Screw it... I QUIT!

[justaflygirl 0]

just to educate you people who think you know whats going on, you don't... read....

MY FJC was half-assed because I was a jumpers wife, I realize this now, but at the time did I see a problem with it? No, because I didnt know any better. It was done over two nights between 10 & 12 pm. The when I took my written, I was handed the answer sheet, did I think this was wrong, no... b/c I have often (in other situations) taken open book or answer provided tests.

The only part of my AFF that was spot on was the the jumps. the landing by radio was done by the DZO, and never made a lick of sense, never once was I brought in on a "pattern" and had it explained too me. Not until high 30's low 40's when my husband explained a pattern to me, did I understand. Was this my fault no, this should have been properly done in my early training.

About the small reserve, when the rig was first bought I was totally okay leaving it sit until I was ready to jump it, but shortly after I had my A license, my husband told me I was fine to jump it, this was around jump #30. The main at the time was a Sabre 135. Since he was a coach, I assumed it was fine. It had the 126 reserve in it then too.

the gusty weekend that you saftey nazi's are having so much fun ripping my ass to shreds over... lets look at the whole picture for a sec, shall we...

the weekend prior, as soon as I showed up to the DZ, two very respected instructors told me to sit it out b/c of the winds, I did, no questions asked. Also that day they were having a hard time getting any loads up. the weekend in question, as soon as we got there, we were 3 back on the soonest load with any openings, loads were full and AFF students were also going up. the two weekends had entirely different descriptions. I observed the windsock,& I watched the other jumpers before I went up. Unlike the weekend before, nobody even remotely suggested to me that it might not be okay.

One of my goals that I had set for myself has a higher licensed jumper was to always look out for the younger jumpers. (as two people did the first weekend in the story)

So too all you people who just think Im being careless, go F yourself. I take the safety issues that IM AWARE OF very seriously, and I practice and visualize it multiple times before I jump.

Also about the gusty wind post, my question was simply "why is it easier to land with ground winds then not" you people who like to eat ass turned it into a thread about the weekend when you said I shouldnt have jumped. Well when all I wanted was a simple answer to a simple question, and it turned into an ass chewing fest, sure it pissed me off. I just wanted an answer.

I have made some wonderful friends in this sport, and have some great memories, but im done... maybe had I not fallen into the same thing that so many other attractive girls do in this sport ( I dont think I have to explain this) things would be different... and one more note to the saftey nazi's...you can attract more flies with honey than you can vinegar...

my stuff will soon be in the classified...

[AggieDave 6]

Well sorry you have had a rough time, sorry to hear you got banged up and sorry that you're leaving the sport. Although I would suggest not selling your gear yet and getting off of DZ.com, you might find the real world of skydiving a little more fun and has less bullshit. You might also find that in a few months you really really miss jumping.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[jlmiracle 7]

One of my concerns is why you jumped without shoes?

Judy

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[littlestranger 0]

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Not until high 30's low 40's when my husband explained a pattern to me, did I understand. Was this my fault no, this should have been properly done in my early training.

I call bullshit. You're a licensed skydiver, you are responsible for learning everything you need to know to keep yourself alive. Sorry you got hurt, sorry I'm not more sympathetic.

[AggieDave 6]

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you are responsible for learning everything you need to know to keep yourself alive

For anyone else reading this thread and scratching thier head wonder what else they should know, a really good place to start is the USPA's SIM, it has quite a bit of very useful information. Its not just for student jumpers either.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[Paige 0]

Just come fly in the tunnel U have to wear shoes but no pavement.

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[Lindsey 0]

Given your post....the hazard you have been unaware of, what you believe to be substandard student instruction, and your very low jump numbers coupled with the injuries you have already sustained due to problems with canopy control, I have a suggestion:

You could NOT quit the sport and instead listen to what all these people who should be fucking off are trying to tell you....and proceed with safer skydiving!

linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[justaflygirl 0]

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Given your post....the hazard you have been unaware of, what you believe to be substandard student instruction, and your very low jump numbers coupled with the injuries you have already sustained due to problems with canopy control, I have a suggestion:

You could NOT quit the sport and instead listen to what all these people who should be fucking off are trying to tell you....and proceed with safer skydiving!

linz

if they dont say anything how can I listen to them?

[markd_nscr986 0]

Take the chill pill,hang on to your gear.........

Everyone I know has been banged up jumping in high winds..............

Just consider it lesson learned and move forward

and try not to repeat your mistakes ( like me!)

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[airdweller 0]

I think this is a good idea for you. With your attitude, your probably safer on the ground. There are other really cool sports or hobbies in life. Hope you find one that works well for you.

