AggieDave 6 #26 March 14, 2005 QuoteWhat if people gather on a public street in front of the person's house. Just sat there quiet, just to let the offender know he/she is being watched. Why don't you erect a cross in their front yard and burn it as well? That sort of quiet "respect" used to be played out in the south a few years ago. Quote Served his time? Well goody for him. What about the victim? They will serve time for the rest of their lives for what happened to them. I say the offender suffers for as long as the victim of the crime has to suffer. That's called vigilantism, although I might agree with your objections, I don't agree with your percieved actions. If you want change, work to change the laws and the system. Do volunteer work to help out the victims, etc. However, taking serving a further punishment then the one already served by someone is not only illegal it is immoral and unethical. QuoteI believe the offender was moved from a place that didn't charge for room or board. I say let them stay there. Oh, you mean a half-way-house. A setup to help people trying to reform to get on their feet and start up a normal and law abiding life? Honestly Mary I'm very surprised by your comments. What you're suggesting is not only immoral and unethical but it is also illegal. It is straight discrimination and profiling someone that who may be trying to get back on track in their life. Needless to say I'm shocked and disappointed by your comments.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #27 March 14, 2005 In response to Wendy defending Phree's post: I wasn't picketing. I haven't done anything to the person in question other than make sure my kids are protected from him at all times. Interesting that Phree feels the need to take that side of this discussion though. I'll just leave that opinion as 'interesting'. I know someone has to stand up for 'their rights' as they have served time, but tell me how much THESE people deserve: Offense Child Molestation Attempted Child Molestation Assault with Sexual Motivation 3rd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Sexual Assault Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Attempted Rape 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Child Molestation 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Child Molestation Rape 2nd degree Sexually Motivated Felony Rape 3rd degree Rape Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Attempted Rape 3rd degree Indecent Liberties Rape 2nd degree Rape 2nd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape 1st degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Indecent Liberties Rape 3rd degree Rape 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Statutory Rape 2nd degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Indecent Liberties Rape of a Child 2nd degree Statutory Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Sexual Assault Rape of a Child 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Voyeurism Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Attempted Rape 2nd degree Rape 1st degree Indecent Liberties Rape 1st degree Sexually Motivated Felony Child Molestation 1st degree Unlawful Imprisonment Child Molestation 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Indecent Liberties Child Molestation 1st degree Unlawful Imprisonment Rape Rape 3rd degree Rape 2nd degree Rape 2nd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 2nd degree Sexual Assault Child Molestation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation Attempted Rape 2nd degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Indecent Liberties Statutory Rape 1st degree Attempted Rape 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Attempted Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation Rape 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation 3rd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape of a Child 2nd degree Statutory Rape 1st degree Indecent Liberties Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Voyeurism Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Rape 2nd degree Rape Child Molestation 1st degree Indecent Liberties Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 3rd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Indecent Liberties Rape 1st degree Sexual Assault Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Attempted Rape 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Indecent Liberties Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 3rd degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 3rd degree Incest 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 2nd degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation Rape of a Child 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Indecent Liberties Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Rape 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation Child Molestation Sexual Assault Child Molestation 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Indecent Liberties Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Unlawful Imprisonment Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Statutory Rape 3rd degree Voyeurism Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Sexually Motivated Felony Rape 3rd degree Indecent Liberties Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Attempted Rape 3rd degree Rape 3rd degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 1st degree Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Sexual Assault Indecent Liberties Sexual Assault Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Indecent Liberties Rape of a Child 1st degree Incest 2nd degree Rape 3rd degree Indecent Liberties Assault with Sexual Motivation 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Sexual Assault Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Sexual Assault Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Child Molestation Rape of a Child Sexual Assault Rape of a Child Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Indecent Exposure Oral Copulation Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Attempted Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 1st degree Rape Rape 3rd degree Incest 1st degree Indecent Liberties Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Child Molestation 3rd degree Rape 3rd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Rape of a Child Sexual Battery Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Statutory