airtwardo 7 #1 November 5, 2005 Hobby Airport on the runway and is burning... Just got back from there... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #2 November 5, 2005 shit... is anyone hurt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 November 5, 2005 Everybody likely dead From what I could see there's very little left...HUGH fire on the ground... Bad ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #4 November 5, 2005 Private jet crashes at Hobby, killing two 737 diverted to Bush IAH (11/5/05 - KTRK/HOUSTON) - A private jet has crashed at Hobby Airport, killing two people. The accident happened just before 10am Saturday. There was apparently a 737 coming in for a landing some type of difficulty. Air traffic controllers told the pilot of the smaller plane to move off the runway to make way for the 737. The pilot took off in the jet, circled back around, tried to land again and crashed. The Citation aircraft skidded a distance through a grassy area and ended up on runway #22 where it caught fire. Both people on board are dead, according to HFD officials. The 737 was diverted to Bush Intercontinental Airport where it landed safely. There's no word yet on what type of problems that plane was experiencing. Hobby Airport was closed for about an hour following the crash. http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=3606961"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #5 November 5, 2005 Cessna Jet? How many people does that hold? Is Hobby an international airport? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #7 November 5, 2005 May i offer my sincere condelences to the realitives of those involved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 November 5, 2005 QuoteMay i offer my sincere condolences to the relatives of those involved *** Same here... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #9 November 5, 2005 uh huh. This is very sad event, especially for the relastives but also for those who had to witness it. Witnessing something like that (although i never have personally and thankfully) must be very hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 November 6, 2005 You have a tail number? There was a Citation at Coulter (KCFD) last night and was head towards Houston at somepoint after doing some other flying...curious to know if it was the same.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #11 November 6, 2005 QuoteCessna Jet? How many people does that hold? Depends on what jet it was. There are a bunch of Citaions that hold anywhere from 4 up to more than 12. Interested on what happened here with this one.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #12 November 6, 2005 Quote*** Interested on what happened here with this one. it crashed.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #13 November 6, 2005 QuoteQuote*** Interested on what happened here with this one. it crashed.... i got a bunch of friends who gave me a bunch of opinions on why it crashed (in a bunch)..... they said it could be a whole bunch of reasons, but the bunch of people who really know, are bunching together and not saying anything. i need to get a bunch of information and slowly built a bunch of images in my head as to why this happened in the mean time, i'll be doing a bunch of jumps if i can________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #14 November 6, 2005 Quoteit crashed.... No kidding! Wonder why. Thays all.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 November 6, 2005 i got a bunch of friends who gave me a bunch of opinions on why it crashed (in a bunch)..... they said it could be a whole bunch of reasons, but the bunch of people who really know, are bunching together and not saying anything. i need to get a bunch of information and slowly built a bunch of images in my head as to why this happened in the mean time, i'll be doing a bunch of jumps if i can *** You know what... Your comment about the loss of someones pet on here was not sarcastic as you claimed, it was cruel. And your attempt to satirise a tragedy such as this, with a loss of human life is beyond insensitive. It's truly sick. I've seen enough of you to understand that you're nothing but a clown not worthy my time, and I'll put you in my personal 'