LilZilla 2 #1 June 10, 2005 I've been informed that first term airman have a good say when it comes to PCSing once stationed for a year. If you could choose any base you wanted to go to including over seas, where would you go and why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #2 June 10, 2005 BWAHAHA!!! Who "informed" you of that?! You go where the need is, and you have little or no say. There are ways to work the system, tho. I swapped orders when I was in tech school - it was allowed. I knew guys who extended overseas in order to improve their chances of being stationed where they wanted, but in the end, you're just a body, and you'll go where they send you, period. If you have a highly sought-after specialty, you might, upon the end of your first term, negotiate a bit, but just ask any vets on this board how that works. Go ahead - ask... If you're a commissioned officer, you're in a better position to try to get where you want to go, but then it's a matter of friends and influence, and when it comes to this kind of thing, a 1st term Airman has no friends.... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #3 June 10, 2005 I've been asking around and there's a lot of ppl here who have confirmed this little theory of mine. I've gotta go check it out at the MPF to get the official word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #4 June 10, 2005 ask Prepheckt, he granduated from the Academy a year ago i believe it was.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 June 10, 2005 QuoteI've been informed that first term airman have a good say when it comes to PCSing once stationed for a year BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That is all I really needed that tonight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #6 June 10, 2005 Quote that first term airman have a good say when it comes to PCSing once stationed for a year. rotflmao.... while your at it can you get me a hundred yards of flight line? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #7 June 10, 2005 mark, I don't know when you wer ein but as of late that option isn't so unheard of. if you know which avenue to go and make your request you are pretty sure to get what you want. if you are a 1st termer. same goes for career Amn. there are always options. most peole have no idea about what is available to them so they sit and wait for something to happen. Lilzilla, my AFSC only has limited bases to go to but If i was going over seas I would go to germany or italy (spangdahelem or aviano) if I was staying conus I would stay in vegas or go to utah or pheonix. can't really get into job specifics but those are some places that aren't just nice but my job isn't too backlogged thereMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #8 June 10, 2005 with response to these comments ( not just yours randy) yes there is the WE NEED YOU TO GO HERE factor but i have seen lots of people get exactly where they wanted to go, in my career field at least. hell how do youthink I ended up ion vegas? EDIT. the problem may be staying here. there are request you can put in and it would guarentee you antoher 2 year tour if they approve it, but you gotta get the request in AFTER all the overseas slots are filled just gotta know who to talk toMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 June 10, 2005 JT i wonder(i could be wrong) if you are confusing your first reenlistment, with your 'second assignment'... by reenlisting you have a good bit of options you can get written into the contract, but just coming from a first assignment, other than trading orders or getting someone higher to pull strings i'd be REALLY surprised to see anyone get exactly what they wanted just by asking... but who knows maybe they've changed things to keep more people in and happy....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #10 June 10, 2005 QuoteQuote that first term airman have a good say when it comes to PCSing once stationed for a year. rotflmao.... while your at it can you get me a hundred yards of flight line? Hey, don't forget that K9P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #11 June 10, 2005 Thanks for the input, but I wasn't lookin for specifics on your AFSC. Just looking for the ups and downs of each area. For instance, Sheppard AFB in Texas blows. That place is the butt hole of America. Now here in Fl., it's really nice. I hear Eglin AFB is a dream spot b/c of the nice area and ocean near by. The only problem is that my supervision really sucks and I just want to keep my options open, if in fact this is an option. Just kinda toying with the idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #12 June 10, 2005 Ellsworth AFB, SD was nice most of the time. It was near both the Black Hills, which I LOVED, and the Bad Lands, which are beautiful. Two very different terrains for very different moods and need to relax. The disadvantage is the wind. It always seems to be blowing - that, the MWR and the isolation made for a high suicide rate one of the years that I was there. There also isn't any really active dropzone around there. There might be one cessna dz that's open maybe everyother weekend or so. But... it's on the chop block. So if that's what you want, get there quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilZilla 2 #13 June 10, 2005 Thats one thing I kinda worried about. The DZ I jump at now is really cool. Would hate to PCS to a location where the largest aircraft is a 182, or worse no airplane at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #14 June 10, 2005 dude, i was at H.F. for about 6 months, it wa spretty nice there (well besides the training i was doing qnd the injury i go there) but as for assignments, i would have to say the best was when i was in colorado, any of the bases there (4 active duty air force bases) were great, utah, well that wasn't the best, but it got better just before i left.... as for "second assignments" well it all depends, on where you want to go, where the air force needs people and how those two work together, rank and timing al play a big factor into things too. sayyou ant to go to korea, that's 100% garenteed pretty much, say florida though, depending on what job and it's damn near impossible. if you can throw "home baseing" or BOP into things that helps. and as for shepard, let me guess