BillyVance 35 #1 April 17, 2005 1. I can't hear you, but I probably don't want to either. 2. My communication is sound-proof. 3. I can communicate across a crowded stadium or through windows. 4. I can communicate under water. 5. My sign language can be very beautiful, even when I'm saying "you fucking shithead!" 6. I'm able to avoid boring lectures and speeches. 7. I don't have to hear all the bullshit people say. 8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. 9. I'm able to sit up front in a theater for the interpreter. 10. Many people want to learn my language, and the first words they want to know are the cuss words! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbc 0 #2 April 17, 2005 very good, i am deaf in my right ear.... it sucks when people are joking with me saying "WHAT?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #3 April 17, 2005 Alan Thompson is steadily teaching everyone at out DZ how to sign... It's really cool, though he can't have a private conversation with someone anymore since so much of us are getting better at understanding what he's saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #4 April 17, 2005 Quote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #5 April 17, 2005 QuoteQuote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. I can also say "fuck you" with one finger... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RkyMtnHigh 0 #6 April 18, 2005 But you're not exempt to smelling the FARTS!! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orchid 0 #7 April 18, 2005 Quote7. I don't have to hear all the bullshit people say. Amen."Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #8 April 18, 2005 number 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 April 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. I can also say "fuck you" with one finger... BWAHAHAHAHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #10 April 18, 2005 I forgot a few good reasons it's great to be deaf... 11. I don't wince or have to cover my ears in the plane on take-off, or when the Casa's running its engines on the tarmac. 12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. And yes, I don't have to hear the stupid jokes. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #11 April 18, 2005 Quotenumber 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... Got any lettuce? That duck joke? Dude, that one rocks! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #12 April 18, 2005 sometimes wish i was blind so i don't have to see the bullshit your talking with, with your deaf buddies..hehehehehe how ya doing nobbyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #13 April 18, 2005 I once had a cat that was deaf. She was like every other cat I've ever had-she never listened to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #14 April 18, 2005 Quote12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. I can do that too When I was doing the POP's Texas State record a few years back, my slot was on the same line as David Armstrong and Charl de Villiers. ( John Woo wasn't good enough to be with us.) It was nice to be able to chat with them in the aircraft and no one knew what we were talking about. http://www.deafskydivers.org/Gallery/RecJumps/TX62.htmMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites deaffreeflyer 0 #15 April 19, 2005 Quote though he can't have a private conversation with someone anymore since so much of us are getting better at understanding what he's saying All he have to do is... signing really FAST! You won't understand him for sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #16 April 19, 2005 Hey i have a question for you. How come sign language is not the same in all countries. My uncle speaks sign and was saying its not the same in other countries. I thought that was strangehttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites huka551 0 #17 April 19, 2005 No language is universal, why would sign be any different? Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #18 April 19, 2005 It is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country.http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #19 April 19, 2005 So Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may heyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #20 April 19, 2005 QuoteSo Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may hey If I am able to come, I'll teach you how to sign "ya fat bastard!" "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #21 April 19, 2005 QuoteIt is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country. Language is not the same in most countries. Do they speak French in Spain? Sign Language is a mode of communication that has to include more then anyone would need to communicate with when Scuba Diving. When was the last time you were Suba Diving and needed to know how to make layers on a CAD graphic job? ASL (American Sign Language) was devloped from a French man by the name of Clerc and an American by the name of Gallaudet. Gallaudet, became interested in educating deaf children and wanting to learn all that he could about teaching methods, so he undertook a trip to Europe where he met and convinced Clerc to come to American. On the voyage from France to America, Clerc taught Gallaudet the signed language that was used at the Paris school and Gallaudet taught Clerc English. Together, they adapted this signed language to meet what they perceived to be the needs of deaf children in America. Hence the reason ASL uses different sentence structor of spoken English. SEE (Signing Exact English) Just as the name states, it is a form of communication/instruction in which signs are used in exact english word order, with some additional signs representing conventions such as the "ing" word ending. Over the years, SEE was combined with ASL to produce a separate communication form known as Pidgin Signed English (or PSE). I hope that gives you some insight as to why Sign Language is not universal and should not be compared to hand signals used to Suba Diving.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites huka551 0 #22 April 19, 2005 Don't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #23 April 19, 2005 QuoteDon't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Not used much.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. 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happythoughts 0 #4 April 17, 2005 Quote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #5 April 17, 2005 QuoteQuote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. I can also say "fuck you" with one finger... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #6 April 18, 2005 But you're not exempt to smelling the FARTS!! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #7 April 18, 2005 Quote7. I don't have to hear all the bullshit people say. Amen."Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #8 April 18, 2005 number 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 April 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. I can also say "fuck you" with one finger... BWAHAHAHAHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #10 April 18, 2005 I forgot a few good reasons it's great to be deaf... 11. I don't wince or have to cover my ears in the plane on take-off, or when the Casa's running its engines on the tarmac. 12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. And yes, I don't have to hear the stupid jokes. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #11 April 18, 2005 Quotenumber 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... Got any lettuce? That duck joke? Dude, that one rocks! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #12 April 18, 2005 sometimes wish i was blind so i don't have to see the bullshit your talking with, with your deaf buddies..hehehehehe how ya doing nobbyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #13 April 18, 2005 I once had a cat that was deaf. She was like every other cat I've ever had-she never listened to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #14 April 18, 2005 Quote12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. I can do that too When I was doing the POP's Texas State record a few years back, my slot was on the same line as David Armstrong and Charl de Villiers. ( John Woo wasn't good enough to be with us.) It was nice to be able to chat with them in the aircraft and no one knew what we were talking about. http://www.deafskydivers.org/Gallery/RecJumps/TX62.htmMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites deaffreeflyer 0 #15 April 19, 2005 Quote though he can't have a private conversation with someone anymore since so much of us are getting better at understanding what he's saying All he have to do is... signing really FAST! You won't understand him for sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #16 April 19, 2005 Hey i have a question for you. How come sign language is not the same in all countries. My uncle speaks sign and was saying its not the same in other countries. I thought that was strangehttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites huka551 0 #17 April 19, 2005 No language is universal, why would sign be any different? Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #18 April 19, 2005 It is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country.http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #19 April 19, 2005 So Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may heyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #20 April 19, 2005 QuoteSo Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may hey If I am able to come, I'll teach you how to sign "ya fat bastard!" "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #21 April 19, 2005 QuoteIt is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country. Language is not the same in most countries. Do they speak French in Spain? Sign Language is a mode of communication that has to include more then anyone would need to communicate with when Scuba Diving. When was the last time you were Suba Diving and needed to know how to make layers on a CAD graphic job? ASL (American Sign Language) was devloped from a French man by the name of Clerc and an American by the name of Gallaudet. Gallaudet, became interested in educating deaf children and wanting to learn all that he could about teaching methods, so he undertook a trip to Europe where he met and convinced Clerc to come to American. On the voyage from France to America, Clerc taught Gallaudet the signed language that was used at the Paris school and Gallaudet taught Clerc English. Together, they adapted this signed language to meet what they perceived to be the needs of deaf children in America. Hence the reason ASL uses different sentence structor of spoken English. SEE (Signing Exact English) Just as the name states, it is a form of communication/instruction in which signs are used in exact english word order, with some additional signs representing conventions such as the "ing" word ending. Over the years, SEE was combined with ASL to produce a separate communication form known as Pidgin Signed English (or PSE). I hope that gives you some insight as to why Sign Language is not universal and should not be compared to hand signals used to Suba Diving.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites huka551 0 #22 April 19, 2005 Don't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #23 April 19, 2005 QuoteDon't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Not used much.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #24 April 19, 2005 QuoteI can't hear the boos... name the quote-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #25 April 19, 2005 QuoteDon't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Ah, yes, the evil Rochester School for the Deaf... back in the old days, actually, I don't recall exactly when they stopped, but students were forced to fingerspell every word while on campus, at least. If they got caught signing words, they got their hands whacked with a ruler, hard... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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wingnut 0 #8 April 18, 2005 number 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 April 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote8. I can sign "I love you" with just one hand. I can also say "fuck you" with one finger... BWAHAHAHAHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #10 April 18, 2005 I forgot a few good reasons it's great to be deaf... 11. I don't wince or have to cover my ears in the plane on take-off, or when the Casa's running its engines on the tarmac. 12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. And yes, I don't have to hear the stupid jokes. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #11 April 18, 2005 Quotenumber 11...... you don't have to actually hear me tell the duck joke... Got any lettuce? That duck joke? Dude, that one rocks! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #12 April 18, 2005 sometimes wish i was blind so i don't have to see the bullshit your talking with, with your deaf buddies..hehehehehe how ya doing nobbyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #13 April 18, 2005 I once had a cat that was deaf. She was like every other cat I've ever had-she never listened to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #14 April 18, 2005 Quote12. I can talk across the aisle or from one end to the other end in an Otter, Casa or DC-3, and not have to yell. 13. I can talk in freefall too. I can do that too When I was doing the POP's Texas State record a few years back, my slot was on the same line as David Armstrong and Charl de Villiers. ( John Woo wasn't good enough to be with us.) It was nice to be able to chat with them in the aircraft and no one knew what we were talking about. http://www.deafskydivers.org/Gallery/RecJumps/TX62.htmMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #15 April 19, 2005 Quote though he can't have a private conversation with someone anymore since so much of us are getting better at understanding what he's saying All he have to do is... signing really FAST! You won't understand him for sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #16 April 19, 2005 Hey i have a question for you. How come sign language is not the same in all countries. My uncle speaks sign and was saying its not the same in other countries. I thought that was strangehttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huka551 0 #17 April 19, 2005 No language is universal, why would sign be any different? Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #18 April 19, 2005 It is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country.http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #19 April 19, 2005 So Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may heyhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #20 April 19, 2005 QuoteSo Billy i'll be seeing you at the farm 14th may hey If I am able to come, I'll teach you how to sign "ya fat bastard!" "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #21 April 19, 2005 QuoteIt is the same in most countries. There's just a few that are different. In Scuba the hand signals are the same no matter what country. Language is not the same in most countries. Do they speak French in Spain? Sign Language is a mode of communication that has to include more then anyone would need to communicate with when Scuba Diving. When was the last time you were Suba Diving and needed to know how to make layers on a CAD graphic job? ASL (American Sign Language) was devloped from a French man by the name of Clerc and an American by the name of Gallaudet. Gallaudet, became interested in educating deaf children and wanting to learn all that he could about teaching methods, so he undertook a trip to Europe where he met and convinced Clerc to come to American. On the voyage from France to America, Clerc taught Gallaudet the signed language that was used at the Paris school and Gallaudet taught Clerc English. Together, they adapted this signed language to meet what they perceived to be the needs of deaf children in America. Hence the reason ASL uses different sentence structor of spoken English. SEE (Signing Exact English) Just as the name states, it is a form of communication/instruction in which signs are used in exact english word order, with some additional signs representing conventions such as the "ing" word ending. Over the years, SEE was combined with ASL to produce a separate communication form known as Pidgin Signed English (or PSE). I hope that gives you some insight as to why Sign Language is not universal and should not be compared to hand signals used to Suba Diving.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huka551 0 #22 April 19, 2005 Don't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Muff Brother 3723 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #23 April 19, 2005 QuoteDon't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Not used much.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #24 April 19, 2005 QuoteI can't hear the boos... name the quote-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #25 April 19, 2005 QuoteDon't forget the less then popular Rochester method...every word fingerspelled Ah, yes, the evil Rochester School for the Deaf... back in the old days, actually, I don't recall exactly when they stopped, but students were forced to fingerspell every word while on campus, at least. If they got caught signing words, they got their hands whacked with a ruler, hard... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
