Is Jump for the Cause on track?

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Is Jump for the Cause on track?

Follow the money trail……….

Jump for the Cause Estimated Accounting Summary 2005


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[Paige 0]

I sure hope everyone is on the right track. I know I'm working my butt off to raise the $$$moolaaah$$$.

I can't wait to see the total by my name go up after Tunnel For The Cause. We've raised over $800 so far!

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[mailin 0]

You love to stir shit don't you?

Arianna Frances

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Table has at least some errors. e.g., the Gross Income line under charity metrics does not equal the sum of the lines indicated, at least for the 1999 year.

All money raisers, or charities in general, have overhead expense. It should be pretty obvious that when jumps, suits, lodging, etc. are in the mix, the bottom line contribution is going to be less.

Anyway, I hope no one thinks all the bucks they are raising is going to research. If they wanted a higher percentage of what they send to go to the cause, they would skip some jumps and send all of the saved cash to the end user.

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[wildblue 7]

How is it 'stirring shit'? I think it's good someone wants to take their own time to hold a charity accountable.
That said, I don't think the numbers look terrible at first glance. Yeah, it's not the most efficient charity, but it gets a LOT of publicity. You could probably do more directly with your money by doing a 'walk for the cause' or whatever is in your area, but this event usually gets national coverage - that's worth a huge dollar amount IMHO.

EDIT: And I'm fairly certain your numbers are low. I think all the participants agree to raise a certain amount ($2,000? $2500?) and that isn't reflected in the totals yet. I think.

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[tigra 0]

I think Jen is still mad because Jan thought the calendar idea was sexist. I seem to recall a very heated discussion a while back.

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I think Jen is still mad because Jan thought the calendar idea was sexist. I seem to recall a very heated discussion a while back.

I have noticed at the dz the calendars aren't selling well. They even dropped the price down to $10 to try and sell more, and that didn't seem to help.

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[billvon 3,100]

>I have noticed at the dz the calendars aren't selling well.

Hmm, we've sold a lot here. Amy has maybe 4 left.

[sunshine 2]

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Hmm, we've sold a lot here. Amy has maybe 4 left.

Maybe people around here are scared of 1/2 dressed women.

Anyhoo, does anyone know more about where the money goes? Like is the whole breast cancer research one big organization? I posted last week about 50 cents from the special pink M&M bags goes to the breast cancer research and am wondering if it's all the same place. If i gotta eat more M&Ms to help out, i'll be happy to.

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meow

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Skydiving is an expensive hobby. Jumpsuits and jumps for 160 women plus food & lodging for them for several days is bound to eat up more of the donations than other possible fundraising activities.

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Dave

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[tigra 0]

In the past we've also sent a larger contingent of "regulars" to JFTC than we are this year. That may be part of it.

[mailin 0]

You're incorrect. Out of the 2000 calendars order, there are 100 left.

We sold them to the girls for an introductory price of $5 - they were to sell them for $30.

After the introductory period we raised the price to $10 - which is the price the girls sell them for.

As far as the issues with Jan - she seems to really enjoy nitpicking at Kate's hard work associated with JFTC.

I won't even get into what she did with our calendar.


Jen

Arianna Frances

[billvon 3,100]

>Maybe people around here are scared of 1/2 dressed women.

Amy got some funny responses when selling them at work. One guy thought it was great. "So you want one?" she asked him. "Oh, right, like I could take that home," he said.

>Like is the whole breast cancer research one big organization?

Proceeds go to the City of Hope, a cancer research and treatment organization.

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OK, I thought I was supposed to sell the calendars for $30, even though I bought them for $10. From your note, it looks like I should have been selling them for $10?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[tigra 0]

Unless you've been monitoring the sales at our dz, you can't tell Sunshine she's incorrect. The participants purchased the calendars so as far as you're concerned, they sold well. How well they are doing REselling the calendars is a different story. Apparently, at SDC the initial price tag was a bit too steep. I know we did other fundraising to support our local jumpers. I just hope the people who needed the contributions the most didn't end up with a lot of calendars they couldn't sell.

And I think Jan's made enough contributions to the sport and previous records that maybe she's earned the right to some nit picking. Maybe you should leave that to Kate and Jan to work out for themselves. Just a thought.................

[riddler 0]

I think it's great that effort is being made, even if the percentages don't look as ideal as possible. In fact, I've been thinking about doing a similar skydiving event for men to raise awareness of prostate cancer. I figure I can sell latex gloves and instruction booklets for prostate self-exams. I doubt my percentages will be as good as JFTC's.

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FYI, Jan's been the unofficial watchdog of JFTC since the first WWR they organized in 1999.

She was on both the '99 and '02 records as well.

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Unless you've been monitoring the sales at our dz, you can't tell Sunshine she's incorrect.

Thank you Tigra. I know a bit more of whats going on at our DZ than Jen does. Maybe if some of our local girls were in the calendar they'd sell better. All i do know is they didn't seem to be a hit at SDC. The block party on the other hand rocked!! I would so donate to have one of those again!!

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I sure hope everyone is on the right track. I know I'm working my butt off to raise the $$$moolaaah$$$.

I can't wait to see the total by my name go up after Tunnel For The Cause. We've raised over $800 so far!

There is so much of this "what's in it for me" stuff that it is hard to keep track of.
"Do I get a prize for raising more money than anyone else?"

Of the $800, how much actually goes to City of Hope for Cancer research?

You get a free jumpsuit, free meals, free jumps, free accommodations, pay a little to management and fundraising expenses and whatever is leftover goes to City of Hope. That's about $424 that goes to City of Hope.

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You love to stir shit don't you?

And you love to put my picture on the cover of your calendar.
I'm the middle person in first row of 3 yellow jumpsuits on
http://www.gaiasrose.org/calendar.html

I'll never sign a photo release again without a clause to approve the final use of my image. I am disappointed that a WWR photo, one that I am in, has been used for such a purpose as to perpetuate the stereotype beliefs that women exist for their sex appeal. I have to explain why I am in a calendar that sexualizes women skydivers when my intent of every WWR that I have been a part of has strived to elevate the status of women jumpers based upon their skydiving skill.

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Gross Income line under charity metrics does not equal the sum of the lines indicated, at least for the 1999 year.

That was a typo. Gross income uses line 10b, not line 12.

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And I'm fairly certain your numbers are low. I think all the participants agree to raise a certain amount ($2,000? $2500?) and that isn't reflected in the totals yet. I think.

The numbers donated are taken directly from the fund-raising page stats on jftc.

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Anyhoo, does anyone know more about where the money goes? Like is the whole breast cancer research one big organization? I posted last week about 50 cents from the special pink M&M bags goes to the breast cancer research and am wondering if it's all the same place. If i gotta eat more M&Ms to help out, i'll be happy to.

The whole breast cancer research is NOT one big organization. You can read more about who does what and for how much at:
http://thinkbeforeyoupink.org/
http://www.bcaction.org/

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You're incorrect. Out of the 2000 calendars order, there are 100 left.

We sold them to the girls for an introductory price of $5 - they were to sell them for $30.

After the introductory period we raised the price to $10 - which is the price the girls sell them for.

As far as the issues with Jan - she seems to really enjoy nitpicking at Kate's hard work associated with JFTC.

I won't even get into what she did with our calendar.

I was under the impression that the $5 was to cover the printing costs. You raised $7000 for printing via a raffle, all the while saying 'it was for a good cause' when in reality it was to pay for printing costs. Why do the women on JFTC even have to pay $5 for the printing costs - isn't that already paid? Doubling the wholesale cost is because????

Kate, Tony, Mallory and Richard do a lot of hard work for JFTC. The reality is that the numbers, based on what is presented on the JFTC web site, show a flailing effort. Two weeks out, I doubt anything I say or do will have any effect, except for getting the affluent women to pay their way. For those women that can pay for their jumps, meals, motel and jumpsuit, pay your way. Then JFTC will have better numbers. I know of two S. Cal jumpers that are doing this.

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Amy got some funny responses when selling them at work. One guy thought it was great. "So you want one?" she asked him. "Oh, right, like I could take that home," he said.

I doubt that many businesses would allow the JFTC calendar to be displayed in the work place. I think a lot of wives would also object to having the calendar displayed in their home. What does that tell you?

I know that JFTC did not produce the calendar, but they do endorse it by providing links to it. The calendar is a great erotica calendar. It is inappropriate for endorsement of a Women's World Record in Skydiving.

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And I think Jan's made enough contributions to the sport and previous records that maybe she's earned the right to some nit picking. Maybe you should leave that to Kate and Jan to work out for themselves. Just a thought.................

What I have done or not done in skydiving has little relevance to this. It is my personal beliefs that come into play here. Long before I started jumping, I had strong feelings about what women can and cannot do. I never liked the wanted ads for jobs listed by 'men' or 'women'. I never liked the fact that women were not 'allowed' in the military academies when I was going off to college.

Times have changed, These throw-back events should be stomped out. Some of the things JFTC does or endorses and the calendar in particular, undermines the advances that women have gained in the past 30 years.

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FYI, Jan's been the unofficial watchdog of JFTC since the first WWR they organized in 1999.

She was on both the '99 and '02 records as well.

Hey, I thought I was the 'official' watchdog!

BTW, I was also on the 2000 JFTC event too.

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I have noticed at the dz the calendars aren't selling well. They even dropped the price down to $10 to try and sell more, and that didn't seem to help.

I've seen them selling well. Seems some guys can't resist a good looking woman.

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[wildblue 7]

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The calendar is a great erotica calendar.

I wouldn't even call it that.

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[Paige 0]

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I sure hope everyone is on the right track. I know I'm working my butt off to raise the $$$moolaaah$$$.

I can't wait to see the total by my name go up after Tunnel For The Cause. We've raised over $800 so far!

There is so much of this "what's in it for me" stuff that it is hard to keep track of.
"Do I get a prize for raising more money than anyone else?"

Of the $800, how much actually goes to City of Hope for Cancer research?

You get a free jumpsuit, free meals, free jumps, free accommodations, pay a little to management and fundraising expenses and whatever is leftover goes to City of Hope. That's about $424 that goes to City of Hope.

If you bothered to go to the site you'd see that 100% of profits are going to JFTC. We are paying for our own tunnel time and fundraising in addition. No suits or any expenses like the jump here.

Oh, and we're over $1000 now

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I sure hope everyone is on the right track. I know I'm working my butt off to raise the $$$moolaaah$$$.

I can't wait to see the total by my name go up after Tunnel For The Cause. We've raised over $800 so far!

Paige, thats awesome! Keep up the good work! You totally deserve to have your efforts recognized. Every dollar raised helps.

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Thanks Kitty I've dumpped so much of my own $ into this event just so I can donate 100% of the profits to JFTC. I've paid for the goodie bags and all kinds of decorations. Raffle tix were donated so we didn't have to pay for those either, thanks to Ari
It's been good so far I hope it continues. I would never take $ from the fundraiser to cover expenses since i only required $150 of fundraising and our expenses are nill.

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You get a free jumpsuit, free meals, free jumps, free accommodations, pay a little to management and fundraising expenses and whatever is leftover goes to City of Hope.

I'm gonna just flat out ask, because this didn't get addressed earlier: aren't participants required to raise a certain amount? Presumably slightly over what everything costs? Either by fund-raising or straight out of their own pocket?

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality