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Me and the fam is cruising up to Wired - Nextfest this weekend. We'll be there tommorow, but have free time tommorow night and sunday morning before 12.

What is the best way to spend the limited amount of time in this city?


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Hancock Observatory
An architectural boat tour
Field Museum
Museum of Science and Industry
Art Institute
The Taste is going on, but I wouldn't recommend going there on a Sat or Sun unless you're comfortable with HUGE crowds....actually, take that as a forewarning. Downtown will be packed this weekend!
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Hit up the museums (natural history or science and industry) or the Shedd Aquarium. If you're feeling really motivated, stand out in front of what used to be Meigs field with a 'Daley is an idiot' sign. My little brother stopped me when we were there last weekend.
Food wise - Most places are good. If you've never had it, definitely check out a real Chicago style pizza at Unos, Dues, Giordanos, Eduardos or if you're real adventureous, Gino's East. Another touristy diner is Ed Debevic's. It's a short walk down Ontario from Michigan Ave. It's a 50's diner and the wait staff can be a bit 'harsh' but in an entertaining way.
Be careful sending your spouse/S.O. down Michigan Ave with a blank check.
Navy Pier has some cool shops and an Imax.
The lake tours are pretty lame.
If the kids are going, the observation deck of the Sears Tower or Hancock building are pretty cool if the skies are clear. If the skies are hazy, you won't be able to see very far.
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Crowds are due to the Taste of Chicago! :)
Mmm lunch next week at that taste! woohooo :D



Yeah, maybe I should actually pay attention and read!:S Sorry!

Thanks gravitational, these things should be more than enough to keep us occupied! I think I will do the Daley thing and get a picture, some buddies would get a kick out of it!


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The lake tours are pretty lame.



I would agree with that statement with the exception of the Seadog Speedboat Tours. It's especially cool if you can catch it on a night when there are fireworks at Navy Pier (Wednesday at 9:30pm and Saturdays at 10:15pm).

The Chicago Architecture Foundation's Architecture River Cruise is the BEST. Highly recommended--I've been on it at least 5 times and always learn something new. Avoid any other architecture river cruise run by the various boat companies--they suck.

I've actually been quite intrigued by the Chicago Segway Tour...looks dorky but fun. :D

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Chicago is going to be nuts this weekend. 90F+ temps, Next Fest, The best team in baseball, the White Sox, will be beating/owning the Cubs on the South Side and a few hundred thousand down at the Taste of Chicago....and I haven't checked to see if there is a convention in town.

Public transportation will be your friend parking will be full at Grant Park....anywhere else will start at $11-16 and go up to $25 for the day. I'm not sure where you are staying, but let me know if you need help with the CTA. Taxis will be your friend as well.

I'll be at Next Fest this weekend...just got back from a two hour lunch at the Taste. Here are some tips - bring your own water or camel back. Tickets are 11 for $7 and water for .5L is three tickets. Use the taste portions for 3 tickets to try things out - best way to try out a bunch. Meals are 5-9 tickets depending on what you get. I will suggest to try out the Wagnu Saloon at the Gourmet section near the fountain - they have a chocolate chip cookie dough egg roll for 3 tickets. Easily the best thing I had today - the BBQ Pull Pork was good as well. Thanks to the heat it wasn't that crowded today.

Just head to the taste....it will be crowded but the experience and the variety of food you can get there is well worth it. Ticket sales end at 8:30 and food at 9:00p. You can also see the Fountain while there and pick up a boat tour as well. There were some great blues bands playing today and there are free concerts each night starting at 6:30p or so. Google Taste of Chicago and find the site.

A good place for dinner is to try out Gino's East and get the stuffed pizza - you will not find better pizza anywhere else. You will find Chicago entertainment is often focused around food!

Plenty of bars to head to in Wrigleyville. Or you can try Second City or the Improve Olympic for comedy (tickets are available online). These are where SNL folk got their start.
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A good place for dinner is to try out Gino's East and get the stuffed pizza - you will not find better pizza anywhere else.



Sorry, I gotta chime in here! ;) If you want the best Chicago style pizza, forget Gino's or Uno's or Due. The hands down, BEST pizza anywhere is at Lou Malnati's!! Its on Kinzie near the Merchandise Mart. That pizza is to die for and way better than the other deep-dish pizza places that tourists go to. (Yes, I've tried them all.)

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A good place for dinner is to try out Gino's East and get the stuffed pizza - you will not find better pizza anywhere else.



Sorry, I gotta chime in here! ;) If you want the best Chicago style pizza, forget Gino's or Uno's or Due. The hands down, BEST pizza anywhere is at Lou Malnati's!! Its on Kinzie near the Merchandise Mart. That pizza is to die for and way better than the other deep-dish pizza places that tourists go to. (Yes, I've tried them all.)

Ok, thats all. Everything else he said is true. ;):P



No way man!!! Giordano's Stuffed Pizza is the best!!!!

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A good place for dinner is to try out Gino's East and get the stuffed pizza - you will not find better pizza anywhere else.



Sorry, I gotta chime in here! ;) If you want the best Chicago style pizza, forget Gino's or Uno's or Due. The hands down, BEST pizza anywhere is at Lou Malnati's!! Its on Kinzie near the Merchandise Mart. That pizza is to die for and way better than the other deep-dish pizza places that tourists go to. (Yes, I've tried them all.)

Ok, thats all. Everything else he said is true. ;):P



Sorry, Lou's isn't Chicago style pizza. It's good, but it just isn't Chicago style. Gino's, Giordano's, Uno's, Home Run Inn, or any of the small local places are better than there. (this coming from a guy that has worked in three pizza restaurants!)
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The best team in baseball, the White Sox, will be beating/owning the Cubs on the South Side and



sure, but if werent for the cubbies, the 2000 "fans" that actually show up to the sox games wouldn't create much traffic at all :S

also if you can hit up second city. I just went and saw their "red scare" show last night, and it was fukin hillarious! very worth the time to get there! :D
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The best team in baseball, the White Sox, will be beating/owning the Cubs on the South Side and



sure, but if werent for the cubbies, the 2000 "fans" that actually show up to the sox games wouldn't create much traffic at all :S



Sox are averaging 28,000 fans a game now. And they are all baseball fans, not bandwagon, yuppie, northsiders looking for just another bar. More fun anyday at a Sox game because people are there for the game....it's not a place to be seen!
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Damn you people, now I want real pizza!! :P

Florida just can't figure out how to do pizza right...



Had spinach deep dish today...nothing better than that....no one does pizza like chicago!
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The sox have the best record in baseball, and cant even fill their stadium on half priced monday. If you took away the "bandwagon, yuppie, northsiders looking for just another bar" at wrigley, you'd still have more actual fans there any day.

If your fans dont show up for an entire season until the playoffs, thats called band wagon...;)

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people are there for the game....it's not a place to be seen!



Dont blame the cubs because people actualy travel to go to their field. Theres nothing special about "the cell" so your right, its not a place to be seen:P
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Dont blame the cubs because people actualy travel to go to their field. Theres nothing special about "the cell" so your right, its not a place to be seen:P



Plenty to do at Comiskey - and plenty to see, like a team that can play and win!

I've been a die-hard fan since 1982. Have had a bunch of friends work for them over the years as well. I don't care who is/isn't there. What other people watch or don't watch has no effect on me or my liking of a team. Great thing about Sox fans? We don't care that you don't show up, we will have fun without you!

Sox=baseball
Cubs = an event

I prefer baseball
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Sox=baseball
Cubs = an event

I prefer baseball



you know its funny that the sox have 1 great season every 10 years, and they equal baseball... the sox have been as woefull as the cubs in the last 100 years +/- 2 months

all of baseball is an event, and if you go with the right people, and sit in the right sections, there are plenty of "baseball" fans at wrigley. but because of its history, it will always draw people that are just there to say they've been to wrigley.

Both teams play baseball, you will never see loads of fans at the cell when the sox suck, hell they're barley there now when they are the best. cubs fans will go to a game even when we know we aint winning shit this year. thats fans. I bet the cell will be full when playoffs come around. with loads of people wearing sox hats, and sox shirts, and claiming they're life long fans... and opening day '06 rolls around, and there are 15,000 people in the stands, the papers will still be writing about how the sox can attract fans to the games. because if they have to be 20+ games above .500 every year just to get people to come to the stadium, they better start looking for an easier way...
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you know its funny that the sox have 1 great season every 10 years, and they equal baseball... the sox have been as woefull as the cubs in the last 100 years +/- 2 months

once every 10 years? um, you should go back and look at their standings all thru the 90s....Sox have a better record than the Cubs and have had more chances at the playoffs than the Cubs.

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all of baseball is an event, and if you go with the right people, and sit in the right sections, there are plenty of "baseball" fans at Wrigley. but because of its history, it will always draw people that are just there to say they've been to Wrigley.



Sox have plenty of history as well...been around just as long, had Harry, Jack and Sammy before the Cubs....even had a movie made about them from 1919. Yup plenty of bad years for both - I know, I was at most of them in the 80s.

It's very simple in Chicago why people don't go to Sox games: WGN-TV/Radio. The Sox for years were stuck on a Ch 44 which was poorly broadcast across the city, and then Ch 32 before Fox purchased them. The Cubs were on one of the clearest, strongest TV stations in the city and received top press from their sister newspaper, The Chicago Tribune. I did a study about this when I was in my media classes in college.

This is the same reason that Atlanta is considered "America's Team." TBS got the Braves on every cable network in the 80s...if you had cable you could watch them for free.....same for the cubs on WGN Superstation. Saturation led people into following them. The Sox have never had this.

Even today you have the top broadcasters in the city pointing out how unfair the Tribune is in the coverage it gives to the White Sox. As someone that knows people that work at the Sun-Times and Tribune, they acknowledge that the Cubs get more back page coverage - they are capitalizing on the 30+ years of strong coverage to help sell papers.

The Sox haven't helped the situation either. Remember that their owner is the same guy that trashed the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordon's winning teams. He is money motivated and the rest of the ownership of the Sox is very old and has resisted doing anything to change their profit margin (yes, I know this for a fact, I worked with a family member of one of the owners)

In the late 80's Jerry threatened to take the team to FL and used it as leverage to get a new stadium that was designed with profit margins in mind, not baseball fans. Then they tore down one of the most loved Stadiums in the country and did almost nothing to connect the team to it's history - flushing away a lot of die hard fans. They continued trashing the history of the team by banning certain songs (Hey Hey Goodbye), moving Nancy Faust away from the fans and playing mostly DJ music, getting nasty ugly uniforms that removed any connection to their history, etc.

Jerry Reinsdorf was a key player behind the '94 strike when the Sox were far into first place and Frank Thomas was on his way to the Triple Crown. Then just a couple years later there was the "White Flag" trade when a good Sox team was traded away for a bunch of kids to "rebuild." The Sox had a chance at the playoffs that year and Jerry didn't like how much money the team was costing him, so he dumped them all in favor of going into a rebuilding mode (just like he did to MJ's Bulls). It got so bad that Mayor Daley swore off supporting the White Sox anymore!!

It's not that the Wrigley family has done a lot for the Cubs, but they made the team accessible to the city and always kept it tied close to its history. So while the Cubs had 30+ years of broadcasting success, the Sox had nothing but terrible management which helped destroy them in this town.
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saying sox = baseball, cubs = event, and that you prefer baseball is like saying you'd prefer a cessna to a super otter because "you don't like to walk far to get to the door" :P



And any baseball fan that trashes "The Cell" over what the stadium was when it opened in 1991 hasn't been there this year. They have made it into a great place to watch baseball....a very fan friendly environment.
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