you were there for tech school and that was it right? wel i went back for 7lvl school june of last year and it wasn't so bad, less than 2 hours from both dallas and OKC and there are several dz's not that far away,, it isn't a bad place, just not the big city living.... and as for korea, well that's where i would be right now if i didn't get out and go palace chase to the reserves in march, that was the cool thing of force shaping FY'04 it let me cancel that assignment........... best bases i've been to: peterson, hulbert field, luke, nellis, and if you like outdoors stuff hill.... and i will have to say this, if you live off base and decide to live north of hill you can live less than a 5 minute drive to a dz with a caravan, i could look out my back door and see jumpers under canopy.. it was nice, it was a 3 mile drive to the dz or a 10 mile drive to work... so what's your afsc???? i was a 2a373 but am now a 2t211 (still waiting to go to tech shool for the new job) ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #15 June 10, 2005 Florida is about the best you will get in the states. Especially if it's in Tampa. Forgot the name of that base but CentCom is there. Eglin wouldn't be bad. The cost of living isn't bad and the area is generally nice. I have spent a LOT of time around the corner at Hurlburt Field. The only draw back there is that good DZ's are a bit of a drive. You have Emerald coast. Not sure what their regular plane is now and then you have Gold Coast which is a bit farther and I'm not sure of their status these days. You could probably get to SD Atlanta in 3-4 hours. If you could go somewhere in Central Florida that's where I'd be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #16 June 10, 2005 You could try for Rota, Southern Spain DZ near by, very cheap beer, an those gals are just pure latin lovers, you'll get used to the hairy armpits Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #17 June 10, 2005 A lot of people ask for specific assignments, locations etc... but it really boils down to the "needs of the AF" aka you'll go where AFPC needs you most... if that means you get your first choice then you get your first choice... if not... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #18 June 10, 2005 Definitely ask for an overseas posting. I learned far more travelling around Europe than I ever did in university. You will never appreciate how wealthy North Americans are until you have worked overseas for a few years. If you are smart, you will request a first world nation that has a serious skydiving scene like Germany or Italy or Spain. For example, when the Canadian Air Force posted me to Baden Solingen in Germany, we had a jump club on base (Cessna 182). Less than an hour North, the Karsrue Parachute Club based a Dornier 27 and turbo-prop Cessna 206 at Sweighofen, Germany. Less than an hour South, Strassburg, France had a Dornier and a Porter. Once a year, there was a Pink Skyvan Boogie in Baden Baden (20 minute drive) and my last year there I worked part time for Skydive Kangaroo. Couldn't ask for anything better. However it was clear that if I stayed in my MOC I would end up in Cold Lake or Bagotville, many hours drive from a DZ. That threat and dishonest NCOs forced me out of the Canadian Air Force. Now I am a full-time skydiving instructor who gets the occassional contract to coach CSAR Techs or drop British soldiers out of airplanes. Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hisgoofyness 0 #19 June 10, 2005 Hickam AFB in Hawaii (how could Hawaii suck???) Elmendorf AFB - Anchorage Alaska (where I spent 4 wonderful years) Yukota AFB - Japan (6 great months there) Note: Hawaii & Alaska are considered overseas assignments as they are not part of the lower 48 I would have loved to have been stationed in Germany as well. That was my next choice, but I opted out... ... and good luck to you sir!!! Goudha is for Buddha, and that's good enough for me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #20 June 10, 2005 QuoteHickam AFB in Hawaii (how could Hawaii suck???) Elmendorf AFB - Anchorage Alaska (where I spent 4 wonderful years) Yukota AFB - Japan (6 great months there) Note: Hawaii & Alaska are considered overseas assignments as they are not part of the lower 48 I would have loved to have been stationed in Germany as well. That was my next choice, but I opted out... ... and good luck to you sir!!! Good Luck with Hickam AFB... I wish there were more opertunities for engineers there... I've actually heard good things about Elmindorf AFB... A lot of Para Rescue Jumpers get stationed there to agument Coast Guard Rescue. I have a friend in Yakota Japan... I would like that assignment... so I can practice my japanese language skills... ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #21 June 10, 2005 Although I retired 1.5 yrs ago from the AF, I believe that program for first termers is still in effect. Call MPF customer service and if they don't know, check with your shirt. One of my troops used it to PCS out from under my iron hand I was on Hickam about a week ago. Traffic SUCKED ass on the island, but what a great assignment that would be! Wingnut prolly put down some of the best choices. But, sounds like your current base is enjoyable to you. Maybe ride it out........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #22 June 10, 2005 QuoteFlorida is about the best you will get in the states. there is also a JTF branch at Patrick AFB although its very specialized..(you are actually assigned to the plant in Melbourne, which is a really strange thing to see on your orders... ... LOTS of DZ's nearby... unfortunately i wasnt jumping yet when i spent my time there... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #23 June 10, 2005 There is a JSTARS detachment in Melbourne, FL. I have a friend there...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #24 June 10, 2005 That's the one... JSTARS is their primary mission but there is always more than that going on as well...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TallGuy 0 #25 June 10, 2005 Depends. Are you planning to skydive where you are stationed. I was stationed at Ramstein and LOVED it. But there was no drop zone close by and the ones that were remotely close by were pretty small. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