Rape 2nd degree Rape 2nd degree Indecent Liberties Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Statutory Rape 1st degree Child Molestation 1st degree Indecent Liberties Rape 3rd degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Child Molestation Child Molestation 1st degree Assault with Sexual Motivation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child Rape Child Molestation Child Molestation 3rd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 2nd degree Rape 3rd degree Child Molestation 3rd degree Child Molestation 2nd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 2nd degree Attempted Child Molestation 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 1st degree Communicating with a Minor for Immoral Purposes Rape 3rd degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape of a Child 3rd degree Sexually Motivated Felony Statutory Rape 2nd degree Child Molestation 3rd degree Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Rape Child Molestation 2nd degree Rape 1st degree Rape 3rd degree Rape 1st degree Rape of a Child 1st degree Child Molestation Rape 3rd degree These are supposedly TRANSIENT offenders in my county; no logged address. The level 3 guy must have moved out, the website doesn't show him on there anymore, just 3 level 2's within a 2 mile radius. To Phreezone: QuoteQuoteNext time some one gets a DUI go picket out in front of their house since they are probally more dangerous then a lot of the people with sex crimes convictions. I disagree. See above list.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #28 March 14, 2005 QuoteRANGER sticker in window indicates private ownership of firearms REMEMBER 2 in the chest ,, 1 in the head maintain cover and then call for help HOOAH My hubby taught me what to do in case of a break-in. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #29 March 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteRANGER sticker in window indicates private ownership of firearms REMEMBER 2 in the chest ,, 1 in the head maintain cover and then call for help HOOAH My hubby taught me what to do in case of a break-in. \ And if he gets away - you can drag him back in - I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #30 March 14, 2005 QuoteI know someone has to stand up for 'their rights' as they have served time, but tell me how much THESE people deserve: Their crimes sicken me and really honest to god piss me off. However, I'm not going to break the law and take punishment in my own hands and go out and do things like the KKK used to do to minorities in the south. Intimedation, threats, etc. All in all I view that as being nearly as bad as the criminal who served his/her time and is now trying to make their way in the world again.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #31 March 14, 2005 What does "indecent liberties" mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #32 March 14, 2005 QuoteWhat does "indecent liberties" mean? I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #33 March 14, 2005 Are you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #34 March 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteI know someone has to stand up for 'their rights' as they have served time, but tell me how much THESE people deserve: Their crimes sicken me and really honest to god piss me off. However, I'm not going to break the law and take punishment in my own hands and go out and do things like the KKK used to do to minorities in the south. Intimedation, threats, etc. All in all I view that as being nearly as bad as the criminal who served his/her time and is now trying to make their way in the world again. A TEXAN that doesn't believe in vigilantism? No I won't do anything against the law, Dave. (UNLESS the fucker even bats an eye at my child.) I can understand your point of not breaking the law here, but let me know if your perspective changes once you and Morgan welcome a beautiful baby to your home and a level 3 f*ckstick moves in next door. Tell me how safe you will feel leaving Morgan and your new son/daughter alone in the house. <--Not saying that it would cause you to break the law, it just is infuriating that we must suffer their freedoms.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #35 March 14, 2005 QuoteHonestly Mary I'm very surprised by your comments. What you're suggesting is not only immoral and unethical but it is also illegal. It is straight discrimination and profiling someone that who may be trying to get back on track in their life. Needless to say I'm shocked and disappointed by your comments. So what! What they did to their victim was also immoral and unethical, not to mention illegal. Maybe once you have children your views might change on this. Do the victims get a second chance? QuoteWhy don't you erect a cross in their front yard and burn it as well? That sort of quiet "respect" used to be played out in the south a few years ago. I didn't say a thing about a cross. I'm just thinking a few people, sitting on the curb in lawnchairs reading their newspaper. To compare what the KKK did to a sex offender is way off base IMO. QuoteIf you want change, work to change the laws and the system. Do volunteer work to help out the victims, etc. Funny you should mention that. I do volunteer my time working with victims. Do you know what it's like to get a phone call in the middle of the night from a woman that is scared to death because she is having flashbacks to when she was rapped? Nope, didn't think so. They suffer the rest of their lives. QuoteOh, you mean a half-way-house. A setup to help people trying to reform to get on their feet and start up a normal and law abiding life? Nope, I mean the jail they came from before going to a half-way house.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #36 March 14, 2005 QuoteAre you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? You are so way off base with that. You are implying that Mar has committed a sex crime or driven drunk. Enter the conversation with something of value, for Pete's sake...post whore somewhere else. Geez. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #37 March 14, 2005 QuoteAre you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? Yes, I have never committed any sex crime nor driven while drunk.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #38 March 14, 2005 No that's not what I'm implying. What mary is saying is harrasment plain and simple. How would you feel if people harrased you and made a public spectacle about the skeletons in your closet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #39 March 14, 2005 I'm only talking about harrasment of sex offenders right now. If you want to talk about other matters, start another thread.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #40 March 14, 2005 I'm glad to hear that. The american legal system is set up the way it is, because we make it that way. The great thing about our society, is that we can change things. So if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #41 March 14, 2005 QuoteSo if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Please see my reply to Dave. I do and have worked to change the laws. In the mean time I will stand outside the person's house.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #42 March 14, 2005 >I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse. That's what I was guessing. Which means that some of the people on that list might be 17 year olds who fooled around with a girl who said she was 16 but was really 14. And, to me, that's very different than a felony rape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #43 March 14, 2005 Ever had sex in a public place? If so you've committed a sex crime. Ever flashed someone? Thats indecent exposure and can brand you as a sex crime criminal. I think sex crimes are some of the lowest forms of crimes that can be committed... but to treat someone else that is trying to straighten their life out so poorly is very low also. Large numbers of people labeled sexual criminals can never have a normal life again because the neighborhoods that they move into turn against them and run them out. They are always moving and usually are unable to hold a steady job because no employer wants to be associated with someone that the public treats lower then pond scum. Life does not go back to normal for the victim or the criminal. In Columbus in 2003 there were 605 rapes and sexual based crimes. There were 463 Alcohol-related traffic deaths and 1428 Alcohol-related traffic crashes over the same time. http://www.madd.org/chapter/0,1073,3945_3917,00.htmlYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #44 March 14, 2005 QuoteI'm glad to hear that. The american legal system is set up the way it is, because we make it that way. The great thing about our society, is that we can change things. So if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Perhaps that is what she is doing - trying for change - there is more than one way to begin to change laws and legislation. Personally, I think sex offences are treated at least half as strict as they should be. I would LOVE to see offenders serve 100% of their time. You wouldn't even have to raise the sentancing parameters - just enforce in full the ones we have. So here is the question to you - Are you a parent? Because - As a parent, having to do searches and investigations and research to see what kind of monsters are moving in next door to me is an infringement on MY rights. I didn't fuck this guys preferances up! Why should I have to take special measures to protect my children because he decided that what he wants is more important than what the law, decency, and Morality says is wrong. Why should I have to go out of my way because of him? Because he "Served His Time"? and is "TRYING" to reform? Why take that chance?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #45 March 14, 2005 QuoteEver had sex in a public place? If so you've committed a sex crime. Ever flashed someone? Thats indecent exposure and can brand you as a sex crime criminal. Nope, never had sex in a public place. As for flashing, I admit, I've done that, but it wasn't toward a child. I'm waiting for those two guys that I flashed to press charges Eric, are you telling me that you would be okay with a sex offender living near you? QuoteIn Columbus in 2003 there were 605 rapes and sexual based crimes. There were 463 Alcohol-related traffic deaths and 1428 Alcohol-related traffic crashes over the same time. I guess I didn't make myself clear, I would sit outside of a persons house that had a DUI also. IMO they should never be allowed to drive again.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #46 March 14, 2005 You should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #47 March 14, 2005 QuoteYou should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders. Really. I would love to see hard DATA on that. That way I can just ignore the fact that at any moment the guy that just got out of jail for molestation can move in next door and I can feel safer for it..I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #48 March 14, 2005 QuoteYou should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders. Eric, you are a well educated person, and I respect most of what you say with different subjects. Can you point me in the direction that will back up your statement?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #49 March 14, 2005 Quote>I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse. That's what I was guessing. Which means that some of the people on that list might be 17 year olds who fooled around with a girl who said she was 16 but was really 14. And, to me, that's very different than a felony rape. Bill, had to be over 18...not a 17 with a 16, etc. -In that case, yes I would agree, not the 'sex offender' that we are discussing here. However, even in the case of a 18 y.o. and a 16 y.o., if it was forcible rape, they still should pay the penalty for that. Underage teenagers both intending to do what they were doing but ending up with a 'statutory' violation is NOT common, at least around here...that charge is usually due to forced encounters. And many more are never reported. The people that I know of that had forced encounters at young ages never reported them. <--I am not defending that inaction in any way, just stating the fact.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #50 March 14, 2005 QuoteEric, are you telling me that you would be okay with a sex offender living near you? I never looked it up but I just did and I've got 6 living with in 1 mile of my house. I punched in a few other local addresses and past residences of mine and it looks like there are more then 15 living with in 4 or 5 miles of here. In this same area are 4-5 day care centers, 3 elementry schools, 2 high schools, 3 middle schools and quite a few churches and private schools. One elementry school is less then 100 yards away. I really don't care. When I have kids they will be raised the same as if there were no non-registered offeners in the area. I'll raise my kids to treat everyone as a potential criminal. It does'nt bother me at all. 2 of the offenders are under the age of 25 with 5 years time served each for sex with a minor. One of the court cases shows a 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend so they arrested him by the time it went to court he was 20 and she was still 17 so they went ahead with the case.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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ACMESkydiver 0 #28 March 14, 2005 QuoteRANGER sticker in window indicates private ownership of firearms REMEMBER 2 in the chest ,, 1 in the head maintain cover and then call for help HOOAH My hubby taught me what to do in case of a break-in. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #29 March 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteRANGER sticker in window indicates private ownership of firearms REMEMBER 2 in the chest ,, 1 in the head maintain cover and then call for help HOOAH My hubby taught me what to do in case of a break-in. \ And if he gets away - you can drag him back in - I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #30 March 14, 2005 QuoteI know someone has to stand up for 'their rights' as they have served time, but tell me how much THESE people deserve: Their crimes sicken me and really honest to god piss me off. However, I'm not going to break the law and take punishment in my own hands and go out and do things like the KKK used to do to minorities in the south. Intimedation, threats, etc. All in all I view that as being nearly as bad as the criminal who served his/her time and is now trying to make their way in the world again.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #31 March 14, 2005 What does "indecent liberties" mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #32 March 14, 2005 QuoteWhat does "indecent liberties" mean? I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #33 March 14, 2005 Are you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #34 March 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteI know someone has to stand up for 'their rights' as they have served time, but tell me how much THESE people deserve: Their crimes sicken me and really honest to god piss me off. However, I'm not going to break the law and take punishment in my own hands and go out and do things like the KKK used to do to minorities in the south. Intimedation, threats, etc. All in all I view that as being nearly as bad as the criminal who served his/her time and is now trying to make their way in the world again. A TEXAN that doesn't believe in vigilantism? No I won't do anything against the law, Dave. (UNLESS the fucker even bats an eye at my child.) I can understand your point of not breaking the law here, but let me know if your perspective changes once you and Morgan welcome a beautiful baby to your home and a level 3 f*ckstick moves in next door. Tell me how safe you will feel leaving Morgan and your new son/daughter alone in the house. <--Not saying that it would cause you to break the law, it just is infuriating that we must suffer their freedoms.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #35 March 14, 2005 QuoteHonestly Mary I'm very surprised by your comments. What you're suggesting is not only immoral and unethical but it is also illegal. It is straight discrimination and profiling someone that who may be trying to get back on track in their life. Needless to say I'm shocked and disappointed by your comments. So what! What they did to their victim was also immoral and unethical, not to mention illegal. Maybe once you have children your views might change on this. Do the victims get a second chance? QuoteWhy don't you erect a cross in their front yard and burn it as well? That sort of quiet "respect" used to be played out in the south a few years ago. I didn't say a thing about a cross. I'm just thinking a few people, sitting on the curb in lawnchairs reading their newspaper. To compare what the KKK did to a sex offender is way off base IMO. QuoteIf you want change, work to change the laws and the system. Do volunteer work to help out the victims, etc. Funny you should mention that. I do volunteer my time working with victims. Do you know what it's like to get a phone call in the middle of the night from a woman that is scared to death because she is having flashbacks to when she was rapped? Nope, didn't think so. They suffer the rest of their lives. QuoteOh, you mean a half-way-house. A setup to help people trying to reform to get on their feet and start up a normal and law abiding life? Nope, I mean the jail they came from before going to a half-way house.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #36 March 14, 2005 QuoteAre you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? You are so way off base with that. You are implying that Mar has committed a sex crime or driven drunk. Enter the conversation with something of value, for Pete's sake...post whore somewhere else. Geez. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #37 March 14, 2005 QuoteAre you so innocent that you can cast the first stone? Yes, I have never committed any sex crime nor driven while drunk.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #38 March 14, 2005 No that's not what I'm implying. What mary is saying is harrasment plain and simple. How would you feel if people harrased you and made a public spectacle about the skeletons in your closet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #39 March 14, 2005 I'm only talking about harrasment of sex offenders right now. If you want to talk about other matters, start another thread.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #40 March 14, 2005 I'm glad to hear that. The american legal system is set up the way it is, because we make it that way. The great thing about our society, is that we can change things. So if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #41 March 14, 2005 QuoteSo if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Please see my reply to Dave. I do and have worked to change the laws. In the mean time I will stand outside the person's house.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #42 March 14, 2005 >I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse. That's what I was guessing. Which means that some of the people on that list might be 17 year olds who fooled around with a girl who said she was 16 but was really 14. And, to me, that's very different than a felony rape. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #43 March 14, 2005 Ever had sex in a public place? If so you've committed a sex crime. Ever flashed someone? Thats indecent exposure and can brand you as a sex crime criminal. I think sex crimes are some of the lowest forms of crimes that can be committed... but to treat someone else that is trying to straighten their life out so poorly is very low also. Large numbers of people labeled sexual criminals can never have a normal life again because the neighborhoods that they move into turn against them and run them out. They are always moving and usually are unable to hold a steady job because no employer wants to be associated with someone that the public treats lower then pond scum. Life does not go back to normal for the victim or the criminal. In Columbus in 2003 there were 605 rapes and sexual based crimes. There were 463 Alcohol-related traffic deaths and 1428 Alcohol-related traffic crashes over the same time. http://www.madd.org/chapter/0,1073,3945_3917,00.htmlYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #44 March 14, 2005 QuoteI'm glad to hear that. The american legal system is set up the way it is, because we make it that way. The great thing about our society, is that we can change things. So if you want to change the punishments for sex laws then take a stance on it and talk to your senators. Harrasing some dude because he broke a law in the past is no way to go about it. Perhaps that is what she is doing - trying for change - there is more than one way to begin to change laws and legislation. Personally, I think sex offences are treated at least half as strict as they should be. I would LOVE to see offenders serve 100% of their time. You wouldn't even have to raise the sentancing parameters - just enforce in full the ones we have. So here is the question to you - Are you a parent? Because - As a parent, having to do searches and investigations and research to see what kind of monsters are moving in next door to me is an infringement on MY rights. I didn't fuck this guys preferances up! Why should I have to take special measures to protect my children because he decided that what he wants is more important than what the law, decency, and Morality says is wrong. Why should I have to go out of my way because of him? Because he "Served His Time"? and is "TRYING" to reform? Why take that chance?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #45 March 14, 2005 QuoteEver had sex in a public place? If so you've committed a sex crime. Ever flashed someone? Thats indecent exposure and can brand you as a sex crime criminal. Nope, never had sex in a public place. As for flashing, I admit, I've done that, but it wasn't toward a child. I'm waiting for those two guys that I flashed to press charges Eric, are you telling me that you would be okay with a sex offender living near you? QuoteIn Columbus in 2003 there were 605 rapes and sexual based crimes. There were 463 Alcohol-related traffic deaths and 1428 Alcohol-related traffic crashes over the same time. I guess I didn't make myself clear, I would sit outside of a persons house that had a DUI also. IMO they should never be allowed to drive again.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #46 March 14, 2005 You should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #47 March 14, 2005 QuoteYou should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders. Really. I would love to see hard DATA on that. That way I can just ignore the fact that at any moment the guy that just got out of jail for molestation can move in next door and I can feel safer for it..I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #48 March 14, 2005 QuoteYou should be protecting your child not only from the known offenders but from the unknown ones as well. The numbers of repeat offenders are microscopic compared to the numbers of first time sex offenders. Eric, you are a well educated person, and I respect most of what you say with different subjects. Can you point me in the direction that will back up your statement?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #49 March 14, 2005 Quote>I'm not 100% sure, Billvon, but I was thinking it was exposure/touching w/o intercourse. That's what I was guessing. Which means that some of the people on that list might be 17 year olds who fooled around with a girl who said she was 16 but was really 14. And, to me, that's very different than a felony rape. Bill, had to be over 18...not a 17 with a 16, etc. -In that case, yes I would agree, not the 'sex offender' that we are discussing here. However, even in the case of a 18 y.o. and a 16 y.o., if it was forcible rape, they still should pay the penalty for that. Underage teenagers both intending to do what they were doing but ending up with a 'statutory' violation is NOT common, at least around here...that charge is usually due to forced encounters. And many more are never reported. The people that I know of that had forced encounters at young ages never reported them. <--I am not defending that inaction in any way, just stating the fact.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #50 March 14, 2005 QuoteEric, are you telling me that you would be okay with a sex offender living near you? I never looked it up but I just did and I've got 6 living with in 1 mile of my house. I punched in a few other local addresses and past residences of mine and it looks like there are more then 15 living with in 4 or 5 miles of here. In this same area are 4-5 day care centers, 3 elementry schools, 2 high schools, 3 middle schools and quite a few churches and private schools. One elementry school is less then 100 yards away. I really don't care. When I have kids they will be raised the same as if there were no non-registered offeners in the area. I'll raise my kids to treat everyone as a potential criminal. It does'nt bother me at all. 2 of the offenders are under the age of 25 with 5 years time served each for sex with a minor. One of the court cases shows a 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend so they arrested him by the time it went to court he was 20 and she was still 17 so they went ahead with the case.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
