katzurki 0 #1 October 10, 2005 Out of curiosity, what is the reason my canopy appears tilted to the right on the "flare.jpg" shot? Uneven flare, or harness shift, or...? Hands appear to be on the same level, and the landing was as gentle as it normally is. There was no wind at all. Did not notice anything unusual during the flare. The other file is of no relation. I just like this shot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #2 October 10, 2005 The right hand looks a good bit lower than the left to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #3 October 10, 2005 it looks like uneven flare to me. my first thought when i say the first shot was "pull left toggle down a little"I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #4 October 10, 2005 I was thinking since I am sideways from the photographer, the position of the hands is a matter of perspective. *goes to read tricks about evenning one's flare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #5 October 10, 2005 Try flaring straight down IN THE MIDDLE, as opposed to out to the sides. It's how I evened mine out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #6 October 10, 2005 To clarify on the perspective thing, in the other shot, would you say my right hand is higher than my left hand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #7 October 10, 2005 No. Trsut me, in that first pic, your right hand is lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #8 October 10, 2005 It's not a biggie in this pic, but yes it's not an even flare. One side (the right side if this pic was taken from behind) is ever so slightly lower than the other side. First off make sure your chest strap is loosened up as much as you can make it after you open, but then try leaning forward a little when you flare if you're not already doing. Plus unless you're landing in a reasonably strong cross-wind, be symetrical with both toggles. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #9 October 10, 2005 Wonder if I always do that. No "side gusts" or anything, though. Will try to bring toggles down in the middle next weekend. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #10 October 10, 2005 Chest strap: yes, always Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 10, 2005 QuoteWhat is to be achieved by leaning forward? Your center of balance is directly below the wing when you lean forward and there is less chance that you'll get yourself into trouble as opposed to leaning backwards when you flare. Look at the swoopers/good canopy pilots around you and you will see that they are leaning forward into their chest strap when they flare. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ccowden 0 #12 October 10, 2005 Your arms, body and legs are all leaning right. A little bit of each of those inputs will have drastic effects on the flight. It is really less about an even flare and more about keeping your canopy straight. Many times what a pilot will do is lean towards the turn and make it worse. It is a natural reaction, just like putting your hand out to catch yourself when falling. Resist that urge. Sometimes you may need to have a very "uneven" flare to keep your canopy flying straight. It can be because of body position, wind, or many other small factors. Think less about flaring even and more about flying the canopy to the ground. Obviously you want an even flare, but I am talking about once the canopy starts to drift. You have the control, use it. Think about if a pilot just aimed the plane at the ground, flared, and made no further corrections. Never stop flying. When you feel it drifting, correct with a little opposite input. Avoid the natural reaction to go with the turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #13 October 10, 2005 Yup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #14 October 10, 2005 QuoteYup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg. Yeah I noticed that right away too.. Both your right leg and right hand are lower. That is the reason your canopy is leaning over.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #15 October 10, 2005 Yeah. Bad. I'll need to have my landings filmed more often, but it's always so hard to cajole somebody, the damn guys are always jumping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 October 10, 2005 so did you stand that landing up? the important thing is that you fly the thing until it has no more speed in it. I assume you did well on the landing. but you look very uneven (favoring your right side) lots of good suggestions here already. no need for me to echo themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #17 October 11, 2005 I'd like to add a great article by Skratch Garrison.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #18 October 11, 2005 Uneven flare, and you're tilted in the harness. Other than that, I can't tell as I don't know what you were doing prior to this shot.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #19 October 11, 2005 I have done this before... both intentionally and unintentionally. I now know how to flare turn up to ten degrees to compensate. Also landed crosswind twice and flare turned during that. Sometime around jump 70, I did have a crazy unintentional flare turn oscillation (left 5, right 5, left 5 degrees) when my brake lines got replaced and I was not used to the new flare "range" due to longer brake lines, because I kept flare turning to compensate for an accidental asymmetric turn, and kept overshooting left and right as I came in to touchdown. Landed soft, but it really tensed me up when I did that, and my instructor told me to be careful! (I was a bit freaked even though I landed soft). But it did show I can flare/flat turn. Very important stuff. Avoid those low turns but I have to be able to comfortably avoid obstacles low. Only time I needed to do so was flat-turn curve my landing leg to avoid getting too close to a treeline (20 degree slow flat turn or so) because people were landing in more than one different direction on a zero-wind day and I wanted to avoid them. Wasn't worried since I am comfortable with my canopy's flat turning abilities now. Needless to say, the dropzone removed the pea-bowl windsock for the rest of the day and ordered landing in a single direction. ;-) Eventually I'll be able to flare turn 30-45 degrees (I probably can in an emergency now) and the like, but only do it "intentionally" when I'm ready to try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #20 October 11, 2005 I would worry about your rig... what do you call that thing on your back and what do feed it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #21 October 11, 2005 lol FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #22 October 11, 2005 It would appear that your right hand is lower then the left. What will help you with this is to get your hands in closer to your body so its easier to feel where your hands are in relation to each other. Just because all the swoopers put their arms out and back doesn't mean that its a good technique for everyone...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #23 October 11, 2005 Read and weep . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #24 October 11, 2005 Still think that rig is cool as hell... How is the "fur" holding up on that thing anyway? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteRead and weep . hum... to each his own.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kelel01 1 #2 October 10, 2005 The right hand looks a good bit lower than the left to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #3 October 10, 2005 it looks like uneven flare to me. my first thought when i say the first shot was "pull left toggle down a little"I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #4 October 10, 2005 I was thinking since I am sideways from the photographer, the position of the hands is a matter of perspective. *goes to read tricks about evenning one's flare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #5 October 10, 2005 Try flaring straight down IN THE MIDDLE, as opposed to out to the sides. It's how I evened mine out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #6 October 10, 2005 To clarify on the perspective thing, in the other shot, would you say my right hand is higher than my left hand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #7 October 10, 2005 No. Trsut me, in that first pic, your right hand is lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #8 October 10, 2005 It's not a biggie in this pic, but yes it's not an even flare. One side (the right side if this pic was taken from behind) is ever so slightly lower than the other side. First off make sure your chest strap is loosened up as much as you can make it after you open, but then try leaning forward a little when you flare if you're not already doing. Plus unless you're landing in a reasonably strong cross-wind, be symetrical with both toggles. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #9 October 10, 2005 Wonder if I always do that. No "side gusts" or anything, though. Will try to bring toggles down in the middle next weekend. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #10 October 10, 2005 Chest strap: yes, always Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 10, 2005 QuoteWhat is to be achieved by leaning forward? Your center of balance is directly below the wing when you lean forward and there is less chance that you'll get yourself into trouble as opposed to leaning backwards when you flare. Look at the swoopers/good canopy pilots around you and you will see that they are leaning forward into their chest strap when they flare. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ccowden 0 #12 October 10, 2005 Your arms, body and legs are all leaning right. A little bit of each of those inputs will have drastic effects on the flight. It is really less about an even flare and more about keeping your canopy straight. Many times what a pilot will do is lean towards the turn and make it worse. It is a natural reaction, just like putting your hand out to catch yourself when falling. Resist that urge. Sometimes you may need to have a very "uneven" flare to keep your canopy flying straight. It can be because of body position, wind, or many other small factors. Think less about flaring even and more about flying the canopy to the ground. Obviously you want an even flare, but I am talking about once the canopy starts to drift. You have the control, use it. Think about if a pilot just aimed the plane at the ground, flared, and made no further corrections. Never stop flying. When you feel it drifting, correct with a little opposite input. Avoid the natural reaction to go with the turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #13 October 10, 2005 Yup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #14 October 10, 2005 QuoteYup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg. Yeah I noticed that right away too.. Both your right leg and right hand are lower. That is the reason your canopy is leaning over.