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Rebecca

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Eh, most parts of TX ain't that bad, hell I've lived here for all of my life and never seen someone with a gun outside of their house or a gun range.

If you get too far away from the city there's plenty of trigger-happy rednecks though. :P



I think you would be truly surprised how many people carry guns. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. Carrying a concealed handgun in Texas is a felony if you don't have a permit. That motivates people to keep them well out of sight.

If you do have a permit, the law requires you to keep it concealed from view.

Walt



Yep, I knew that. As long as they keep them out of sight, they don't bother me at all. ;)

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The doctor is IN.
Mis-assumption: Those who are assertive talk shit and vent anger.



I don't assume that at all. What I DO assume is that any non-handicapped person who appoints themselves as the handicapped parking space police has some sort of axe to grind. IMO, that isn't being assertive--it's being some form of aggressive.

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I someone goes looking for trouble, they will generally find it. It's a bad idea.

Walt

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Rebecca....not to get on your case but that wasn't assertiveness...it was angry reaction.



OK, I can buy what you and Walt are saying, though I did not lose control. That would have involved a finger or two and a possible verbal exchange.

So, what's assertiveness? Where's the line between zenly letting things go and being a "see-no-evil" passivist?

I have this struggle every day. I NEVER confront people - today was about as extreme as it gets. How do you just not let things bother you? I don't think it's my nature - I get upset when I stand by and do nothing, but everyone always just blithely says "let it go".

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you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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I think if you really want to be assertive, it would best serve you in other situations.

Such as when someone asks you to do something that you KNOW you do not have the time or desire to do. Be assertive and tell them no.

Or is a saleman is really pushing to get you to buy something...be assertive and say no.

Or if someone owes you money but has been dodging paying it back. Be assertive and ask directly. Or ask thme to give you at least some of it and then follow up later.

Those are probably some less dangerous ways to assert yourself.
Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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>I gave him instructions in sign language:....

I hope you did it with that pretty smile of yours.

Reminds me though of an incident I had when I was younger.

Was hitch hiking and got beat up...turns out I was using the wrong finger.

Cheers to ya girl. Love the smile, liked the eyes as well.

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I don't assume that at all. What I DO assume is that any non-handicapped person who appoints themselves as the handicapped parking space police has some sort of axe to grind.


Mis-assumption: any non-handicapped person who appoints themselves as the handicapped parking space police has some sort of axe to grind.

Not true, Walt (well maybe in my case wrto my sister).
It's funny how those who do not have any direct connection to the problem quite often ignore the problem or pretend it doesn't exist. That's called apathy in one context of the word.

Sorry 'bout the earlier - 'twas uncalled for.

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IMO, that isn't being assertive--it's being some form of aggressive.


Given your assumption, I would agree.

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edited to add:
I someone goes looking for trouble, they will generally find it. It's a bad idea.


Yes, again, I agree.

What I'm hearing you say Walt is that anything other than turning a blind eye is wrong and will get one into trouble.

It IS possible to discuss things with people, and rectify problems, without:
A) putting them on the defensive
B) instigating an outburst of anger
C) "getting into trouble"

Assertiveness is none of those things. And what IS assertiveness? I'm no teacher. I would venture: the ability to impose one's will without generating ill will on others.

One reference for assertiveness:
http://www.tsuccess.dircon.co.uk/assertivenesstraining.htm
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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I was not even yelling at a car. I just stopped cause I thought they wanted to pass me. Instead, they drive by yelling and screaming. then I passed them again as one dude got out and started running after my car (I was in a residental lot driving slow) and spitting at me.



I would drive just fast enough to stay just a little bit ahead of him, but not get so far away that he gave up hope of catching me. And then see how far I could string him along.

So, how many miles did you get him to run before he finally gave up?

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I was not even yelling at a car. I just stopped cause I thought they wanted to pass me. Instead, they drive by yelling and screaming. then I passed them again as one dude got out and started running after my car (I was in a residental lot driving slow) and spitting at me.



I would drive just fast enough to stay just a little bit ahead of him, but not get so far away that he gave up hope of catching me. And then see how far I could string him along.

So, how many miles did you get him to run before he finally gave up?



eh, he didn't run for very long. But I was in an unfamilar apartment complex where i did not know the exits and there were 4 of them. they probably had friends there to (I didn't, wrong turn).

So I played it smart and drove away.
Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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...I would drive just fast enough to stay just a little bit ahead of him, but not get so far away that he gave up hope of catching me. And then see how far I could string him along.



:D:D:D
One side note:
Best done with a full tank of gas in a high-mileage vehicle....
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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What I'm hearing you say Walt is that anything other than turning a blind eye is wrong and will get one into trouble.



Actually, I'm more of a mind to choose my battles (even small ones) carefully. Illegal handicapped parking and overages in the express line don't even come close to being worth my while. Someone who parks in my reserved space--now that gets my attention. Seeing a serious crime in progress would get my attention too.

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It IS possible to discuss things with people, and rectify problems, without:
A) putting them on the defensive
B) instigating an outburst of anger
C) "getting into trouble"



I agree.

Walt

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...Actually, I'm more of a mind to choose my battles (even small ones) carefully...

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Very wise...very wise. I could stand to use some more wisdom in my choices.

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Illegal handicapped parking and overages in the express line don't even come close to being worth my while.

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So agreed, it's a pick and choose decision...we all have our choices on what to address and what to ignore.

As for Rebecca, standing up for yourself is one good thing, being prepared to cope with the results of your approach is another.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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