FAO Rhondalea

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A wise man knows when to STFU. You are obviously having problems with this. Don't make me have to help you a little by giving you a time out from the forums.

Do us all a favor .. swat the hell out of the shit !!!!!!!!!!!!

I am NOT being loud.
I'm being enthusiastic!

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Glad I got you to smile.

now... all we need is a picture of you smiling




what?





what?



here we go again !!!!

Smart ass!

There are a ton of pics of me on this website. If you really want to see them, do a search for them.

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

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maybe said a dumb thing or two (who here hasn't?)

A dumb thing or two? I made a post on a terribly sad day to gather support from people like me to maybe feel just a little bit better. This socially retarded person SHIT all over my grief completely unnecessarily. His remark was insensitive and rude and he now takes pride in the fact that he is getting a rise out of people. Now he has started a stupid thread singling out someone who only had kind words for me. He needs to learn some basic social skills. I don't care whether this is the internet or not. I use this website to talk and relate about things with people who I consider to know me just a little bit b/c of what we do. This ass is polluting that for me and for others.

I think skymama should take his ass down.

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And for your loss I'm truly sorry. I know how it feels to lose a pet that is family and am glad that you have your other little puppy to comfort you during your grieving time.

However, look above...he did apologize to you, and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant the apology. So, now that he did extend the olive branch, the question is are you going to accept it?

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

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Cora,

He did NOT apologize to her. He made a half assed apology to YOU for offending her. (Probably because he's cyber flirting with you.) If he bothered to make a real apology, your question might be valid. Have you read the stuff he's posted? I'm not just talking about Squink's thread either. He's gone out of his way to be offensive at every turn. Suddenly, people who call him out on it are being called cliquish and small minded.

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Tigra,

Yes, I went back and read a few pages of his stuff. Some of them, he was being an outright ass, and there are a few people on this website that can be classified as such. Some of them, he was obviously displaying an attempt at humor. Some of them...not quite sure what he was doing but he did it.

And if he's flirting with me...well, that'll get him nowhere as I go by how a man treat others - including someone they've never met. (Besides which...there are so many gorgeous skymen out there, I'd want someone locally so I can play whenever we're able to.).

As I said, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He may very well prove me wrong and then well...I'm not very nice a 2nd time around. I'll be watching and seeing how he acts/reacts to situations and see if he honestly meant what he said. Time will tell...and, again, I may very well regret suggesting taking the olive branch. But, I'd rather take the chance that he's being honest with his thoughts/intents/feelings than automatically assume he's saying what he did 'cause he's flirting with me or whatever. See where I'm coming from?

And, as of yet, I haven't called anyone cliquish or small minded so I hope that was a general comment.

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

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OK, I see that you want to cut him some slack for some reason. Bottom line, he extended his olive branch only to you, so why on earth should Squink accept it? If he was sincere, he would have attempted to apologize to the people he offended.

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I said this in another thread:

This thread is redicurous. Yes, I know how I spelled it.

If he bothers you, ignore EVERY post he makes. Simple.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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As I said, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

There are people in this world who make their way by repeatedly convincing one or two others to give them the "benefit of the doubt."

Unfortunately, if you trace their path through life, you find a trail of carnage.

So, the question is: "what doubt do you have?" Even the truly evil have moments of apparent kindness, after all.

Ian was given every opportunity to make an apology; instead he has justified, excused and otherwise defended his own behavior, all the while trying to find someone who would buy into his idea of humor.

I have seen this kind of behavior before, and I have fallen victim to my own stupidity by giving people who behave this way the benefit of the doubt. It never fails to backfire when one is dealing with someone who lacks empathy for the pain of others.

Humor can be healing. But when ones humor is misplaced and ill-received, there's only one way to deal with it if one gives a shit about the pain one has caused.

Ian has chosen not to give a shit. Now that you've allowed him to win you over, please feel free to live with the consequences.

The way I figure, there are a lot of really wonderful people in the world, and I don't have time for all of them, so why would I make time for someone who has nothing to recommend him but mean-spiritedness and cruelty masquerading as humor?

rl

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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OK, I see that you want to cut him some slack for some reason. Bottom line, he extended his olive branch only to you, so why on earth should Squink accept it? If he was sincere, he would have attempted to apologize to the people he offended.

It's not just him that I've cut slack to, there are a few that I've got slack to. Some I've regretted cutting slack to and others I haven't. And as I said, he may prove me wrong.

You see him as having extended the apology to just me. I see it as him having extended it to Squink and not me at all. So, I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree on who the apology went to.

As to why he hasn't apologized to everyone that he's offended, ask him.

I know for a fact that everyone on this board at one time or another has offended someone or multiple someones. How many have actually gone back and apologized to everyone that they've insulted? I'm sure that some have just as I'm sure some haven't and just as sure that some are unaware that they've insulted an individual and don't know that an apology may/may not be needed. So, if we're going to require him to apologize to everyone that has been offended by him, than I'd suggest that those that threatened him with physical violence start first. Because as far as I am concerned, words on the internet or even in person are absolutely no excuse for threatening a person with physical violence nor carrying it out (not saying that it has been carried out to date...making a point).

I know that I'm pissing some people off for cutting artist some slack and giving him a chance to prove himself, and as I've stated already, I may regret the chance I have given to him.

Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

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I do not believe that there was an apology extended to me at all. And for the record, I don't give a sh*t whether or not he apologizes. He has singled someone out for no reason. Someone who I have never met, but for whom I have serious respect, for the kindness she reached out with to me. I am finished wasting my thoughts or energy on this person. I hope he would just sit back and look at what he's said and just take it down a couple of notches. I know I don't like offending people on purpose, why would he?

...the door was open

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If you really want to see them, do a search for them

can't find any

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If he was sincere

Sincere motives generally follow an underlying pattern.
A diversion from the basic pattern is apologized for.

A post is just electronic dots. Anybody can write anything.
Just because an apology exists, does not mean that it has value.

People usually take advantage of others through their virtues (their kindness or acceptance for example).
Trolls hone this to an art. The cycle is abuse, forgiveness, abuse. Jesus may forgive them, I don't have to.

I don't know why trolls choose skydiving forums. Why can't they go to a board where people are as unhappy as they are to begin with?

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Do us all a favor .. swat the hell out of the shit !!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you really want to see them, do a search for them

just found a couple... yowzer !!!!! .... but wait

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And if he's flirting with me...well, that'll get him nowhere as I go by how a man treat others - including someone they've never met. (Besides which...there are so many gorgeous skymen out there, I'd want someone locally so I can play whenever we're able to

so close, yet so far

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This socially retarded person

...... she may have a point !

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Now he has started a stupid thread singling out someone

you think i started this thread to single out somebody and ridicule them or something? wihtout trying to be too offensive... i started this thread to lighten the mood, to have a laugh with somebody. Have a look at my original post in this topic, does that sound like i'm being nasty? does it sound like i'm trying to make her look small? If you think this thrad is offensive, we must be looking at different threads, because i just see some light ribbing at most or somebody trying to make somebody else see i'm not Charles Bronson ( or is it Manson, i get them confused ) but just a normal fella who likes a laugh, is that laugh occasionally at somebody elses expense? yeah.. sometimes, just like it's sometimes at my expense.

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He did NOT apologize to her. He made a half assed apology to YOU for offending her.

i appologied in the orginal thread that made WWIII break out, if you read it again, you'll see it

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He's gone out of his way to be offensive at every turn.

i've posted in quite a few areas on this website (if i was a troll, i'd have stuck to winding people up in here) and i've been as polite and curteous as anybody else in those sections. I have posted some crap in here, but this is the BONFIRE section, my posts have been on about par with some of the other shite that is posted in here occasionally.

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I'll be watching and seeing how he acts/reacts

you can watch me all you like

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The way I figure, there are a lot of really wonderful people in the world, and I don't have time for all of them, so why would I make time for someone who has nothing to recommend him but mean-spiritedness and cruelty masquerading as humor?

believe it or not, i actually do know what you're saying (see, i occasionally use my brain ) RhondaLea... i can see i've offended you, it doesn't matter if i think i'm in the wright or wrong, i appologies to you if this thread , or any of my posts in any other threads have caused you any upset, that wasn't my intention. I know you won't take an appology from me, but i've made one anyway

and squink, sorry to you too. those two comments where out of order.

Do you all want a laugh? guess which one is me.....

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If he was sincere

Sincere motives generally follow an underlying pattern.
A diversion from the basic pattern is apologized for.

