Andy_Copland 0 #1 July 7, 2008 Can someone explain in detail or show me pictures of how the spring is compressed to get the flaps closed etc?1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 July 7, 2008 You just sit on it Use a long packing cord or piece of line, this goes through the pilotchute, now compress pilotchute, hold it down firmly (I use my knees) while closing the rig. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #3 July 7, 2008 That simple huh? OK im gonna have a play and see what i can do. When its done i'll pull silver and see if anything happens. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #4 July 7, 2008 Hmm i was talking about main spring pilot chutes, not sure if the same simple technique should be used for reserves ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #5 July 7, 2008 No im talking reserves, but hey what works for one... not like im jumping it.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 July 7, 2008 Look at the manual for the rig, each one needs to be packed differently. Some need material pushed inside the spring coils, others do not. Sit down with a rigger when you take the rig to get repacked and watch how he closes it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #7 July 7, 2008 No manual or even a packing card Eric, just an old Flexon with a temp 120 that im sick of seeing all unpacked. Its like an OCD thing i think i have with canopies laying around.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 July 7, 2008 If it's for your free rig, download the manual for instructions. Parachute Manuals Dot Com It won't really show you details how to physically close it but it will show you what order etc. When you get to the part where you compress the spring, you must have a pull up cord (long piece of line) from the bottom of the PC through the hole in the top (the grommet ). A 22 caliber rifle cleaning rod is good for this. Once the line is in place and PC ready to collapse, bite the line then start at the bottom of the pc and just compress it putting the fabric inside the coils. If you don't have a knee plate, use your foot and pull the closing loop on through. Put a temp pin into the loop without stabbing between your toes and let go. Continue on through the flaps one at a time in the proper order... or improper since you're just messing around. Expect to lose control of the pilot chute a time or 2 Good luck Edit, Talon 2 instructions will work well enough for the FlexonMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #9 July 7, 2008 Spot on, thank you very much.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #10 July 7, 2008 This the difficult (getting the pilot chute compressed) part of a reserve packing. The best is to do it with somebody else holding the base of the spring well centered then you apply pressure progressively on the top of the pilot chute. When cpmpressed with preferably two hands maintain the pressure while the other person places on the top of the pilot chute a special board where a sort of slot is cut off to allow the closing loop to be pulled. Then (this is what I do) I use my positive leverage device in action by rolling the pull cord around it. When the pull cord is maintained tight by the leverage device the other person can stop applying pressure on the top of the pilot chute. Increase the force on the pull cord by rotating the device. Remove the temporary pin from under the pilot chute to place it thru the loop above the pilot chute. Then you can relax a little bit. Several riggers don't use a positive leverage device, they rather use only their feet or knees to apply pressure on the pilot chute while pulling at the closing loop. After a while you get the trick to do it alone but expect to get some pilot chute launches in the face. I have seen some riggers using a strap placed around the shoulders and chest to apply tension on the pull cord while having their hands on the top of the pilot chute. There are 2 sorts of pilot chute springs. The long ones which are not too strong but try to bend and escape sideways like the Quasar II or Mirage... and shorter strong ones which are easier to keep centered but which have a pressure going up to 45 lbs like the Vector. Is that answer your question?Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #11 July 7, 2008 Its a good answer and the more techniques i hear the better. Thank you.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #12 July 7, 2008 We need video if your going to pack your Flexon with only the manual and no training!You might make it. But the Master Rigger than trained me, when he first got student rigs with square reserves, tried for two weeks to get one in. Came to me to see how to do it. Took me 20 minutes, total pack and close, (no inspection and easy two pin) And he'd pack thousands of spring loaded PC's. That's not the hard part. The hard part is getting the thing in the bag and into the container. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #13 July 7, 2008 Already had the PC hit me in the lip. I'm gonna get this bitch and video the glorious moment, does it have to look like it will work though? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #14 July 7, 2008 Hell, that's ALL we riggers go for, so that it LOOKS like it will work!Yes, I'm kidding. But I have opened many rigs because I didn't like the way they looked. They would have worked fine. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 July 7, 2008 Quote I'm gonna get this bitch and video the glorious moment, does it have to look like it will work though? The following is advice for a main pilot chute only. I zig-zag fold and stack the bridle and place it on top of the deployment bag. Then I place the base of the pilot chute on top of that bridle. Next, I compress the pilot chute, one loop of the spring at a time, starting from the bottom, by putting my hand inside the loop and pressing it downward. Stuff the loose fabric inside the loop as you go, evenly all the way around. Work your way up to the top like that, one coil at a time. Then put your knee on top of it to hold it in place while you get your pull-up cord through the flaps to close it. You don't want the bridle to have a chance to half-hitch with the pilot chute fabric and pinch it off. And you don't want the pilot chute fabric stuffed underneath after it's compressed, because that then retards the expansion of the spring from it's own force. I'm not a rigger. I know squat about packing a reserve. This is how I've done my main spring-loaded pilot chute for 5,000 jumps. I've had very few problems with this technique. Maybe just one, to be exact. You don't want it to just LOOK like it will work. After closing the flaps, pull the ripcord and see how vigorously the pilot chute launches. That way you will KNOW that it will work when you're in the air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mircan 0 #16 July 8, 2008 That`s how I do it too. Piece of cake. dudeist skydiver #42 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