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[The111 1]

In every mishap there are usually multiple parties responsible. The best attitude is to recognize and try to change your OWN part in that responsibility, since that is the only part you have control over. Pointing out all the mistakes others made will not make you safer, nor will it absolve you of your own mistakes.

The only car wreck I ever got in was someone running a red light (that had been red for 10 solid seconds!) and broadsiding me as I followed a constant stream of traffic through a green arrow. You know what my biggest regret is about that day? I didn't look toward the oncoming traffic! I assumed the oncoming traffic would have stopped long ago (most of it did, except for my new collision buddy). No lawyer in America would find me guilty in that collision (and that is a pretty ambitious claim!), the guy who hit me was 110% in the wrong, but the only thing that matters to me was what I did wrong (which I could easily argue, legally, logically, was nothing). I failed to prevent it from happening. I FUCKED UP.

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[JaapSuter 0]

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If you're not living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space!

And if you do live on the edge, you need to be prepared to take the responsibility for your own mistakes.

I don't know nearly enough to comment on your accident, but I do get the sense that you're laying partial blame on factors other than yourself.

Except for some plane incidents and the occasional freefall and canopy collision, skydiving is a sport where accidents are solely our own doing.

Let it be known to everybody reading this; when the day comes I hurt myself or die on a skydive or a base jump, do not hesitate to make fun of me. If I'm stupid enough to hurl myself out of planes or off of shit with just a wad of fabric to save me, surely I deserve somebody pissing on my grave.

Please analyse my accident. Please tell other people that I put myself in that position by my own choice and that it was a stupid thing to do so. Let it be a lesson.

We all have the choice to not skydive. We need to realize that skydiving is first and foremost a sport that requires a survival instinct with a strong focus on safety. Deriving pleasure from the sport is a distant second goal, lightyears behind.

Every time you jump out of the plane, you are dead. Until you do something about it. And if you don't do it right, there is a high probability to get injured.

These are the choices we make, and these are the choices we live by.

[rhino 0]

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my stuff will soon be in the classified...

Yeah right... Sure it will... Sheesh!!! People don't quit skydiving... They just take vacations..

[jumpergirl 0]

Did we not discuss this 30 minutes ago?

You don't know what you don't know! LEARN IT... LEARN FROM IT... be a better, safer, stronger skydiver.
Fuck those who are telling you it's a good idea. I was told the same thing 10 years ago. I decided to learn more, do more, and have more. It worked for me. There is NO reason it can't work for you.

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[justaflygirl 0]

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With your attitude, your probably safer on the ground.

There goes another person, WHO DOESNT know me, comenting on MY ATTITUDE... this cracks me up... call me stupid, but I think I have a right to be pissed off. Jumping out of a plane is not something we are naturally born with the knowledge to save our asses, and unless were told by those who know (just in case you didnt know, its not the new jumpers who know) how the fuck are we supposed to know? If we didnt know it was wrong, it is the responsibilty of other of other jumpers to look out for those of us who are new and dont know as much as the older jumpers do. And if you wanna argue about it being the responsibilty, the it should just be how it is to look out for our fellow jumpers to keep this sport that much safer...

[seejanefall 0]

I agree with the others who've said to hold on to your gear. Let your feet heal and reassess at that point. If you decide to not go up in the air again, it's really up to you. Big hug to you because any way you look at it, the situation sucks. I hope you heal quickly.

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[eeneR 3]

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If you're not living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space!

And if you do live on the edge, you need to be prepared to take the responsibility for your own mistakes.

That statement right there is Key here.....Im sorry you got hurt. But ya know what NO ONE But ourselves are responsible for our safety.

In your post Misty you start blaming everyone else for the fact. You make your own decisions. There are a lot of things that you need to be proactive and ask about, think about and question. NO ONE is going to hold your hand. All said and done no one else is going to be there when you crater. These decisions are yours to make no one elses.

What does this mean? and this goes for everyone. You are soley responsible for learning what you need to be safe, this is not a game this is not a joke. This sport can and will kill you...if you let it or if it so desires. You cannot become complacient and assume you know it all...guess what you dont, none of us do. This sport progresses and grows at such a speed that most cannot keep up.

Im tired of hearing the "im good I know what im doing" "im different then the rest" "Poor me, no one told me" Ya know what it is alll bullshit. It is the same story everytime someone gets hurt.

The truth....people fucked up. Period. Bad decisioins = bad concequences....period.

ok im done venting....

She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway."
eeneR
TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto

[bobsled92 0]

Let your feet heal....
learn from what happened (I learned=it sounds painful & I'll now ALWAYS jump w/ shoes)
Be a safer jumpers and prove others wrong by returning wiser & safer.
I have low numbers and have a lot too learn also.
I will not quit & neither should you.-Grant

p.s.
I quit for 6 years & it only hurt me. I cried tears of joy on my recurrency jump

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[skymama 37]

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maybe had I not fallen into the same thing that so many other attractive girls do in this sport ( I dont think I have to explain this) things would be different...

I'm kinda slow sometimes, please explain this to me. What "thing" did you fall into?

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[Ron 10]

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if they dont say anything how can I listen to them?

You are teling people here to fuck off.

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go F yourself

Most of these people are trying to help you...But telling them to fuck off is not the way to learn.

You have some valid points....However some are lame as hell.

Yes you might have gotten a crappy FJC...But how did it take you 40 jumps to realize you don't know a pattern? I mean you have to land, so it would amke sense that there is a technique to it. If you didn't know it, why didn't you ask?

If you wish to continue the sport I would recomend you do 2 things:

1. Log off of this website. People are always gonna have opinons...Some are going to be good, some are gonna be crap. But people are GONNA given them here. If thats going to upset you...Step away from the computer.

2. Sit in a new real FJC. If you missed some info, how do you know what else you missed? Also find a KNOWLEDGABLE Instructor to talk to and bounce ideas off of...So far it seems that your lack of knowledge has hurt you.

Question: Who told you to jump barefoot? Where did you get the idea?

There are some valid questions you have not answered...While I am sure most can understand jumping barefoot (Or the desire to do it)...Why didn't you flare?

I mean the flare is about as basic as it gets.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[justaflygirl 0]

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maybe had I not fallen into the same thing that so many other attractive girls do in this sport ( I dont think I have to explain this) things would be different...

I'm kinda slow sometimes, please explain this to me. What "thing" did you fall into?

Being an attractive girl , our instruction is often times half-assed. A guy is gonna get better more thorough intruction b/c he is a guy, an attractive girl, maybe not always the case, but flirting often takes the place of a thorough education. I know of SEVERAL girls who have expierenced this, and mine was doubly bad b/c I am attractive and I b/c I was a jumpers wife....

[chaoskitty 0]

Everyone makes mistakes. Not everyone survives them. So far you have, so congratulations. Quit relying on what your husband knows... he cant fly your canopy for you. If *any* of your security comes from the fact that you're married to an experienced skydiver, then ground yourself until you can find your safety zone and skydive THERE.

You shouldnt quit because people are jumping down your throat. You should only quit if you are not willing to take responsiblity for your mistakes and learn from them.
I think you should give yourself another chance.

[TALONSKY 0]

I have a few comments to make on your post. First if you look at any thread here where some one makes a mistake most of the time they are scrutinized a lot (if you are going to post a screw up on this web site you had better be prepared to be a lot of sh*t for it. Which apparently you were not prepared for I am not sure if you live a sheltered life where your never given a lot of sh*t when you screw up or not, anyway you need to get use to it if your going to post it).
Secondly you seem to point blame at most everyone else but you for your mistake. I find it interesting that you would accept help and cheats for things that your life will depend on. The knowledge in the SIM is just not there for reference manual for test it is there to help teach all the correct information (myself I read the SIM cover to cover at least 8 times). If you make a mistake it is your mistake (you knew that you should have not accepted the help with your course but you did accept) it is truly your own fault that you did not know the SIM
Lastly, as far as really windy conditions most all of us set our limits on wind after having a bad experience with them.
Kirk

[Thanatos340 1]

I agree...

You need to walk away...... From the computer.

Fuck what people say. Listen to the ones you know and trust (And Please do listen to them), Ignore the rest.

Go Relax, Prop those sore feet up and chill for a while.

Arguing with nameless, faceless people on the internet is like competing in the special Olympics.. Even if you win, you are still retarded.

Stay off the forums for a day or two because you have already been lectured enough. All that will happen now is that people will keep repeating the same things over and over.

You Live, You Learn (If you don’t , you die).

[funks 1]

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Being an attractive girl , our instruction is often times half-assed. A guy is gonna get better more thorough intruction b/c he is a guy, an attractive girl, maybe not always the case, but flirting often takes the place of a thorough education. I know of SEVERAL girls who have expierenced this, and mine was doubly bad b/c I am attractive and I b/c I was a jumpers wife....

First suggestion is to delete this post before you get half the skydiving population calling bullshit...

secondly, didnt your momma ever tell you that nobody likes a quitter

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