Rstanley0312 1 #1 October 1, 2008 I am getting ready to order my new Vector and have been told over and over that I need to get the Skyhook system. From everything I know about it..... it seems like it is great. How it has been explained to me is that when you cut away the main it acts as the pilot chute for the reserve? If this is correct what happens if there is nothing over your head? If there is a monkey fist or a PC in tow? How would it pull the reserve? I would still pull the other handle but does it mean the skyhook would not get out the reserve like an RSL? Sorry if this is a stupid question..... just trying to understand it before I buy. Thanks RobLife is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #2 October 1, 2008 Ok.... because I am a genius I just did a search on the topic. Ya, I really feel stupid now.... I have everything I need! Blue SkiesLife is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #3 October 1, 2008 http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=85&Itemid=27Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #4 October 2, 2008 QuoteI would still pull the other handle but does it mean the skyhook would not get out the reserve like an RSL? Say what? An RSL does not get your reserve out on ANY direct-to-silver reserve handle pull as you are describing! Please don't tell me you really think your "CONVENTIONAL" RSL either, actually has anything to do with, or rather "gets the reserve out" when you go straight to silver either. Pulling straight-to-silver equipped with EITHER RSL type still, directly pulls the pin from the reserve closing loop, allowing your reserve container to open - releasing your spring-loaded reserve PC. If you read the link provided in one of the posts now above mine, you can see/learn the rigging difference between how the skyhook attaches, and operates.coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #5 October 2, 2008 Quote...I have everything I need! Ya think? Not if you still think ANY RSL has anything to do with "pulling the reserve" in the scenarios you described... Quote what happens if there is nothing over your head? If there is a monkey fist or a PC in tow? How would it pull the reserve? or... QuoteI would still pull the other handle but does it mean the skyhook would not get out the reserve like an RSL? Sorry - I don't mean to sound harsh with this dude, but seriously - please speak directly with a rigger in person at your dropzone, and get some better information of what ANY RSL does (and doesn't do) before you go making your "informed" decision. Blues, -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #6 October 2, 2008 Dude.... I'm talking about pulling the cutaway.... the RSL is connected to the riser which pulls the reserve pin. Probably didn't type it correctly but yes I know how the RSL works.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #7 October 2, 2008 I recommend you to have your Vector equiped with a Skyhook. See the demo from UPT Vector, it is quite convincing. In the case you get a pilot chute in tow, well that kind of malfunction is a total therefore you have nothing to release since it's locked in the container. You just pull your reserve handle. That way the reserve pilot chute will pull your reserve and the Skyhook will disconnect immediately from the RSL(reserve static line). It happened to me (a total mal but not with a PC in tow) a month and half ago and got my reserve inflated fast and soft (see my post on this forum on rigging and equipment about Skyhook stories). In case of pilot chute in tow, well, Skyhook or not, you hope for the best for not having an entanglement between your reserve and the pilot chute in tow. I discussed that with a friend of mine and we came to the conclusion that if you change slightly your body position in order to get faster it seems to me that the pilot chute will catch the air faster and get your reserve deployed with less problem. Just an idea. I would like comments to know what the people would do in case of a pilot chute in tow.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #8 October 2, 2008 QuoteI'm talking about pulling the cutaway.... Okay, so if you have a monkey fist, and can't extract your main PC at all, or a Pilot-chute-in-tow and you pull your cut-away. ...What do you expect your RSL to do for you in either case? "Conventional" or (versus) skyhook?coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #9 October 3, 2008 ummm.... is this a trick question? It won't do anything??? You have to pull the reserve handle..... I think I see the confusion.... what I was getting at was already answered by the link. I was not sure if the reserve still had a PC or if the skyhok some how had some other function to get the reserve out even with a total malfunction. If it is all one system I was wondering if when you pulled your reserve handle it did something different. I know you are just trying to help but trust me I do get all of this.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites