DaGimp 0 #1 August 8, 2005 So i got a call from Bolas last night......3am Sunday night and there was NO parting going on at the convention....whats up with that???"Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpchikk 0 #2 August 8, 2005 It's because we weren't there partaking in the peach moonshine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #3 August 8, 2005 You can bet your butt that Spence was!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #4 August 8, 2005 >whats up with that??? The convention is starting to fade away, I think. Attendance is way down this yer just from looking around. Fewer vendors, and they're going to lose more next year because they had to increase prices to compensate. (Food tent space went up $100 this year.) Larry has been having trouble filling his airplanes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashtanga 0 #5 August 8, 2005 QuoteThe convention is starting to fade away, I think. Attendance is way down this yer just from looking around. Fewer vendors, and they're going to lose more next year because they had to increase prices to compensate. (Food tent space went up $100 this year.) Larry has been having trouble filling his airplanes. That's because everyone saves their money for the X-Mas Boogie. Larry has NO trouble filling his planes there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #6 August 8, 2005 They're all saving their partying for Atlanta... "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #7 August 8, 2005 Any attendence numbers out yet? (I realize it's early, just curious) I think I have an over-under bet going with someone Personally, I'd be more likely to go if there was some kind of weekend pass deal. I can't see paying $70 for 3 or 4 days.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #8 August 8, 2005 QuoteAttendance is way down this yer just from looking around. Is it just the convention or are all the "destination" boogies down this year (ie is the economy at least partly to blame)? I was told there were about a hundred fewer people at Lost Prairie this year as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 August 8, 2005 QuoteIs it just the convention or are all the "destination" boogies down this year (ie is the economy at least partly to blame) Skyfest was bigger then ever, even with crappy weather.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpchikk 0 #10 August 8, 2005 QuotePersonally, I'd be more likely to go if there was some kind of weekend pass deal. I can't see paying $70 for 3 or 4 days. I agree. I would see myself driving to the convention and making a few jumps on the weekend, if it weren't for that $70 registration fee. But, having to compensate for the high gas prices and then being hit with that registration fee, I couldn't afford it. Plus I am saving all my partying for Atlanta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #11 August 8, 2005 Boogies may well indeed be down, but jump numbers overall are up. I have to wonder if in part it is due to the fact that there are so many boogies to choose from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #12 August 8, 2005 And three turbine DZ's within an hour or so of my house. Who needs to hit a boogie when you have that? Well, okay, the parties are great, and it's fun to see a lot of old friends and make new ones, but to have great jumping I don't need to go anywhere but right around here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weegegirl 2 #13 August 8, 2005 Rantoul is a very expensive party. If you've been a couple years in a row, you've pretty much seen what there is to see. Sure, it's a great time, but it is NOT the safest place to jump. At this point, for me, I would rather meet my friends at a small low-key boogie or a skillz camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #14 August 8, 2005 QuoteI have to wonder if in part it is due to the fact that there are so many boogies to choose from. I wonder the same thing. Along the same lines - has the appearance of a lot of new boogies affected attendance at the "older" boogies? Not that it matters. Any boogie is a good time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #15 August 8, 2005 Quotehas the appearance of a lot of new boogies affected attendance at the "older" boogies? I can tell you that Holiday has increased in attendance. Even so, boogies just aren't what they once were. There is a "boogie" just about every week end..somewhere. People that do not have a turbine aircraft, can find one to jump from not far from home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #16 August 8, 2005 QuoteI can tell you that Holiday has increased in attendance. Timing, maybe? There aren't as many boogies in the winter (well, other than in FL, AZ and CA ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaGimp 0 #17 August 8, 2005 QuoteThere is a "boogie" just about every week end..somewhere. i agree.....ok....thats it people........from now on....only one boogie every other month per coast line!!!! "Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #18 August 8, 2005 Here in Ohio I'm 3 hours from 4 turbine DZ's and 4-5 piston DZ's. Years ago when a big plane was a Beech and an Otter was a treat then I could see driving the 5 hours to get to a boogie that had a few of them. I started after turbines were already at most DZ's so I'd rather save my registration fee money and put it towards jumps at a DZ I can drive home from that night if I want to. At least at home I know jumpers that fly their canopies like idiots will be talked to unlike at WFFC where that seems to be the norm Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeForsythe 0 #19 August 8, 2005 I think skydiving has evolved and the convention is a victim of it. From an economic stand point the convention with high vendor fees, $70.00 non-prorated registration fees and $22.00 jumps are no longer a bargain. In contrast for example, the holiday boogie is free for vendors, $30.00 registration fees and $16.00 jumps. There is also the fact that it is losing its luster to attract people. The standard turbines are more common at DZ’s across the nation. Ballons and helicopter are also becoming more common at other boogies. And the bottom line is people miss Rod and a jet. Boogies, boogies, boogies! We have arrived at the point where there is a boogie almost every weekend somewhere. And face it, people like variety. Now we have the opportunity to go different places and not only see our friends but meet new ones. This also allows us to seek out new places and adventures while at the new boogies. The convention would be better served to only have it every two to three years instead of every year. That way I think more people would be attracted to it. Stay safe, MikeTime and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpwally 0 #20 August 8, 2005 Too much partying and a less safe gig = a been there done that attitude which leads to look else where and the competition for the entertainment dollar.smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #21 August 8, 2005 QuoteNow we have the opportunity to go different places and not only see our friends but meet new ones. This also allows us to seek out new places and adventures while at the new boogies. Yup, that's the attraction to boogies for me - the place and the people. I can jump a (faster than most planes at boogies) turbine, and do better quality skydives, at home for less money. QuoteThe convention would be better served to only have it every two to three years instead of every year. That way I think more people would be attracted to it. I think that's a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sen.Blutarsky 0 #22 August 8, 2005 QuoteI can jump a (faster than most planes at boogies) turbine, and do better quality skydives, at home for less money. That's also why I've never had a desire to attend WFFC. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tigra 0 #23 August 8, 2005 Ditto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #24 August 8, 2005 QuoteI think I have an over-under bet going with someone Not anymore, cheater!!! I've kept going back to the WFFC because of the reunion aspect of it. Yes, I can jump great aircraft about an hour from my house. I can do some awesome skydives, jump with some of the best in the world and have a really good time all less than an hour from my house. However, the WFFC still is the only place I can run into people from all over the country at one place. Maybe it's not as big of a deal anymore since things like dropzone.com make it easier to "stay connected" to all of the skydivers you meet. I don't really know. Another part of the Convention is that I have a lot of fond memories (and I'm one of those cheesy nostalgic types.) Maybe moving to every other year would be a good idea. It would make it more special. It would make it more of a "reunion" instead of a "party." Who knows? No boogie is really a "bust." Every boogie is what you make of it.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #25 August 8, 2005 Back years ago a big plane at a boogies was a draw. If you were jumping a Cessna and you and your buddies wanted some serious air, or to jump with a big name organizer you ahd to go to a boogie...Well other Cessna monkeys thought the same way and you all went to these big boogies. One year in the late 70's Zhills Turkey boogie had 100 10 way TEAMS. Now its around 5 teams. The reason is everyone has an otter now, but back then only a few DZ's had DC3's So the convention was THE boogie. Attendance was close to 4 grand a year. But as every DZ got Turbines, and organizers. And then the Convention lost the Jet...Well most people can find a boogie closer that costs less and has close to the same stuff. Why would I go to the Convention when I live on a Big DZ. You could say to see my friends, but I live on a Big DZ. They come see me at Turkey meet, Xmas and Easter. I think the fact that there are more DZ's with turbines means that the WFFC needs to provide something that other DZ's can't...And as of yet, they have not been able to do that in a scope large enough to draw the crowds."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 1 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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weegegirl 2 #13 August 8, 2005 Rantoul is a very expensive party. If you've been a couple years in a row, you've pretty much seen what there is to see. Sure, it's a great time, but it is NOT the safest place to jump. At this point, for me, I would rather meet my friends at a small low-key boogie or a skillz camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #14 August 8, 2005 QuoteI have to wonder if in part it is due to the fact that there are so many boogies to choose from. I wonder the same thing. Along the same lines - has the appearance of a lot of new boogies affected attendance at the "older" boogies? Not that it matters. Any boogie is a good time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #15 August 8, 2005 Quotehas the appearance of a lot of new boogies affected attendance at the "older" boogies? I can tell you that Holiday has increased in attendance. Even so, boogies just aren't what they once were. There is a "boogie" just about every week end..somewhere. People that do not have a turbine aircraft, can find one to jump from not far from home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #16 August 8, 2005 QuoteI can tell you that Holiday has increased in attendance. Timing, maybe? There aren't as many boogies in the winter (well, other than in FL, AZ and CA ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGimp 0 #17 August 8, 2005 QuoteThere is a "boogie" just about every week end..somewhere. i agree.....ok....thats it people........from now on....only one boogie every other month per coast line!!!! "Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #18 August 8, 2005 Here in Ohio I'm 3 hours from 4 turbine DZ's and 4-5 piston DZ's. Years ago when a big plane was a Beech and an Otter was a treat then I could see driving the 5 hours to get to a boogie that had a few of them. I started after turbines were already at most DZ's so I'd rather save my registration fee money and put it towards jumps at a DZ I can drive home from that night if I want to. At least at home I know jumpers that fly their canopies like idiots will be talked to unlike at WFFC where that seems to be the norm Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #19 August 8, 2005 I think skydiving has evolved and the convention is a victim of it. From an economic stand point the convention with high vendor fees, $70.00 non-prorated registration fees and $22.00 jumps are no longer a bargain. In contrast for example, the holiday boogie is free for vendors, $30.00 registration fees and $16.00 jumps. There is also the fact that it is losing its luster to attract people. The standard turbines are more common at DZ’s across the nation. Ballons and helicopter are also becoming more common at other boogies. And the bottom line is people miss Rod and a jet. Boogies, boogies, boogies! We have arrived at the point where there is a boogie almost every weekend somewhere. And face it, people like variety. Now we have the opportunity to go different places and not only see our friends but meet new ones. This also allows us to seek out new places and adventures while at the new boogies. The convention would be better served to only have it every two to three years instead of every year. That way I think more people would be attracted to it. Stay safe, MikeTime and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #20 August 8, 2005 Too much partying and a less safe gig = a been there done that attitude which leads to look else where and the competition for the entertainment dollar.smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #21 August 8, 2005 QuoteNow we have the opportunity to go different places and not only see our friends but meet new ones. This also allows us to seek out new places and adventures while at the new boogies. Yup, that's the attraction to boogies for me - the place and the people. I can jump a (faster than most planes at boogies) turbine, and do better quality skydives, at home for less money. QuoteThe convention would be better served to only have it every two to three years instead of every year. That way I think more people would be attracted to it. I think that's a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #22 August 8, 2005 QuoteI can jump a (faster than most planes at boogies) turbine, and do better quality skydives, at home for less money. That's also why I've never had a desire to attend WFFC. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #24 August 8, 2005 QuoteI think I have an over-under bet going with someone Not anymore, cheater!!! I've kept going back to the WFFC because of the reunion aspect of it. Yes, I can jump great aircraft about an hour from my house. I can do some awesome skydives, jump with some of the best in the world and have a really good time all less than an hour from my house. However, the WFFC still is the only place I can run into people from all over the country at one place. Maybe it's not as big of a deal anymore since things like dropzone.com make it easier to "stay connected" to all of the skydivers you meet. I don't really know. Another part of the Convention is that I have a lot of fond memories (and I'm one of those cheesy nostalgic types.) Maybe moving to every other year would be a good idea. It would make it more special. It would make it more of a "reunion" instead of a "party." Who knows? No boogie is really a "bust." Every boogie is what you make of it.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #25 August 8, 2005 Back years ago a big plane at a boogies was a draw. If you were jumping a Cessna and you and your buddies wanted some serious air, or to jump with a big name organizer you ahd to go to a boogie...Well other Cessna monkeys thought the same way and you all went to these big boogies. One year in the late 70's Zhills Turkey boogie had 100 10 way TEAMS. Now its around 5 teams. The reason is everyone has an otter now, but back then only a few DZ's had DC3's So the convention was THE boogie. Attendance was close to 4 grand a year. But as every DZ got Turbines, and organizers. And then the Convention lost the Jet...Well most people can find a boogie closer that costs less and has close to the same stuff. Why would I go to the Convention when I live on a Big DZ. You could say to see my friends, but I live on a Big DZ. They come see me at Turkey meet, Xmas and Easter. I think the fact that there are more DZ's with turbines means that the WFFC needs to provide something that other DZ's can't...And as of yet, they have not been able to do that in a scope large enough to draw the crowds."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
