benforde 0 #26 August 30, 2005 QuoteBoogie fees should not include beer. It's totally unfair for anyone that doesn't drink beer. I agree, make it free Vodka! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vdschoor 0 #27 August 30, 2005 Quote Ferry fees vary due the distance traveled for ware and tear on the aircraft and the cost of the fuel for travel. The actual use of the aircraft during the boogie is $1 per person per 1,000 feet of lift and the DZO provides the fuel. If anyone else would like to provide further ferry/cost info lets have it. Some additional terms and conditions: If you get my plane for the boogie, it's x dollars per slot to x altitude.. for every 1000ft above that, it's x dollars extra per slot If you use my aircraft, you have to fly it for a minimum of x loads, preferable no less than 2 loads back to back.. If you want my aircraft for the boogie, it will be the primary aircraft, and you can not use your own until my aircraft is backed up x number of loads... etc etc etc etc. These are just random terms and conditions that are out there... it's not just flying the airplane out to your boogie and then get billed afterwards for the usage.. there are all sorts of minimums related to it usually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #28 August 30, 2005 Don't forget the "you must provide a Hotel and rental car or ride for the pilots" too.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #29 August 30, 2005 For free boogie beer, is Bradley Beer like you get at SkyDance probably the precedent in quality? What other beer is usually provided at boogies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #30 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhat other beer is usually provided at boogies? normally, miller lite, bud lite, or similar fare.... never seen them go big for beer brfore anywhere.... unless it is a private jumper buyng the beer, then ymmv ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #31 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuote So that was non-alcoholic or mixed drink in your cup at Davis? It was a well mixed drink. Did you see the pictures of its effects? I think I'll use a liitle less of the hard stuff next time though. With Vinnie around, I'll have to hide it anyway I'm a versatile drinker, depending on mood, food and selection. I'm snobbish enough though that I'll switch to water/juice/soda if the alcohol is of a really bad quality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #32 August 30, 2005 Eeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mcneill79 0 #33 August 30, 2005 QuoteEeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess.The beer at the Byron boogie will be good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #34 August 30, 2005 The reassurance is appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #35 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteEeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess.The beer at the Byron boogie will be good BEER GOOD! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #36 August 30, 2005 The Farm boogie was free AND had discounted jumps...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Girlfalldown 0 #37 August 30, 2005 QuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alanab 0 #38 August 30, 2005 QuoteYou'z the shiznit! yeah he is!! love ya spence! HIM HIM FUCK HIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #39 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! Like someone else posted most of the time the planes come with a minimum along with maybe fuel one way and tranport and lodging for the pilot.Bottom line if the boogie flops the organizer has to pay.On Thur. at the Dublin Boogie when it was raining,between the tents,planes,return fuel and other money that was spent I was about 12 grand in the hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #40 August 30, 2005 Quotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #41 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mcneill79 0 #42 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why??I prefer when people pay for me to get drunk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #43 August 30, 2005 Why have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #44 August 30, 2005 Beer: It was pointed out that the extra cost for beer is almost superfulous. Food: We need to eat ya know. Some, like Rookie who is flying out, can't exactly bring tons of food with him. There needs to be food to buy at the very least. Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Feeblemind 1 #45 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhy have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude. Well being a tourist I have noticed that most boogies include beer. The ones I have attended had micro borew and food. that's why I included it. maybe I can get a moderator to change the poll to say the heck with food and beer just bring us planes!! Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vdschoor 0 #46 August 30, 2005 Quote Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. He he.. well.. you know what? Some of the most badass boogies don't have tailgate aircraft either.. It's the people that make a boogie, cool airplanes are just extra... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #47 August 31, 2005 No boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Feeblemind 1 #48 August 31, 2005 QuoteNo boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes. What about aircraft JP? Not all DZ's have the planes and lift capacity that Perris has. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #49 August 31, 2005 A lot of ferry fees can be absorbed by the DZ if they plan and take ful advantace of the increased lift capasity. If a Cessna DZ is bringing in a Turbine then advertise to more jumpers then the local crowd and drum up lots of student business that weekend. No need to charge fees if the crowd size is large enough and the planes are coming in from close enough.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #50 August 31, 2005 I was thinking of the best times I ever had at SKyDance. Bonfires, burgers, dogs, and corn cooked by us on the DZ grill, and nothing but our local A/C. Ferried A/C are no big deal, once you exit it's all the same.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. 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vdschoor 0 #27 August 30, 2005 Quote Ferry fees vary due the distance traveled for ware and tear on the aircraft and the cost of the fuel for travel. The actual use of the aircraft during the boogie is $1 per person per 1,000 feet of lift and the DZO provides the fuel. If anyone else would like to provide further ferry/cost info lets have it. Some additional terms and conditions: If you get my plane for the boogie, it's x dollars per slot to x altitude.. for every 1000ft above that, it's x dollars extra per slot If you use my aircraft, you have to fly it for a minimum of x loads, preferable no less than 2 loads back to back.. If you want my aircraft for the boogie, it will be the primary aircraft, and you can not use your own until my aircraft is backed up x number of loads... etc etc etc etc. These are just random terms and conditions that are out there... it's not just flying the airplane out to your boogie and then get billed afterwards for the usage.. there are all sorts of minimums related to it usually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #28 August 30, 2005 Don't forget the "you must provide a Hotel and rental car or ride for the pilots" too.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #29 August 30, 2005 For free boogie beer, is Bradley Beer like you get at SkyDance probably the precedent in quality? What other beer is usually provided at boogies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #30 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhat other beer is usually provided at boogies? normally, miller lite, bud lite, or similar fare.... never seen them go big for beer brfore anywhere.... unless it is a private jumper buyng the beer, then ymmv ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #31 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuote So that was non-alcoholic or mixed drink in your cup at Davis? It was a well mixed drink. Did you see the pictures of its effects? I think I'll use a liitle less of the hard stuff next time though. With Vinnie around, I'll have to hide it anyway I'm a versatile drinker, depending on mood, food and selection. I'm snobbish enough though that I'll switch to water/juice/soda if the alcohol is of a really bad quality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #32 August 30, 2005 Eeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcneill79 0 #33 August 30, 2005 QuoteEeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess.The beer at the Byron boogie will be good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #34 August 30, 2005 The reassurance is appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #35 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteEeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess.The beer at the Byron boogie will be good BEER GOOD! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #36 August 30, 2005 The Farm boogie was free AND had discounted jumps...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Girlfalldown 0 #37 August 30, 2005 QuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alanab 0 #38 August 30, 2005 QuoteYou'z the shiznit! yeah he is!! love ya spence! HIM HIM FUCK HIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #39 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! Like someone else posted most of the time the planes come with a minimum along with maybe fuel one way and tranport and lodging for the pilot.Bottom line if the boogie flops the organizer has to pay.On Thur. at the Dublin Boogie when it was raining,between the tents,planes,return fuel and other money that was spent I was about 12 grand in the hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #40 August 30, 2005 Quotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CSpenceFLY 1 #41 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mcneill79 0 #42 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why??I prefer when people pay for me to get drunk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #43 August 30, 2005 Why have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #44 August 30, 2005 Beer: It was pointed out that the extra cost for beer is almost superfulous. Food: We need to eat ya know. Some, like Rookie who is flying out, can't exactly bring tons of food with him. There needs to be food to buy at the very least. Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Feeblemind 1 #45 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhy have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude. Well being a tourist I have noticed that most boogies include beer. The ones I have attended had micro borew and food. that's why I included it. maybe I can get a moderator to change the poll to say the heck with food and beer just bring us planes!! Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vdschoor 0 #46 August 30, 2005 Quote Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. He he.. well.. you know what? Some of the most badass boogies don't have tailgate aircraft either.. It's the people that make a boogie, cool airplanes are just extra... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #47 August 31, 2005 No boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Feeblemind 1 #48 August 31, 2005 QuoteNo boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes. What about aircraft JP? Not all DZ's have the planes and lift capacity that Perris has. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #49 August 31, 2005 A lot of ferry fees can be absorbed by the DZ if they plan and take ful advantace of the increased lift capasity. If a Cessna DZ is bringing in a Turbine then advertise to more jumpers then the local crowd and drum up lots of student business that weekend. No need to charge fees if the crowd size is large enough and the planes are coming in from close enough.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #50 August 31, 2005 I was thinking of the best times I ever had at SKyDance. Bonfires, burgers, dogs, and corn cooked by us on the DZ grill, and nothing but our local A/C. Ferried A/C are no big deal, once you exit it's all the same.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. 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Elisha 1 #34 August 30, 2005 The reassurance is appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #35 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteEeeeeewwwww! I think I might have to change my mind to the BYOB crowd. That Bradley spoiled me I guess.The beer at the Byron boogie will be good BEER GOOD! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #36 August 30, 2005 The Farm boogie was free AND had discounted jumps...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #37 August 30, 2005 QuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alanab 0 #38 August 30, 2005 QuoteYou'z the shiznit! yeah he is!! love ya spence! HIM HIM FUCK HIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #39 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteVery well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. So how did you get the planes out for that one? You did a great job by the way and it blows me away that you can "create" a dropzone like that and have such an insane turnout. You'z the shiznit! Like someone else posted most of the time the planes come with a minimum along with maybe fuel one way and tranport and lodging for the pilot.Bottom line if the boogie flops the organizer has to pay.On Thur. at the Dublin Boogie when it was raining,between the tents,planes,return fuel and other money that was spent I was about 12 grand in the hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #40 August 30, 2005 Quotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #41 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcneill79 0 #42 August 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotetoo bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... So I should have to pay for you to get drunk? And this is wrong why??I prefer when people pay for me to get drunk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #43 August 30, 2005 Why have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #44 August 30, 2005 Beer: It was pointed out that the extra cost for beer is almost superfulous. Food: We need to eat ya know. Some, like Rookie who is flying out, can't exactly bring tons of food with him. There needs to be food to buy at the very least. Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #45 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhy have you coupled the beer/food issue with the plane issue? I'd like the specialty aircraft, but don't care a hoot for the "free" beer (which is usually Bud or some similar bovine-urine taste-alike). Ditto on the food. I'm quite capable of providing my own food and drink but still need the help of an aircraft to get to altitude. Well being a tourist I have noticed that most boogies include beer. The ones I have attended had micro borew and food. that's why I included it. maybe I can get a moderator to change the poll to say the heck with food and beer just bring us planes!! Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #46 August 30, 2005 Quote Aircraft: DEFINITELY agree. One reason why I teased Iwan in the Events thread that it isn't a real boogie w/o a tailgate aircraft. He he.. well.. you know what? Some of the most badass boogies don't have tailgate aircraft either.. It's the people that make a boogie, cool airplanes are just extra... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #47 August 31, 2005 No boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #48 August 31, 2005 QuoteNo boogie fees. Beer by the case brought by jumpers. Who needs food, beer has food value, food has no beer value. Bonfires. Good vibes. What about aircraft JP? Not all DZ's have the planes and lift capacity that Perris has. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #49 August 31, 2005 A lot of ferry fees can be absorbed by the DZ if they plan and take ful advantace of the increased lift capasity. If a Cessna DZ is bringing in a Turbine then advertise to more jumpers then the local crowd and drum up lots of student business that weekend. No need to charge fees if the crowd size is large enough and the planes are coming in from close enough.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #50 August 31, 2005 I was thinking of the best times I ever had at SKyDance. Bonfires, burgers, dogs, and corn cooked by us on the DZ grill, and nothing but our local A/C. Ferried A/C are no big deal, once you exit it's all the same.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites