PLFKING 4 #1 July 13, 2005 I'm having an argument with a few of the engineers here....I think it might be possible to jump the space shuttle launch. If you mounted some kind of handle to the solid fuel booster....how long could you hold on before your own increasing body weight pulled you off ? Would you be able to kick away far enough from the burning fuel, or could you wear a Nomex cape and release it prior to deployment ? And no, I'm not drunk. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #2 July 13, 2005 Doesnt that thing pull a tremendous amount of Gs very quickly?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainbb7 0 #3 July 13, 2005 This is from http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/shuttle/reference/basics/launch.html "it takes eight seconds for the engines and boosters to accelerate the ship to 161 kilometers per hour (100 mph.) But by the time the first minute has passed, the shuttle is traveling more than 1,609 kilometers per hour (1,000 mph)" Still think you could hold on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #4 July 13, 2005 I'd say that even if you were superman, you'd most likely get your arms ripped off the second the rocket fuel ignited and gave the thing some forward motion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #5 July 13, 2005 i think you would have to strap yourself on somehow... i'm pretty sure even if it only pulled 3 Gs, most people wouldn't be able to hold on. and it probably pulls more then 3 Gs. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #6 July 13, 2005 QuoteI'd say that even if you were superman, you'd most likely get your arms ripped off the second the rocket fuel ignited and gave the thing some forward motion. Not if you were superman... he's faster then a speeding bullet... but I also doubt it is possible. ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kturnau 0 #7 July 13, 2005 A space shuttle exerts about 3 Gs on the people inside during a launch. To put it into perspective a 190 pound person being subjected to 3 Gs would would feel like they are 570 pounds. You would have to be pretty damn strong to hold that let alone be fire-proof enough to withstand 6,100 degrees of heat!FALLATIO #13 PELT HEAD #20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #8 July 13, 2005 my physics are terrible but... it accelerates to 28968 km/hr in approximately 510 sec. so 28968/3600 = 8.05 km/sec then 8.05/510 =.16 km/sec^2 acceleration earths normal gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2 which =.098 km/s^2 so, .16/.098 = 1.63 times earths normal gravity. got that hurt. tell me I did it wrong. I dont care. also I didnt factor in any other variables, and I assumed that the acceleration is constant... Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 July 13, 2005 Take a look at the video of the piece of foam that ultimately destroyed the Space Shuttle Columbia. The shuttle was at about 66k feet when this happened and was traveling at about 2300 feet per second. That little 1 1/2 pound piece of foam slowed down enough due to aerodynamic drag in that short distance to pulverize itself and the shuttle wing, impacting at roughly 775 feet per second. This deceleration occured in less than 2/10's of a second. So, the aerodynamic drag on you would be incredible within the first probably ten seconds or so. Also, the g-forces would be stretching you out. Assuming you release, you'll slow down much like that chunk of foam, but the orbiter and its boosters will not. Leaving you with probably about 2-3/10's of a second to enjoy the ride, assuming you hadn't already passed out, before you either impacy the rocket or are quickly incinerated by the exhaust. The sound alone may kill you. Oh, also, you'd want to avoid those contrails. I hear they contain chemicals known to the government to kill you right quickly! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #10 July 13, 2005 Maybe if you mounted an ejection seat to the side of the tank that would a) keep you with the rocket till exit altitude and b) propel you away from the rocket so you could avoid the flamage, but I doubt even that would work. What would it be, about a 15 second ride to altitude? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #11 July 13, 2005 It seems you are all discussing "terminal" velocities and gravitational pulls. In every video I've seen, it seems to take several seconds just for the rocket to clear the tower, meaning a gradual build-up of forces. It seems to me that it might take at least 2-3000 ft. before it built up enough force to tear you away. But I'm not a physicist, so what do I know ? It just seems doeable to me, if you could survive the contrail (I'd forgotten that word). Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #12 July 13, 2005 I think it might be possible to jump the space shuttle launch. *** That suckers pretty tall.....BASE it during the countdown! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #13 July 13, 2005 QuoteIn every video I've seen, it seems to take several seconds just for the rocket to clear the tower, Yeah... and that tower is only 10 feet high Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #14 July 13, 2005 I think the question should be, How to survive the reentry for the longest freefall ever? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #15 July 13, 2005 The noise on the launch platform when the shuttle lifts off gets up to nearly 190dB SPL. That'll most likely cause arrhythmia, if not stop your heart altogether. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 July 13, 2005 The contrail is pretty important. Also, you're ability to track away from it will certainly be affected. As you try to track away, the wind will keep blowing you down to the nozzles. Twardo had the best surviveable solution - BASE jump it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #17 July 13, 2005 As I said above, the "sound alone may kil you." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #18 July 13, 2005 The tower is also 350 feet high. Are those MI engineers you're debating with? Why don't you guys go try it... take your sorry excuse for a football team with you to try it out. 0-100mph in 8 seconds... I'm guessing if you had a foot-hold, you could hang out for about 20 seconds before you'd need to get off. This is all assuming the sound pressure alone doesn't kill you, then you'd just need to avoid getting toasted. I'm not sure nomex is going to help you there it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #19 July 13, 2005 y aknow I was thiking that earlier today, but I bet the security is top notch for some reasonLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #20 July 13, 2005 Didn't someone on this board already do this once? "I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #21 July 13, 2005 QuoteDidn't someone on this board already do this once? Spectre230 ? No, I think he was just jumping from F-14s and MiGs, if I remember correctly. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #22 July 13, 2005 Quote the "sound alone may kill you." That sounds like the quote from the movie "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid", just before they jump off the cliff into the water below, to escape from the posse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #24 July 14, 2005 QuoteLinky? I was being facetious, referring to a braggart or two known to frequent this site... Sorry for the misunderstanding..."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #25 July 14, 2005 Believe it or not the shuttle does have a Parachute Escape system for use during an abort in a certian segment of the launch.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites