Feeblemind 1 #26 September 22, 2005 Quotedumped fuel? I'm not sure as I don't work on Airbus aircrafts, but I don't think these smaller airbus aircraft can dump fuel. I think they might be flying around Long Beach / LAX burning off fuel, not dumping the fuel. The heavier aircraft like 767 and 777 can because they can take off with much more fuel than they are allowed to land with so in emergency they dump fuel to lighten aircraft. I don't think these smaller Airbus aircraft can dump fuel? I might be wrong.. as I don't work on Airbus just the Boeing 767 & 777 who's systems I know pretty well.. The Airbus 320 does not have the capability to dump fuel. They have been flying around catallina in circles to burn off fuel. Also the all gear is down, but the nose gear is turned 90 degees from center line. They are going to want the plane to land before it gets dark in case there is an issue, the light will make it easier to evacuate the passengers Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #27 September 22, 2005 Will keeping the gear down like that burn fuel more quickly? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #28 September 22, 2005 Watching it live on Fox News from Iraq now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #29 September 22, 2005 These jets are designed to cruise at 30-40k, the are very inefficient at low altitude. and yes the gear creats drag so they will burn fuel at a greater rate. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #30 September 22, 2005 QuoteWill keeping the gear down like that burn fuel more quickly? yes, more drag, more fuel used Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #31 September 22, 2005 >>Anyone, anyone...Bueller...<< ValuJet? NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #32 September 22, 2005 QuoteDon't forget where JetBlue bought their planes from too. The company with over 57% market share? Shocking indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #33 September 22, 2005 > Will keeping the gear down like that burn fuel more quickly? Depends on the rest of the configuration - airspeed, speedbrake position etc. But generally yes. I remember being in a Challenger when its nosegear wouldn't retract. Pilots wouldn't tell us what was going on; we just knew we were circling, and they just gave us nasty looks when we asked them what was going on. We circled and landed uneventfully. Then they discovered the 'remove before flight' pin locking the nosegear down. Pilot got fired a week later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #34 September 22, 2005 QuoteThe nose wheel would not retract on takeoff. Looks like it rotated 90 degrees and jammed. They are going to try to bring it in on the main gear and keep the nose up as long as possible to minimize damage. problem with keeping nose gear up long as you can is you need longest runway you can get as you can't use the brakes, thrust reversers, spoliers, well maybe spoliers... so.. your going need apporach as slow as can then let it roll long as you can with nose up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #35 September 22, 2005 Here's she comes . . . LAX has every thing rolled out Nick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #36 September 22, 2005 >problem with keeping nose gear up long as you can is you need longest >runway you can get as you can't use the brakes, thrust reversers, spoliers . . IIRC, most larger jets have the spoilers linked to the weight-on-wheels switch during landing, to help prevent PIO's during botched landings (and to get you stopped a tad faster.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #37 September 22, 2005 He's over Catalina right now, they are planning a long swing over Newport, the tower wished them well. Looks like RWY 25 Right or Left at LAX. Cleared to land . . . NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #38 September 22, 2005 25R has over 12k feet of runway. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #39 September 22, 2005 So if they have to circle to burn fuel...why didn't they just go to New York??? _____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #40 September 22, 2005 good luck guysPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #41 September 22, 2005 Plane is down safe, nose gear helde, but no fire. Emergency proceedures are occuring, way to go pilot dude!!!! Preparing to evacuate the passengers. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #42 September 22, 2005 They have landed. And they are fineMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 September 22, 2005 WOO HOO the pilot did it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #44 September 22, 2005 wooooo hoooooo!!!!!!!!! great job to the pilots!!!!!!!!!!Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #45 September 22, 2005 QuoteWOO HOO the pilot did it.. Wonder what his pants look like?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #46 September 22, 2005 Impressive landingKeith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #48 September 22, 2005 That was fucking sweet... Kudos to the pilots!! Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 September 22, 2005 THe flame up of the front tires looked pretty interesting for a bit there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #50 September 22, 2005 "The passengers are in head down position..." That gave such an AWESOME visual!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
