Feeblemind 1 #1 August 30, 2005 Just curious what everyone prefers. Obviously with fuel getting more expensive by the hour the DZO's are getting painted into a corner on ferry fees for aircraft. Everyone seems to enjoy the evening film fest showing the jumps made during the day (obviously most DZ's have to rent equipment to do this). The food and beer thin is also important though. Some folks come to the boogie just for the party. Please include your thoughts and opinions. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #2 August 30, 2005 Tail gate! Tail gate! Tail gate! Tail gate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #3 August 30, 2005 All of the above. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #4 August 30, 2005 Boogie fees should not include beer. It's totally unfair for anyone that doesn't drink beer. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #5 August 30, 2005 It kinda has to include beer , unless the DZ has a liquor license...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #6 August 30, 2005 Ah, yes. Agreed. I don't know why that didn't occur to me, since I don't drink beer. And if I want to go to McDonald's and spend $3 on dinner, then why should I be forced to spend $70 so I can eat some "fancy" shit? Keep the registration for the plane ferry fees (and entertainment, if any), but make the boogie B.Y.O.B. (and food). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #7 August 30, 2005 QuoteIt kinda has to include beer , unless the DZ has a liquor license... A DZ doesn't need a liquor license for you to provide beer for yourself. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #8 August 30, 2005 True, that would be better, bring your own stuff, (i dont drink beer, its yucky)Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #9 August 30, 2005 Sorry, gotta add to mine: or bring in the Carbones. Then you have food available, but people have a choice as to how to spend their money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #10 August 30, 2005 QuoteAnd if I want to go to McDonald's and spend $3 on dinner, then why should I be forced to spend $70 so I can eat some "fancy" shit? Keep the registration for the plane ferry fees (and entertainment, if any), but make the boogie B.Y.O.B. (and food). Yet another reason i love my SDC. They don't charge super high boogie fees to pay for beer or fancy food. With their boogie fees you get discounted jumps, usually some neat thing (most recently an awesome skydiving calendar), load organizing, sometimes coaching, and of course to help pay ferry fees for specialty aircraft. If you want food or beer, you supply it yourself. Or you can buy it there. I much prefer paying a lower boogie fee, than being ripped off for food and beer i don't use. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sebazz1 2 #11 August 30, 2005 I think the order of priority should be: 1.) Planes 2.) Cheap food Lowest.) As for the beer or booze, do it high school style where some folks buy a couple kegs of beer and sell cups for $2.00 or BYOB. I think you have to have some sort of BBQ or cook off every evening. A lot of folks who travel to a Boogie from a distance don't have the option or opportunity to bring in food to sutain them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #12 August 30, 2005 You can also have options like discounted meals if you register and pay the boogie fee. If you encourage people to buy tickets for food in advance, then whoever's providing the food has a better idea of how to estimate how much to bring. Having food available to buy is a benefit, though. As for alcohol, I'm cool with bring your own or buy from a bar (depending on the setup of the DZ, of course)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #13 August 30, 2005 QuoteBoogie fees should not include beer. It's totally unfair for anyone that doesn't drink beer. Ya know, I never even thought of that, which is odd, since I don't drink alcohol. Whatever, as long as I get free soda :)cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #14 August 30, 2005 I agree with Seb and Krisanne. Boogie fees go towards jumping. If you want food and booze, pre-reg with added cost and different wrist bands for those with the extras. I'm not a beer drinker either.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #15 August 30, 2005 I think your numbers are way off.Depending of course on the size of the event.Good food costs about $6-8 bucks a head.Run the numbers and really look at the amount of money you are talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #16 August 30, 2005 QuoteBoogie fees should not include beer. It's totally unfair for anyone that doesn't drink beer. too bad....you can buy liter coke for less than a buck... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #17 August 30, 2005 QuoteIf you want food or beer, you supply it yourself. Or you can buy it there. I much prefer paying a lower boogie fee, than being ripped off for food and beer i don't use. What she said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #18 August 30, 2005 QuoteI agree with Seb and Krisanne. Boogie fees go towards jumping. If you want food and booze, pre-reg with added cost and different wrist bands for those with the extras. I'm not a beer drinker either. So that was non-alcoholic or mixed drink in your cup at Davis? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #19 August 30, 2005 Why pay for food that you wouldn't eat if it were free? The boogie should bring enough extra business that modest ferrying of aircraft shouldn't cost extra. Here in NorCal, ferried boogie aircraft are often no different than those available locally, and loads are usually backed up more than normal jump weekends. Good to have more airplanes and people to do formation loads, otherwise what's the advantage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #20 August 30, 2005 Quote The boogie should bring enough extra business that modest ferrying of aircraft shouldn't cost extra. Here in NorCal, ferried boogie aircraft are often no different than those available locally, Where in NorCal are they jumping Casa's or Sky Vans? I believe the closest sky van is at perris. Also what do you think the ferry fees are that you consider them modest? Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #21 August 30, 2005 Hey quit yer damn bitching! The percentage of money that goes towards the beer in the boogie fee is usually like an extra dollar or something. As for the rest of it, I always thought a boogie was a way for the dropzone to say thank you to the people that give them all their money all year long and also to create a nice big buzz about the dropzone, get some publicity, etc. so more people will come visit. A lot of the times things get donated anyway. Paying an extra grand (or whatever it costs to bring another plane in, I really have no idea) shouldn't be such an ordeal. If you want to throw a big boogie then do it. Especially when all your locals are going out of their way to get their friends to come out and so many people are donating their time and effort AND money to make it big! I don't see why it's so hard for dropzones to help each other out too. We're all in this sport because we love it. Sure making some money off it is great but if it's at the expense of losing your locals is it really worth it? Sorry, didn't mean to rant. I would have chosen All of the above myself anyway. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #22 August 30, 2005 Very well put.The registration should go to the boogie and the party.Not to the pocket.When an existing DZ charges $40-50 bucks for a boogie fee it makes me do the math to see what they really spent on the boogie.I did Dublin last year for $30 and we build the DZ from scratch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #23 August 30, 2005 QuoteWhere in NorCal are they jumping Casa's or Sky Vans? I believe the closest sky van is at perris. Also what do you think the ferry fees are that you consider them modest? I was referring to the Byron boogie, which is advertising a King Air and a Twin Otter. Of course that boogie is worth it, just for the naked slip 'n slide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #24 August 30, 2005 Quote So that was non-alcoholic or mixed drink in your cup at Davis? It was a well mixed drink. Did you see the pictures of its effects? I think I'll use a liitle less of the hard stuff next time though. With Vinnie around, I'll have to hide it anyway50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #25 August 30, 2005 I also received from of the following information in regards to extra aircraft and their costs (please take it with a grain of salt as I have no means of validating it since I am not a DZO) Ferry fees vary due the distance traveled for ware and tear on the aircraft and the cost of the fuel for travel. The actual use of the aircraft during the boogie is $1 per person per 1,000 feet of lift and the DZO provides the fuel. If anyone else would like to provide further ferry/cost info lets have it. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