A post is just electronic dots. Anybody can write anything.
Just because an apology exists, does not mean that it has value.

People usually take advantage of others through their virtues (their kindness or acceptance for example).
Trolls hone this to an art. The cycle is abuse, forgiveness, abuse. Jesus may forgive them, I don't have to.

I don't know why trolls choose skydiving forums. Why can't they go to a board where people are as unhappy as they are to begin with?

Wasn't I in an argument with you once? Why, I wonder? Silly me.

You're extremely bright and perceptive. My mistake. Most people don't understand the cycle of abusive behavior because they want to buy the idea that "he didn't mean it." He did mean it. That's why he said it. What's so hard to understand about that? "Can't you take a joke?" is the hallmark phrase of abusers, with "you're too sensitive" running a close second. Edited to add: Most people don't seem to understand patterns of behavior either.

The apologies I like the least are those intended to manipulate. I see that in this thread. Defensiveness didn't work. Distraction didn't work. The next thing is the "apology that isn't."

I recently had a guy apologize to me for something that happened some time ago. He was very specific about what part of our clash he was apologizing for, he was obviously sincere, and even though he and I have a lot we continue to disagree about, it was obvious to me that he felt bad about what he'd written. I appreciate people like that, because no matter what else they may be, they're not full of shit. On the other hand, I really and truly resent someone who treats me as if I'm stupid enough not to see through their manipulation.

This has been a nice thread for me personally--regardless of the intent--because of a few posts that were unexpectedly kind, but other than that, I've never seen this sort of thing as anything but an "I'm going to fuck with you" tactic.

Spin is not reality. People who confuse the two are...confused. The people I choose to have in my life don't do spin and they aren't confused about what's real. They also have a finely honed wit, and they don't have to rely on outright cruelty in the stead of humor.

I probably shouldn't have replied to any of this, but I have some pretty strong feelings on the subjects I've chosen to address--all bought by bitter experience--and while I don't feel compelled these days to respond to cheap shots aimed at me, I still have a somewhat protective instinct about those who effectively mistake a coral snake for a scarlet king.

rl

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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I know for a fact that everyone on this board at one time or another has offended someone or multiple someones.

Not me.

(edited for clarity)

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Jesus may forgive them, I don't have to.

i'm not religeous at all

Can i ask you something? i put a picture of myself up, and also another picture as a light hearted piss take of myself, how do you psycho analyse what i did there?

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put a picture of myself up

It must be easy to come by. According to your profile, you are a photographer with only 16 jumps. You are unique.

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put a picture of myself up

It must be easy to come by. According to your profile, you are a photographer with only 16 jumps. You are unique.

eh? i'm an accountant, not a photographer are you sure you looked at the right profile?

i don't understand your answer either? what is easy to come by?

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i put a picture of myself up, and also another picture as a light hearted piss take of myself, how do you psycho analyse what i did there?

If the shoe fits...

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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A lot of newbies click photographer not knowing that it is asking if they are a arial photographer. If they own a camera they put yes.

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put a picture of myself up

It must be easy to come by. According to your profile, you are a photographer with only 16 jumps. You are unique.

eh? i'm an accountant, not a photographer are you sure you looked at the right profile?

i don't understand your answer either? what is easy to come by?

In your profile, just under "years in sport", there is a line that says "photographer". You answered "yes".

A photographer can easily get a pic of themselves.

Do you do freefall photography?

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In your profile, just under "years in sport", there is a line that says "photographer". You answered "yes".

my mistake, i wasn't aware of that and have now changed it

Do you lot ever let up on the analysing? everything i say will be "ahh, now you're saying this because of......blah blah blah" You're going to sit and come up with reasons for everything i say on here aren't you !

i put a picture up of me so you can see who you're arguing the toss with, i can see who rhonda is, so why not let her see who i am, seems fair to me.... and i try and make a joke to show that i'm not the ogre you think i am and can take a joke at my own expense and all of a sudden, i'm analysed again as some kind of narsissist (sp) unreal !

you're simply not going to believe i'm just a normal bloke are you? you've convinced yourself there is some alterior motive to anything i say, "snake in the grass" and all the rubbish.

Do you think that its possible for anybody to take the piss out of themselves and not have a personality dissorder? do you think EVERYBODY who does that has issues? Or is it possible to be just up for a laugh and be "normal" is that possible?

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