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #15 October 10, 2005 Yeah. Bad. I'll need to have my landings filmed more often, but it's always so hard to cajole somebody, the damn guys are always jumping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 October 10, 2005 so did you stand that landing up? the important thing is that you fly the thing until it has no more speed in it. I assume you did well on the landing. but you look very uneven (favoring your right side) lots of good suggestions here already. no need for me to echo themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #17 October 11, 2005 I'd like to add a great article by Skratch Garrison.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #18 October 11, 2005 Uneven flare, and you're tilted in the harness. Other than that, I can't tell as I don't know what you were doing prior to this shot.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #19 October 11, 2005 I have done this before... both intentionally and unintentionally. I now know how to flare turn up to ten degrees to compensate. Also landed crosswind twice and flare turned during that. Sometime around jump 70, I did have a crazy unintentional flare turn oscillation (left 5, right 5, left 5 degrees) when my brake lines got replaced and I was not used to the new flare "range" due to longer brake lines, because I kept flare turning to compensate for an accidental asymmetric turn, and kept overshooting left and right as I came in to touchdown. Landed soft, but it really tensed me up when I did that, and my instructor told me to be careful! (I was a bit freaked even though I landed soft). But it did show I can flare/flat turn. Very important stuff. Avoid those low turns but I have to be able to comfortably avoid obstacles low. Only time I needed to do so was flat-turn curve my landing leg to avoid getting too close to a treeline (20 degree slow flat turn or so) because people were landing in more than one different direction on a zero-wind day and I wanted to avoid them. Wasn't worried since I am comfortable with my canopy's flat turning abilities now. Needless to say, the dropzone removed the pea-bowl windsock for the rest of the day and ordered landing in a single direction. ;-) Eventually I'll be able to flare turn 30-45 degrees (I probably can in an emergency now) and the like, but only do it "intentionally" when I'm ready to try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #20 October 11, 2005 I would worry about your rig... what do you call that thing on your back and what do feed it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #21 October 11, 2005 lol FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #22 October 11, 2005 It would appear that your right hand is lower then the left. What will help you with this is to get your hands in closer to your body so its easier to feel where your hands are in relation to each other. Just because all the swoopers put their arms out and back doesn't mean that its a good technique for everyone...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #23 October 11, 2005 Read and weep . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #24 October 11, 2005 Still think that rig is cool as hell... How is the "fur" holding up on that thing anyway? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteRead and weep . hum... to each his own.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
katzurki 0 #10 October 10, 2005 Chest strap: yes, always Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 10, 2005 QuoteWhat is to be achieved by leaning forward? Your center of balance is directly below the wing when you lean forward and there is less chance that you'll get yourself into trouble as opposed to leaning backwards when you flare. Look at the swoopers/good canopy pilots around you and you will see that they are leaning forward into their chest strap when they flare. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ccowden 0 #12 October 10, 2005 Your arms, body and legs are all leaning right. A little bit of each of those inputs will have drastic effects on the flight. It is really less about an even flare and more about keeping your canopy straight. Many times what a pilot will do is lean towards the turn and make it worse. It is a natural reaction, just like putting your hand out to catch yourself when falling. Resist that urge. Sometimes you may need to have a very "uneven" flare to keep your canopy flying straight. It can be because of body position, wind, or many other small factors. Think less about flaring even and more about flying the canopy to the ground. Obviously you want an even flare, but I am talking about once the canopy starts to drift. You have the control, use it. Think about if a pilot just aimed the plane at the ground, flared, and made no further corrections. Never stop flying. When you feel it drifting, correct with a little opposite input. Avoid the natural reaction to go with the turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #13 October 10, 2005 Yup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #14 October 10, 2005 QuoteYup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg. Yeah I noticed that right away too.. Both your right leg and right hand are lower. That is the reason your canopy is leaning over.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #15 October 10, 2005 Yeah. Bad. I'll need to have my landings filmed more often, but it's always so hard to cajole somebody, the damn guys are always jumping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 October 10, 2005 so did you stand that landing up? the important thing is that you fly the thing until it has no more speed in it. I assume you did well on the landing. but you look very uneven (favoring your right side) lots of good suggestions here already. no need for me to echo themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #17 October 11, 2005 I'd like to add a great article by Skratch Garrison.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #18 October 11, 2005 Uneven flare, and you're tilted in the harness. Other than that, I can't tell as I don't know what you were doing prior to this shot.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #19 October 11, 2005 I have done this before... both intentionally and unintentionally. I now know how to flare turn up to ten degrees to compensate. Also landed crosswind twice and flare turned during that. Sometime around jump 70, I did have a crazy unintentional flare turn oscillation (left 5, right 5, left 5 degrees) when my brake lines got replaced and I was not used to the new flare "range" due to longer brake lines, because I kept flare turning to compensate for an accidental asymmetric turn, and kept overshooting left and right as I came in to touchdown. Landed soft, but it really tensed me up when I did that, and my instructor told me to be careful! (I was a bit freaked even though I landed soft). But it did show I can flare/flat turn. Very important stuff. Avoid those low turns but I have to be able to comfortably avoid obstacles low. Only time I needed to do so was flat-turn curve my landing leg to avoid getting too close to a treeline (20 degree slow flat turn or so) because people were landing in more than one different direction on a zero-wind day and I wanted to avoid them. Wasn't worried since I am comfortable with my canopy's flat turning abilities now. Needless to say, the dropzone removed the pea-bowl windsock for the rest of the day and ordered landing in a single direction. ;-) Eventually I'll be able to flare turn 30-45 degrees (I probably can in an emergency now) and the like, but only do it "intentionally" when I'm ready to try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #20 October 11, 2005 I would worry about your rig... what do you call that thing on your back and what do feed it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #21 October 11, 2005 lol FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #22 October 11, 2005 It would appear that your right hand is lower then the left. What will help you with this is to get your hands in closer to your body so its easier to feel where your hands are in relation to each other. Just because all the swoopers put their arms out and back doesn't mean that its a good technique for everyone...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #23 October 11, 2005 Read and weep . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #24 October 11, 2005 Still think that rig is cool as hell... How is the "fur" holding up on that thing anyway? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteRead and weep . hum... to each his own.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 10, 2005 QuoteWhat is to be achieved by leaning forward? Your center of balance is directly below the wing when you lean forward and there is less chance that you'll get yourself into trouble as opposed to leaning backwards when you flare. Look at the swoopers/good canopy pilots around you and you will see that they are leaning forward into their chest strap when they flare. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #12 October 10, 2005 Your arms, body and legs are all leaning right. A little bit of each of those inputs will have drastic effects on the flight. It is really less about an even flare and more about keeping your canopy straight. Many times what a pilot will do is lean towards the turn and make it worse. It is a natural reaction, just like putting your hand out to catch yourself when falling. Resist that urge. Sometimes you may need to have a very "uneven" flare to keep your canopy flying straight. It can be because of body position, wind, or many other small factors. Think less about flaring even and more about flying the canopy to the ground. Obviously you want an even flare, but I am talking about once the canopy starts to drift. You have the control, use it. Think about if a pilot just aimed the plane at the ground, flared, and made no further corrections. Never stop flying. When you feel it drifting, correct with a little opposite input. Avoid the natural reaction to go with the turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #13 October 10, 2005 Yup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #14 October 10, 2005 QuoteYup, when you reach with the one leg, that puts you leaning in the harness. Don't reach with the leg. Yeah I noticed that right away too.. Both your right leg and right hand are lower. That is the reason your canopy is leaning over.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #15 October 10, 2005 Yeah. Bad. I'll need to have my landings filmed more often, but it's always so hard to cajole somebody, the damn guys are always jumping Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jtval 0 #16 October 10, 2005 so did you stand that landing up? the important thing is that you fly the thing until it has no more speed in it. I assume you did well on the landing. but you look very uneven (favoring your right side) lots of good suggestions here already. no need for me to echo themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #17 October 11, 2005 I'd like to add a great article by Skratch Garrison.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #18 October 11, 2005 Uneven flare, and you're tilted in the harness. Other than that, I can't tell as I don't know what you were doing prior to this shot.