hobbes4star 0 #1 October 12, 2005 One of my employees came into day and informed me that he is on Prozac, because of me, and how much I stress him out. I don’t know if I should be proud or ashamed. It made me laugh when he first told me. I am hard on the poor guy but he is just one of those people that have no common sense and can not follow directions even when written down. He has no motivation has to be constantly supervised and does just enough to get by. Which is why I am so hard on him. I have tried everything from bribes to promotions to try and get him motivated. He just wants to do the least amount possible to keep his job. But hey on the upside now I can be just as hard and he won’t mind so much. if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #2 October 12, 2005 Uhh... fire him? Giving an unmotivated employee a promotion, essentially rewarding their lack of motivation, is no way to get them to improve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #3 October 12, 2005 I don’t have the authority to fire. Isn’t working for corporate America grand. I have already tried that route, as long as you are somewhat doing your job, no firing for you. My boss has other things to worry about than hiring and firing. also when i gave him the promotion it was not a pay raise just more resposibilty and a title. I was trying to see if he could be a leader. you know step up to the plate and all that jazz.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #4 October 12, 2005 Depending on where you are it can now be harder to get rid of him. He's now got a medical problem that he blames on the employer. Fire him and a discrimination suit could be coming Edit to add: I wouldn't know whether to be proud or not either "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #5 October 12, 2005 prozac is good talk to ur boss or the one who have the authority to fire or change his job for sure if he cant do the job when he`s clean he cant do it better on prozac ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #6 October 12, 2005 The philosophy behind corporate America seems to be- make the problem employee miserable enough to quit. Less paperwork that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #7 October 12, 2005 QuoteHe has no motivation Classic sign of depression. Maybe the Prozac will help. Maybe it won't. Sounds like you need to document his lack of performance, set measurable goals, develop a performance plan with measurable milestones, and document if/when he doesn't meet those goals."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #8 October 12, 2005 And to me, working in the legal field, it sounds like he is building a foundation for a workers' comp. claim - good luck with that one "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #9 October 12, 2005 Ya thank god I am just the middleman, Very little authority and lots and lots of responsibility. I also have all of the documentation on performance that is not a problem with quarterly performance reviews. And anytime an employee starts on meds he has to let everyone know because part of his job is driving customer cars.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #10 October 12, 2005 Your avatar is going to make me turn to Prozac. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #11 October 12, 2005 Quote And anytime an employee starts on meds Hmmm, this happen a lot working under you? And not to be critical, but if your employee or coworker is demonstrating lack of motivation, maybe that's a sign of a deeper issue? Laughing prolly not a great motivational tool......ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #12 October 12, 2005 no no no not a common occurrence. It’s company policy that all medications have to notify us. We drive customer cars and random drug testing. If you drive a customer car and you are on meds and an accident happens could be very bad for the company. The laughing was purely unintentional. I thought he was joking at first.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 October 13, 2005 How can you not like a dancing Hobbes? He rocks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #14 October 13, 2005 I have had him for a very long time.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 1010 #15 October 13, 2005 Quote ... also when i gave him the promotion it was not a pay raise just more resposibilty and a title. I was trying to see if he could be a leader. ... this "promotion" of yours is like right off the pages of Dilbert ... I seriously through you were joking at first ... do you find that most of your employees enjoy these "promotions?" I understand that you may not have much room to maneuver, but jeez. Quote It’s company policy that all medications have to notify us. We drive customer cars and random drug testing. If you drive a customer car and you are on meds and an accident happens could be very bad for the company. Is there a list of drugs your employess must notify the company about? All "drugs", or all prescription drugs, or some list of drugs which may cause driving impairment? Just wondering what the mechanism / implementation is that keeps your company out of court. Have you heard of medical privacy laws? Does him telling the employer make it such that the employer (you) can tell the world about his use of medications? I suspect you should look in the mirror as to at least some of his causes for lack of motivation. Maybe you should try talking to him, if such a relationship exists between the two of you. edit: I'm probably being way to harsh here. Don't know diddly about whats really going on, besides, I lost my prozac bottle last week. (Just joking, not really on it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #16 October 13, 2005 I agree, Hobbes totally rocks. HH doesn't like animated avatars though, read here.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #17 October 13, 2005 I oversee three employees. In my team i put one team leader and other two as helpers. Micro managment at it's best you might say. Anyways the little promotion as i call it was to make this guy the team leader. And yes if you are on perscribed meds that may impair your driving it is standard policy ( please note i am not the head fred and i don't make company policy for the corporation that i work for ) to inform the managment. That way if you are involved in an accident and you were not supposed to be driving than it goes back to the employee and not the company. A big part of the daily activities is to move customer cars from one lot to another and also test drive on city streets and section of freeway.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #18 October 13, 2005 QuoteClassic sign of depression. Depression is tough on everyone, but it's especially tough on losers.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites