rocketfeuille 0 #1 June 16, 2005 Does anyone have it? Do you usually have to pay an additional fee to your cellphone provider to access your email with your phone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitational 0 #2 June 16, 2005 Yes - love it as it let's me be a bit more mobile and clients (and the boss) are none the wiser. It is an additional fee but generally included with all the blackberry services. If you're getting one for personal use, don't bother as it can be more than one would want to pay. Getting it for work, go for it - it's a great tool.------ Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 June 16, 2005 Everybody at work has those things. I don't understand it. People once hand-scribbled letters. There were manual typewriters, then electric. If you want to communicate, the ideal is phones. More info in a shorter time. So why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. Seems like it is going backwards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 June 16, 2005 My big pet peeve is this Instant Messeging crap. The boss is all gung-ho about it and trying to get everyone to use it. I gave him my un-polished opinion about it today: QuoteLook, I turned off the audio alert on my email, because I get so damn much email at work, that the constant interruption was interfering with getting anything done. Now I can focus on what I'm doing, and every so often when I get a moment, I will check for new messages AT THE TIME I CHOOSE. If someone REALLY needs to talk to me ASAP, there is the phone. Now why the hell should I want to enable EVERYONE to interrupt me whenever THEY choose??? If the objective is to have me playing on IM all day, just let me know and I will quit wasting time trying to get something done."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #5 June 16, 2005 I actually made a bunch of money by stopping my company from using those, what a crock they were.... I would rather have a small tablet pc with a wireless access card (to communicate while not connected to a lan line) hell had i had this technology 3 years ago i would have never left the dz...... OK...... Blackberry SUCKED ASS...... I will never spend money on behind the times technology again......HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britboynz 0 #6 June 16, 2005 QuoteI would rather have a small tablet pc with a wireless access card (to communicate while not connected to a lan line) hell had i had this technology 3 years ago i would have never left the dz.....Quote This is exactly how i work...have a HP TC1100 tablet with a Telecom NZ 3G wireless card. got all my data, applications, software, email with a nice proper email client, rather than one of these tiny handheld devices that are slow/easily lost/have tiny buttons. All on a device slightly thicker than an A4 pad. works a treat. and best of all my employer paid for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites f1freak 0 #7 June 16, 2005 Thats it my friend, with the technology today.... there is NO reason to have a substandard device like blackberry has become.......HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #8 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. I prefer email to the phone because I can answer it when it's convenient for me and I don't end up playing phone tag with people. Also, by using email, I end up with everything in writing, and I often find that to be useful. And there is also the fact that I really hate talking on the phone... (Of course it all depends... for certain things it is better to just call someone.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gravitational 0 #9 June 16, 2005 QuoteI would rather have a small tablet pc with a wireless access card (to communicate while not connected to a lan line) ... Tablet PC...Blackberry...Blackberry is easier to manage in a very mobile environment - I'm a consultant and can be on the go a lot. In a corporate environment where there is primarily one (use this loosely) office building I could see the benefit. Since I'm a bit more mobile and could potentially be in more offices this week than companies you'll work for in a lifetime, I'll stick with my blackberry. QuoteI will never spend money on behind the times technology again...... While not as cutting edge as it used to be, in my environment it beats a tablet pc hands down - besides, the battery last longer and my 4 pound lappy is easy enough to haul if I really need to take a machine with me.------ Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #10 June 16, 2005 You saved me some typing. Thanks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites f1freak 0 #11 June 16, 2005 We used them for.... just about 2 years. and the service was substandard. I was and admin for a web hosting company, we depended on email, pages getting to us just as fast if not faster than our cells didnt matter if in minnesota or in brownsville TX.... never happened, and all they would ever say was "we never guaranteed when you would get the messages, just that you would get them....." so i guess i speak from my own crappy service i received from them..... I tell ya, the way cell phones are going and with them having less and less of the market they will be another chunk o plastic in the junk drawer with the old pagers...... (good service is the key....) I loved the size, hell i love what i thought they would be...... oh well...HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #12 June 16, 2005 Get yerself a clutch of SonyEricsson