jumpwally 0 #1 July 31, 2008 Anyone out there ever heard of an old para-commander being built out of F-111 or ZP ? Wonder how different the openings and flight would be ? Just curious.......and bored...smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
javelin1 0 #2 July 31, 2008 there was an rw pc but i think (not sure) that it was made of 1.5 oz ripstop .around 1973 or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #3 July 31, 2008 1974: Strong Starlite introduced. (inverted apex similar to a ParaCommander). 1976: added a slider to slow the openings. Edited to add: It was made of F-111"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 July 31, 2008 Some of the 1.5 oz fabrics used on heavy weight Para-Commanders were almost zero porosity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteS 0 #5 July 31, 2008 I jumped my RW PC a few years ago and BOOM! they open pretty hard but it landed well.. for a PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phildthedildo 0 #6 July 31, 2008 F111 did not exist in 1974 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phildthedildo 0 #7 July 31, 2008 1.5 oz fabric (known in the industry as 30/70)was 0-3 cfm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 July 31, 2008 QuoteF111 did not exist in 1974 I rechecked the Poynter Manual; It said "1.1 oz calendered fabric". I misread that as F-111, but noted that it generally says F-111 on the canopies that used it. Apparently, F-111 came out around 1980."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #9 August 1, 2008 Yep; F-111 was lighter weight than the fabric used for Starlites. I had a Starlite (loved it), and it was definitely heavier material. Just lighter than 2.2 oz. taffeta (PC fabric). Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #10 August 1, 2008 Paracommanders and similar canopies did indeed vary in their use of material - some heavy, some light, some a combination in different places. Eg, Gary Lewis' Paracommander Handbook says 2.2 oz taffeta for the basic Mk1 PC; 1.5 oz ripstop in 1977 onwards; 1.5 for the RW PC; while the Russian PC's included 1.1 ripstop too. How it all affected opening, I dunno. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #11 August 1, 2008 What weight are ZP, F-111, and whatever my old lopo reserve was made from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