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #19 October 11, 2005 I have done this before... both intentionally and unintentionally. I now know how to flare turn up to ten degrees to compensate. Also landed crosswind twice and flare turned during that. Sometime around jump 70, I did have a crazy unintentional flare turn oscillation (left 5, right 5, left 5 degrees) when my brake lines got replaced and I was not used to the new flare "range" due to longer brake lines, because I kept flare turning to compensate for an accidental asymmetric turn, and kept overshooting left and right as I came in to touchdown. Landed soft, but it really tensed me up when I did that, and my instructor told me to be careful! (I was a bit freaked even though I landed soft). But it did show I can flare/flat turn. Very important stuff. Avoid those low turns but I have to be able to comfortably avoid obstacles low. Only time I needed to do so was flat-turn curve my landing leg to avoid getting too close to a treeline (20 degree slow flat turn or so) because people were landing in more than one different direction on a zero-wind day and I wanted to avoid them. Wasn't worried since I am comfortable with my canopy's flat turning abilities now. Needless to say, the dropzone removed the pea-bowl windsock for the rest of the day and ordered landing in a single direction. ;-) Eventually I'll be able to flare turn 30-45 degrees (I probably can in an emergency now) and the like, but only do it "intentionally" when I'm ready to try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #20 October 11, 2005 I would worry about your rig... what do you call that thing on your back and what do feed it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #21 October 11, 2005 lol FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #22 October 11, 2005 It would appear that your right hand is lower then the left. What will help you with this is to get your hands in closer to your body so its easier to feel where your hands are in relation to each other. Just because all the swoopers put their arms out and back doesn't mean that its a good technique for everyone...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #23 October 11, 2005 Read and weep . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #24 October 11, 2005 Still think that rig is cool as hell... How is the "fur" holding up on that thing anyway? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites benforde 0 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteRead and weep . hum... to each his own.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
jtval 0 #16 October 10, 2005 so did you stand that landing up? the important thing is that you fly the thing until it has no more speed in it. I assume you did well on the landing. but you look very uneven (favoring your right side) lots of good suggestions here already. no need for me to echo themMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #17 October 11, 2005 I'd like to add a great article by Skratch Garrison.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 October 11, 2005 Uneven flare, and you're tilted in the harness. Other than that, I can't tell as I don't know what you were doing prior to this shot.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #19 October 11, 2005 I have done this before... both intentionally and unintentionally. I now know how to flare turn up to ten degrees to compensate. Also landed crosswind twice and flare turned during that. Sometime around jump 70, I did have a crazy unintentional flare turn oscillation (left 5, right 5, left 5 degrees) when my brake lines got replaced and I was not used to the new flare "range" due to longer brake lines, because I kept flare turning to compensate for an accidental asymmetric turn, and kept overshooting left and right as I came in to touchdown. Landed soft, but it really tensed me up when I did that, and my instructor told me to be careful! (I was a bit freaked even though I landed soft). But it did show I can flare/flat turn. Very important stuff. Avoid those low turns but I have to be able to comfortably avoid obstacles low. Only time I needed to do so was flat-turn curve my landing leg to avoid getting too close to a treeline (20 degree slow flat turn or so) because people were landing in more than one different direction on a zero-wind day and I wanted to avoid them. Wasn't worried since I am comfortable with my canopy's flat turning abilities now. Needless to say, the dropzone removed the pea-bowl windsock for the rest of the day and ordered landing in a single direction. ;-) Eventually I'll be able to flare turn 30-45 degrees (I probably can in an emergency now) and the like, but only do it "intentionally" when I'm ready to try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #20 October 11, 2005 I would worry about your rig... what do you call that thing on your back and what do feed it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #21 October 11, 2005 lol FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #22 October 11, 2005 It would appear that your right hand is lower then the left. What will help you with this is to get your hands in closer to your body so its easier to feel where your hands are in relation to each other. Just because all the swoopers put their arms out and back doesn't mean that its a good technique for everyone...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #23 October 11, 2005 Read and weep . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #24 October 11, 2005 Still think that rig is cool as hell... How is the "fur" holding up on that thing anyway? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteRead and weep . hum... to each his own.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