P910i phones, and use the built-in email client. Supports IMAP and VPNs too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites britboynz 0 #13 June 16, 2005 QuoteGet yerself a clutch of SonyEricsson P910i phones, and use the built-in email client. Supports IMAP and VPNs too. ewwww, but they have that horrendous Symbian O/S on them. Phone viruses anyone lol A mate of mine has one of the new HP iPaqs that have a SIM slot and can be used as a phone. Was very impressed with it, but I'll stick with my Nokia & use bluetooth to sync/backup contacts to my trusty tablet. Each to their own, though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #14 June 16, 2005 QuoteDoes anyone have it? Do you usually have to pay an additional fee to your cellphone provider to access your email with your phone?I am a moderator of the Internet's largest BlackBerry discussion forum - www.BlackBerryForums.com I also maintain a really good BlackBerry FAQ at www.BerryFAQ.com including some nifty things that new modern 2005-era BlackBerries can do nowadays. (The bright screen models with themes and ringtones). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #15 June 16, 2005 QuoteThats it my friend, with the technology today.... there is NO reason to have a substandard device like blackberry has become.......That's no longer true anymore. See this article: BlackBerry Myths Busted: The Modern 2005-Era BlackBerry Also, the best way to get the most reliable email is usually BlackBerry Enterprise Server, which is usually more reliable than the @blackberry.net email address. (Even so, @blackberry.net email have usually been more reliable than Treo email and Hiptop/Sidekick email -- when you _really_ have some experience with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #16 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. Seems like it is going backwards.True. Some people use BlackBerry improperly. One way to view it is that there are many schools of thoughts here. One can argue that the correct way to use wireless email is to use it away from the computer. You essentially use it as a notification device. You can use a BlackBerry as a voicemail device and a cellphone device too. Also, written is more easily asynchronous: (1) People read about 6 times faster than they speak. Most people can read 10 emails faster than listen to 10 voicemails. (2) Less disruption by an incoming email than incoming phone call. Phone calls cause interruptions, and leaving voicemail is more annoying than sending an email to many people. (3) You don't have to write on a BlackBerry unless you're really truly away from a computer. When you see something important on BlackBerry, just go to the computer instead and reply to the email instead (BlackBerry mirrors the email on the desktop computer). Just use it as a notification device and go to the nearest computer to do the heavy-duty replying. (4) Often, voice interferes with the environment and makes the environment more noisy. Less privacy too. This often overcomes the inconvenience of typing slowly into a BlackBerry -- i.e. people fire off an email instead. So basically in a nutshell, email will continue to exist because it's asynchronous. The speed of reading text is more than massively outweighs the delay in writing, especially when 20 short two-sentence emails is less "distracting" and "interrupting" than 5 short two-sentence voicemails. Advantages of voicemail remain. Sometimes your eyes are occupied (i.e. driving) and you can only do sound. But BlackBerries are capable of voicemails too, so that can still be taken advantages of. That's the beauty of the universalness of the unit. In fact, there are some services that takes advantage of the fastest human output (voice) and the fastest human input (reading), by converting the voicemails to text emails, through services such as DictoMail. Great stuff, reading your own voicemails without listening to them and going through them much faster. Anyway, as a BlackBerry expert and employed at a software development company that also makes third-party BlackBerry software too, I frequently hang out at BlackBerryForums and also maintain the BlackBerry FAQ. BlackBerries are definitely not for everyone, but some of these resources provide great insight to why a BlackBerry makes sense to many people. Not everyone likes to be interrupted by all those emails so the alerts are also very configurable and newer BlackBerries (OS 4.0) have finer level of control configurable email filters that allows you to get alerts only on important emails (your wife, for example!) - basically you set them to Level 1 and only turn on alerting for Level 1 priority emails. You can then instead glance at the BlackBerry every now WHEN YOU WANT and then as a "mirror of your desktop Inbox" whenever you've steped away from your computer. However, the BlackBerry CAN be abused and it can be an annoying device. It depends on how it is used and what guidelines is used. Use a device such as a BlackBerry wisely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #17 June 16, 2005 QuoteWe used them for.... just about 2 years. and the service was substandard. I was and admin for a web hosting company, we depended on email, pages getting to us just as fast if not faster than our cells didnt matter if in minnesota or in brownsville TX.... never happened, and all they would ever say was "we never guaranteed when you would get the messages, just that you would get them....." so i guess i speak from my own crappy service i received from them..... I tell ya, the way cell phones are going and with them having less and less of the market they will be another chunk o plastic in the junk drawer with the old pagers...... (good service is the key....) I loved the size, hell i love what i thought they would be...... oh well... Sure the service was sub-standard. If you really went with the technology, you would have bought your own server with it. My blackberry email is instantaniously with my desktop, plus it synchs wireless, plus the device is the size of a deck of cards.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tumbler 0 #18 June 16, 2005 I LOVE my Blackberry. I split yesterday afternoon and still was able to answer all my email and no one knew I was gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Icon134 0 #19 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. Well you haven't ever gotten one of my completely disjointed voicemail messages... If you had you would know that an email is much better... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Douva 0 #20 June 16, 2005 Is it possible to setup a Blackberry to receive AOL emails? My father/boss is looking for away to receive emails (he uses AOL) when he's out of the office.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #21 June 16, 2005 What about the TREO devices? I like the idea, of carying one device instead of two. I like the palm calendar and contacts setup, but I don't want to have to program it into two different devices. So it would be really cool to beable to have my calendar, phone, and contacts all in one. Would there be anyway to get my msn e-mail set directly to a treo? I'm pretty unfamiliar with the devices out there for all of this. Another thing I would like is to beable to access my e-mail when I travel. I don't travel that often, but it would be nice nine the less. So, info guru's, INFORM ME! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SuperKat 0 #22 June 16, 2005 You just pay a packaged wireless service fee. You can setup as many e-mail accounts to it as you want. My job gave it to me as a necessary evil. I don't love it nor do I hate it. I find it convenient. My work e-mail is setup on it. I also setup my personal e-mail account to be linked to it. I have the nextel model. Therefore, it's a nextel radio, portable e-mail and a cellphone. It's the way to go. It's practical. If I were to get stuck on Gilligan's Island, I can be home by the end of the day. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MattM 0 #23 June 16, 2005 I have been using a blackberry for almost 2 years. I absolutly love it. We have almost 300 Blackberries deployed in our organization and everyone loves them. I can answer e-mails no matter where I am, as I get them, so when I get back to my desk... I don't have to answer a bunch of e-mails and do what I came back to my desk to do. Everything you have in Outlook + Cell Phone = Blackberry. Gods gift to the business person. Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SuperKat 0 #24 June 16, 2005 QuoteI like the palm calendar and contacts setup, but I don't want to have to program it into two different devices. So it would be really cool to beable to have my calendar, phone, and contacts all in one.The blackberry does it all. The treo is in color so it's more flashy and unpractical. QuoteWould there be anyway to get my msn e-mail set directly to a treo? I'm pretty unfamiliar with the devices out there for all of this. Another thing I would like is to beable to access my e-mail when I travel.Put it this way. Taking the blackberry with you on the road is like taking your computer with you on the road. You'll have your e-mail, calendar, contacts, and tasks readily avialable on the blackberry. If you want convenience, it's the way to go. Just make sure you synchronize after you make an update to either to outlook or on the blackberry. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #25 June 16, 2005 I use the palm calendar, and not outlook, as I use msn for my e-mail, and I don't have outlook get my e-mail. Why is the treo more unpracticle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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f1freak 0 #7 June 16, 2005 Thats it my friend, with the technology today.... there is NO reason to have a substandard device like blackberry has become.......HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #8 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. I prefer email to the phone because I can answer it when it's convenient for me and I don't end up playing phone tag with people. Also, by using email, I end up with everything in writing, and I often find that to be useful. And there is also the fact that I really hate talking on the phone... (Of course it all depends... for certain things it is better to just call someone.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitational 0 #9 June 16, 2005 QuoteI would rather have a small tablet pc with a wireless access card (to communicate while not connected to a lan line) ... Tablet PC...Blackberry...Blackberry is easier to manage in a very mobile environment - I'm a consultant and can be on the go a lot. In a corporate environment where there is primarily one (use this loosely) office building I could see the benefit. Since I'm a bit more mobile and could potentially be in more offices this week than companies you'll work for in a lifetime, I'll stick with my blackberry. QuoteI will never spend money on behind the times technology again...... While not as cutting edge as it used to be, in my environment it beats a tablet pc hands down - besides, the battery last longer and my 4 pound lappy is easy enough to haul if I really need to take a machine with me.------ Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #10 June 16, 2005 You saved me some typing. Thanks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #11 June 16, 2005 We used them for.... just about 2 years. and the service was substandard. I was and admin for a web hosting company, we depended on email, pages getting to us just as fast if not faster than our cells didnt matter if in minnesota or in brownsville TX.... never happened, and all they would ever say was "we never guaranteed when you would get the messages, just that you would get them....." so i guess i speak from my own crappy service i received from them..... I tell ya, the way cell phones are going and with them having less and less of the market they will be another chunk o plastic in the junk drawer with the old pagers...... (good service is the key....) I loved the size, hell i love what i thought they would be...... oh well...HAVE FUN... ...JUST DONT DIE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #12 June 16, 2005 Get yerself a clutch of SonyEricsson P910i phones, and use the built-in email client. Supports IMAP and VPNs too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britboynz 0 #13 June 16, 2005 QuoteGet yerself a clutch of SonyEricsson P910i phones, and use the built-in email client. Supports IMAP and VPNs too. ewwww, but they have that horrendous Symbian O/S on them. Phone viruses anyone lol A mate of mine has one of the new HP iPaqs that have a SIM slot and can be used as a phone. Was very impressed with it, but I'll stick with my Nokia & use bluetooth to sync/backup contacts to my trusty tablet. Each to their own, though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #14 June 16, 2005 QuoteDoes anyone have it? Do you usually have to pay an additional fee to your cellphone provider to access your email with your phone?I am a moderator of the Internet's largest BlackBerry discussion forum - www.BlackBerryForums.com I also maintain a really good BlackBerry FAQ at www.BerryFAQ.com including some nifty things that new modern 2005-era BlackBerries can do nowadays. (The bright screen models with themes and ringtones). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #15 June 16, 2005 QuoteThats it my friend, with the technology today.... there is NO reason to have a substandard device like blackberry has become.......That's no longer true anymore. See this article: BlackBerry Myths Busted: The Modern 2005-Era BlackBerry Also, the best way to get the most reliable email is usually BlackBerry Enterprise Server, which is usually more reliable than the @blackberry.net email address. (Even so, @blackberry.net email have usually been more reliable than Treo email and Hiptop/Sidekick email -- when you _really_ have some experience with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #16 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. Seems like it is going backwards.True. Some people use BlackBerry improperly. One way to view it is that there are many schools of thoughts here. One can argue that the correct way to use wireless email is to use it away from the computer. You essentially use it as a notification device. You can use a BlackBerry as a voicemail device and a cellphone device too. Also, written is more easily asynchronous: (1) People read about 6 times faster than they speak. Most people can read 10 emails faster than listen to 10 voicemails. (2) Less disruption by an incoming email than incoming phone call. Phone calls cause interruptions, and leaving voicemail is more annoying than sending an email to many people. (3) You don't have to write on a BlackBerry unless you're really truly away from a computer. When you see something important on BlackBerry, just go to the computer instead and reply to the email instead (BlackBerry mirrors the email on the desktop computer). Just use it as a notification device and go to the nearest computer to do the heavy-duty replying. (4) Often, voice interferes with the environment and makes the environment more noisy. Less privacy too. This often overcomes the inconvenience of typing slowly into a BlackBerry -- i.e. people fire off an email instead. So basically in a nutshell, email will continue to exist because it's asynchronous. The speed of reading text is more than massively outweighs the delay in writing, especially when 20 short two-sentence emails is less "distracting" and "interrupting" than 5 short two-sentence voicemails. Advantages of voicemail remain. Sometimes your eyes are occupied (i.e. driving) and you can only do sound. But BlackBerries are capable of voicemails too, so that can still be taken advantages of. That's the beauty of the universalness of the unit. In fact, there are some services that takes advantage of the fastest human output (voice) and the fastest human input (reading), by converting the voicemails to text emails, through services such as DictoMail. Great stuff, reading your own voicemails without listening to them and going through them much faster. Anyway, as a BlackBerry expert and employed at a software development company that also makes third-party BlackBerry software too, I frequently hang out at BlackBerryForums and also maintain the BlackBerry FAQ. BlackBerries are definitely not for everyone, but some of these resources provide great insight to why a BlackBerry makes sense to many people. Not everyone likes to be interrupted by all those emails so the alerts are also very configurable and newer BlackBerries (OS 4.0) have finer level of control configurable email filters that allows you to get alerts only on important emails (your wife, for example!) - basically you set them to Level 1 and only turn on alerting for Level 1 priority emails. You can then instead glance at the BlackBerry every now WHEN YOU WANT and then as a "mirror of your desktop Inbox" whenever you've steped away from your computer. However, the BlackBerry CAN be abused and it can be an annoying device. It depends on how it is used and what guidelines is used. Use a device such as a BlackBerry wisely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #17 June 16, 2005 QuoteWe used them for.... just about 2 years. and the service was substandard. I was and admin for a web hosting company, we depended on email, pages getting to us just as fast if not faster than our cells didnt matter if in minnesota or in brownsville TX.... never happened, and all they would ever say was "we never guaranteed when you would get the messages, just that you would get them....." so i guess i speak from my own crappy service i received from them..... I tell ya, the way cell phones are going and with them having less and less of the market they will be another chunk o plastic in the junk drawer with the old pagers...... (good service is the key....) I loved the size, hell i love what i thought they would be...... oh well... Sure the service was sub-standard. If you really went with the technology, you would have bought your own server with it. My blackberry email is instantaniously with my desktop, plus it synchs wireless, plus the device is the size of a deck of cards.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumbler 0 #18 June 16, 2005 I LOVE my Blackberry. I split yesterday afternoon and still was able to answer all my email and no one knew I was gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #19 June 16, 2005 QuoteSo why take the best method (voice) and back up to the previous level (written) ? If they can't answer, send it to voice mail. Voice mail is a lot better than email. Well you haven't ever gotten one of my completely disjointed voicemail messages... If you had you would know that an email is much better... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #20 June 16, 2005 Is it possible to setup a Blackberry to receive AOL emails? My father/boss is looking for away to receive emails (he uses AOL) when he's out of the office.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #21 June 16, 2005 What about the TREO devices? I like the idea, of carying one device instead of two. I like the palm calendar and contacts setup, but I don't want to have to program it into two different devices. So it would be really cool to beable to have my calendar, phone, and contacts all in one. Would there be anyway to get my msn e-mail set directly to a treo? I'm pretty unfamiliar with the devices out there for all of this. Another thing I would like is to beable to access my e-mail when I travel. I don't travel that often, but it would be nice nine the less. So, info guru's, INFORM ME! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKat 0 #22 June 16, 2005 You just pay a packaged wireless service fee. You can setup as many e-mail accounts to it as you want. My job gave it to me as a necessary evil. I don't love it nor do I hate it. I find it convenient. My work e-mail is setup on it. I also setup my personal e-mail account to be linked to it. I have the nextel model. Therefore, it's a nextel radio, portable e-mail and a cellphone. It's the way to go. It's practical. If I were to get stuck on Gilligan's Island, I can be home by the end of the day. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattM 0 #23 June 16, 2005 I have been using a blackberry for almost 2 years. I absolutly love it. We have almost 300 Blackberries deployed in our organization and everyone loves them. I can answer e-mails no matter where I am, as I get them, so when I get back to my desk... I don't have to answer a bunch of e-mails and do what I came back to my desk to do. Everything you have in Outlook + Cell Phone = Blackberry. Gods gift to the business person. Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKat 0 #24 June 16, 2005 QuoteI like the palm calendar and contacts setup, but I don't want to have to program it into two different devices. So it would be really cool to beable to have my calendar, phone, and contacts all in one.The blackberry does it all. The treo is in color so it's more flashy and unpractical. QuoteWould there be anyway to get my msn e-mail set directly to a treo? I'm pretty unfamiliar with the devices out there for all of this. Another thing I would like is to beable to access my e-mail when I travel.Put it this way. Taking the blackberry with you on the road is like taking your computer with you on the road. You'll have your e-mail, calendar, contacts, and tasks readily avialable on the blackberry. If you want convenience, it's the way to go. Just make sure you synchronize after you make an update to either to outlook or on the blackberry. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #25 June 16, 2005 I use the palm calendar, and not outlook, as I use msn for my e-mail, and I don't have outlook get my e-mail. Why is the treo more unpracticle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
