aftermid 0 #1 July 26, 2005 What steps should I take either way to prevent security from fiddle f#cking with my rig. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #2 July 26, 2005 QuoteWhat steps should I take either way to prevent security from fiddle f#cking with my rig. Thanks Take it as a carry on. Make sure you have your AAD card with you. Last time I flew, it went fine (including having 2 hook knives in the gear bag!!!) "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 July 26, 2005 Quote(including having 2 hook knives in the gear bag!!!) You're not smarter then you look are you?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #4 July 26, 2005 QuoteQuote(including having 2 hook knives in the gear bag!!!) You're not smarter then you look are you? Don't hate me because I'm beautiful! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #5 July 26, 2005 Please carry it in some kind of bag.I know it's cool to let everyone know your a skydiver but it's better not to have the extra attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aftermid 0 #6 July 26, 2005 What's an AAD card? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #7 July 26, 2005 you really should try a search on this. The topic has been discussed fairly extensively... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #8 July 26, 2005 QuoteWhat's an AAD card? It is a card with an xray image of a rig explaining to the TSA personnel what they are seeing when a rig is scanned. It should have come with the cypres. But if you are like me and bought your cypres used, you might not have gotten it. I did find these images of the card which I printed off and carry with my rig when I fly. I also carry the tsa letter when I fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #9 July 26, 2005 I always carry a printout of the TSA's regulations on carrying on a rig, a printout of the airline's policy on carrying on a rig, a full-page printout of a Cypres card, and a copy of the USPA recommendations page where it states the exact section of the TSA screeners' manual that details how to search a rig. I've met a few ignorant screeners, but the paperwork has always gotten me through without a problem. You'll have to search the website of the airline you'll be flying to see if their policy is posted. Here are links to some of the information you'll need: http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1147.xml http://www.cypres.cc/Fotos/Sites/My_Cypres/PTT_Parachuting_102003.pdf http://www.uspa.org/membership/travel/rigs.htm#tsa "Skydivers encountering problems with screeners should request that the screener's supervisor become involved. Skydivers should insist that the supervisor review 'Chapter Section 17.2 of Version 4.0 of the Screening Checkpoint Standard Operating Procedure.'" http://www.cypres.cc/Sites/englisch/My_Cypres_airtravel.htm Here is the Southwest Airlines information: http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/sports_equipment.html The rules for parachutes on American Airlines are in their Sabre Reservations Computer under the heading N*Prohibited Articles. It's on line 76N Parachutes without CO2 Cartridges are allowed. (This information may be dated.)I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Icarus 0 #10 July 26, 2005 Does anyone have a .pdf of the USPA's page where it states the exact TSA manual listings, or where to obtain the airlines policy on carrying a rig? Thanks Continental http://www.continental.com/travel/policies/baggage/sports.asp?SID=FCFC92D64D17487698FC49939531FC3C Delta http://www.delta.com/travel/plan/baggage_info/special_baggage/sporting_goods/index.jsp ________________________________________ "What What..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #11 July 26, 2005 QuotePlease carry it in some kind of bag.I know it's cool to let everyone know your a skydiver but it's better not to have the extra attention. Amen, brother. Just play it low key. I've never had any problem. The security guys sometimes joke about what they are seeing. One thing that will attract attention is a weight vest. All that lead makes a big blank spot that they will have to inspect. Maybe you could check those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #12 July 26, 2005 I always carry my rig on. All my other gear is in my checked luggage - especially my hook knife. I, also, carry my Cypress card, a printout of the TSA statement about parachutes, a printout from the airline I'm flying on of their policy on parachutes. I arrive 2 hours before my flight just in case there are questions that I need to spend some time answering regarding my rig. I've noticed that TSA is getting a lot better with the way they handle rigs. A lot of times now if a TSA agent hasn't seen a rig go through screening before, your rig will be used as a training tool by the supervisors. Be patient, polite, and you shouldn't have any issues.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 July 26, 2005 QuoteI always carry my rig on. All my other gear is in my checked luggage - especially my hook knife. I, also, carry my Cypress card, a printout of the TSA statement about parachutes, a printout from the airline I'm flying on of their policy on parachutes. I arrive 2 hours before my flight just in case there are questions that I need to spend some time answering regarding my rig. I've noticed that TSA is getting a lot better with the way they handle rigs. A lot of times now if a TSA agent hasn't seen a rig go through screening before, your rig will be used as a training tool by the supervisors. Be patient, polite, and you shouldn't have any issues. That's exactly what I do. Almost word for word. The biggest stop I've ever had was a VERY critical look at my weight belt. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #14 July 26, 2005 definitly take it as carry on. Last time i went i forgot to take my hookknives off, and they looked at them asked what they were for, i told them, and they said that was good that i was being safe about it and let me go. Usually i try to remember to take the hook knives off, but taking the rig as a carry on is the way to go. i do it all the time. CReW Skies,"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #15 July 26, 2005 The rules for parachutes on American Airlines are in their Sabre Reservations Computer under the heading N*Prohibited Articles. It's on line 76N Parachutes without CO2 Cartridges are allowed. (This information may be dated.) no it's current. I just checked it on line the other night at work. I'm flying to WFFC Augst 5th...and rigs / gear bags do fit Nicely in all the overhead bins on all AA aircraft. exception. I've seen some very big huge gear bags... stuffed full things... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bendywendy 0 #16 July 26, 2005 Most airports don't even look twice at them anymore. Only time they even held it up for a second with me was when I did have it jammed in a bag and the way it was stuffed in it looked like there was a big piece of interesting metal in there. They even had me come look at the screen and asked what it was. It looked like a large foreign object in my reserve container. I looked and said well, since I packed it last and know I didn't leave any tools in it - I don't have a clue! We pulled it out of the lovely bag I had jammed it into and ran it through again - It was just the way all the hip rings, chest rings and everything lined up when it was crammed in the bag. I rarely stuff it in a bag anymore because of that and the bag is usually more uncomfortable than just tossing it on my back but I usually carry it through the airport with a jacket or something tossed over it. Most people don't have a clue what it is but I'm a snobby traveler - I don't want to talk to the nervous person next to me. I sleep or read. Keep in mind if you ever check it that most airlines don't cover more than 1,500.00 on lost luggage - so that is why they'd have to kick me off the plane - I'd never let them check it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakyrat 1 #17 July 27, 2005 Only airport I was asked to run my rig separately from the kitbag was at Jacsonville, Fl and I just put it in one of those grey trays and ran it seperately through the machine. That and a wipedown and I was on my way to the gate with minimal delay. The thing that sometimes freaks them out is the reserve pilot chute spring. I carry pictures of the reserve pilot chute unpacked just in case. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beverly 1 #18 July 27, 2005 If you check it, ensure you lock it with Tie Downs. They can then squeeze them open without breaking your zips or locks. Don't pack any weights or lead things in the bag, place these in your normal luggage checked as well. I carried on my helmet with protrack etc. I think true friendship is under-rated Twitter: @Dreamskygirlsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btucker 0 #19 July 27, 2005 QuoteOne thing that will attract attention is a weight vest. All that lead makes a big blank spot that they will have to inspect. Maybe you could check those. Spot on. One time (Feb 2002) security wanted to cut into the sausages in my weight vest. Eventually they didn't but it chewed up some time. One of our guys wore his weight belt - that is stupid and asking for real trouble! Blue Dreams Benno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #20 July 27, 2005 QuoteMost people don't have a clue what it is but I'm a snobby traveler - I don't want to talk to the nervous person next to me. I sleep or read. Yeah, people usually comment, 'that's funny looking backpack'. Security has never been an issue for me. Sometimes people will call over their supervisor, but they're usually more interested in asking about skydiving than they are inspecting the rig. Sometimes a nervous person will ask why I have a parachute, and I respond with, 'they're giving them out at the door; you didn't get one?!' I usually get a few laughs from other passengers and it lightens the mood with snobby travellers! JeffShhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #21 July 27, 2005 I appreciate a question like this... I am flying with my rig in less than month, and was wondering what steps I needed to take! I just hope the Vigil has an airport card like the Cypres does! "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
