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Blue Angels and Thunderbirds have nothing on the Russians?

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OK so the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds have nothing on the Russian's…

All right.... all you Blue Angel fans and fanatics...ya gotta appreciate the skills of these guys flying Russian designed aircraft....

Take a Good Look at the two following pics........Then ask......

"How Close is Close...??"
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those are 'hands down' some of the most manuverable fighters on the planet... I've talked to two US pilots who would rather fly them simply for the sheer joy of it than any fighter we've ever made.....B|
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those are 'hands down' some of the most manuverable fighters on the planet... I've talked to two US pilots who would rather fly them simply for the sheer joy of it than any fighter we've ever made.....B|



I've heard similar vibes too. I'll be surprised if one of those pilots didn't take a polariod of the other one in pic #2... :ph34r:
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now if only those two planes didn't represent half the country gross income......:P:P

The Russians have always built amazing planes!! look at the MiG 15 and the chaos it brought in Korea!! It took us a while to get the F-86 over there to combat them.

Ofcourse they used to enslave there designers and hold there families hostage until they got what they wanted. I guess that gave them a little motivation to stay late and skip the bar. :D
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I'll be surprised if one of those pilots didn't take a polariod of the other one in pic #2..



Now we know the secret of the Polaroid shot in "Top Gun." Maverick could take the polaroid because the Mig was doing all the flying :)
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I'll be surprised if one of those pilots didn't take a polariod of the other one in pic #2..



Now we know the secret of the Polaroid shot in "Top Gun." Maverick could take the polaroid because the Mig was doing all the flying :)
Wendy W.



...except that it wasn't really a Mig...
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It had little red stars on it, and the pilot had one on his helmet so it HAD to be a Mig, it just so happens that that model of Mig looked exactly like a F-5 our military used.:D

EDIT: I finally remember what plane it was.:D
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OK, how in the hell could the pilots in the first photo even know how close they were to each other?


Looks like the plane on the left (your left, not the pilot's :)
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OK, how in the hell could the pilots in the first photo even know how close they were to each other?


Looks like the plane on the left (your left, not the pilot's :)


They have plenty of seperation, it just doesn't look like. Something about depth-of-field getting compressed by using a super-telescopic lense. Like the picture of the skydivers that look like they're about to hit the airliner, or a lot fo the shots in Joe Jenning's "Good Stuff" where it looks like people are about 500 feet off the ground. Still cool planes and very agile... but they aren't that close.
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It was an F-5 BTW.

OK, how in the hell could the pilots in the first photo even know how close they were to each other?



F5E, yup. Frame grab I found. I've got the DVD here, but I just found a freakin scratch in it, so it won't play in my computer. >:(
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The longer the lens, the flatter the image. The planes are pretty spankin' close, but they're not that close. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if, in the second photo, the top plane was actually flying next to (not directly above) the bottom plane.

The astounding thing about the Blue Angels photos is that they were taken with a wide angle lens (evidenced by the distortion at the edges of the frame). So the planes in those pictures are actually closer than they appear.

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I wonder if when members of the Blue Angels/Thunderbirds/Red Arrows think the same when they see pictures of formation skydives or CF or FF.

Whilst the shots are very impressive there relative speed is not that great.

I see a correllation here between what we do and what they do. Other than the different skill set for flying a fast jet is there any difference between this and say a cameraman flying close to a tandem or a large group of free flyers in formation?

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Landing an aircraft on a carrier in rough seas, now that is impressive.

BTW everyone knows the Red Arrows are the finest aerobatic pilots out there;)



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Ofcourse they used to enslave there designers and hold there families hostage until they got what they wanted. I guess that gave them a little motivation to stay late and skip the bar. :D



Propaganda is a powerful weapon isn't it ? [:/]

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The thing to remember about any aerial demonstration team is that they are as much illisionist as accomplished pilots. Every move is carefully choreographed to provide the maxium suggestion of danger while minimizing the risk as much as possible.

if you ever get a chance, find out when the Birds or Angels will be in town and then watch the show from somewhere other than the airshow. Viewing the show from a "wrong" angle will give you a much better idea of their seperation. They're still close, but not near as close as you'd think.

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