Trained on a 9 cell, want to buy a 7 cell...

[Isfrael 0]

Hi all, I'm fresh off student status and now I'm looking around for my own gear. I was trained on a 9 cell Navagator 280 by Performance Designs, and as I search for a main I have found a good deal for a 7 cell Fury 220 by Flight Concepts. I know that I can not make a jump from 280 to 220 right away. I have begun to make jumps on a 260 and once I get comfortable with a 260 will move on to a 240 and so on... I only weigh around 185 pounds, so with gear and everything, I will be weight loaded at a little bit under a 1:1 on a 220. I may be jumping the gun a bit and everyone be assured, I will not push myself to get to that 220 before I am ready. What I am really curious about is what would I have to be worried/aware of if I moved from a 9 cell Nav, to a 7 cell Fury?

Also, I tried looking up a Fury in the gear section and I couldn't find it there. Can anyone give me some incite on if this is even a good canopy, or if it is right for a beginner?

[airtwardo 7]

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=Fury%20220&sb=score&mh=25

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[martlet 0]

You really should talk to your instructors. They are the people who know your skill level.

I'm about 210 pounds. I started on a 280, worked down to a 240 after about 25 jumps. I just ordered a Sabre 2 210. Last week I jumped a 7 cell 210 and liked it. I prefer the Sabre 2, though.

Again, talk to your instructors.

[phoenixlpr 0]

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Trained on a 9 cell, want to buy a 7 cell...

What if you have to use your reserve? That's a 7 cell too....

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I search for a main I have found a good deal for a 7 cell Fury 220 by Flight Concepts

How good is that? Is that for free? I would not buy any full F1-11 canopy as an all around main. Any canopy even over 1000 jumps can fly better than an F1-11 like your pick.

Any square, semi-elliptical ZP or hybrid main canopy can be right for you.

[councilman24 37]

No, a Fury at your weight is not an appropriate investment. While 0-3 cfm fabric canopys ("F-111") are fine parachutes you will find it competely different from the canopy you trained on, old design that is no longer common as a primary sport main and not a good investment. Most of these have been retired as primary mains. I have canopies like this for historical fun but not for routine use.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
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[aresye 0]

I personally recommend the Spectre if you're looking for a good 7-cell. I jump a Spectre 190 loaded about 1.1, and I love flying it around every time!

Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours.

[DJL 235]

Do you say you want to buy a 7 cell because there's something about a 7 cell you would like or is it just because this Fury came up for sale? Anyway, pass on the Fury unless you need a car cover. Talk to the jumpers at your DZ about what they got for their first canopy and why they liked it/didn't like it.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[BIGUN 1,486]

Terry,

Refresh my memory here... was it the Fury that had a tendency to side-slide due to a lack of stabilizers? I'm out of town and not near my manuals.

Keith

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

I concur with the others on here that question why you would buy a Fury. The Fury was designed more than 25 years ago when wing loading norms were much different than they were today. A one to one loading is a good max for you as a novice. Back then it was the max for all but the reckless. Buy something else.

[councilman24 37]

Nope, fury was probably one of the more popular canopies. I was never smart enough to buy one.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[half-a-greek 0]

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I concur with the others on here that question why you would buy a Fury. The Fury was designed more than 25 years ago when wing loading norms were much different than they were today. A one to one loading is a good max for you as a novice. Back then it was the max for all but the reckless. Buy something else.

Now I see why I couldn't find it in the gear section. In honesty, the only reason I considered it was because it was a good deal... now I think I'll buy something else, thanks all!

[DJL 235]

What was the asking price, by the way?

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[BIGUN 1,486]

Thank you, sir... That's going to bug me now. Dammit.
I was a Falcon fan

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[councilman24 37]

I'm trying to remember what didn't have stabilizers. May have to hit my main reference. Old paragear catalogs. I don't remember an issue with side sliding.

The Unit?

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi Terry,

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I'm trying to remember what didn't have stabilizers.

At the moment the only ones that I can think of are the original Para-Plane ( who knew about stabs then ) & the Amigo reserves.

I'm sure that there are a few more; anyone?

JerryBaumchen

[half-a-greek 0]

The asking price is 200 dollars for a Fury that was made in 98, with 300 jumps on it.

[indyz 1]

I've seen people spend more for worse, but personally I'd try to scrape up a couple hundred extra dollars and find an older ZP main like a Sabre, Triathlon, Hornet, etc in good condition. It will have more flare power, will be sportier and more fun to fly (but not dangerously so), and will last practically forever as long as you reline it every 500 jumps or so.

[half-a-greek 0]

yeah I agree, I just thought that it might have been a good deal... I see otherwise now lol

[councilman24 37]

Yeah, I knew about the paraplane. Our DZ owner and I relined our older strato clouds and left them off. (Or course some how we screwed up mine, it blew out the brake stows and I had to cut it away. It became my water training canopy. His flew fine. In 1982 Neither one of us knew what we were doing.)

Of course Glide Path/Flight Concepts reserves don't have stabilizers either.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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Of course Glide Path/Flight Concepts reserves don't have stabilizers either.

Well since the Fury is TSOd I guess the answer to the original stabilizer question is yes, some Furies do not have stabilizers.

[councilman24 37]

The fury reserve and the fury main are NOT the same canopy. The mains have stabilizers and PC attachment points. The reserves do not.

Check the Flight concepts website. Both are still made. And they weigh a pound different.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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The fury reserve and the fury main are NOT the same canopy. The mains have stabilizers and PC attachment points. The reserves do not.

Check the Flight concepts website. Both are still made. And they weigh a pound different.

That's why I said some Furies were without them.

[chuckbrown 0]

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The asking price is 200 dollars for a Fury that was made in 98, with 300 jumps on it.

A canopy with 300 jumps for $200? The useful life of a F-111 is about 1,000 jumps, so 700 jumps for $200 isn't bad. And the canopy's are not bad canopies. If I was a novice jumper, I'd buy it. I'm about your weight & my first canopy (in 1995) was a Sharpchuter 245.

[mrbiceps 0]

i would not recommend buying that fury seeing as i want to buy it...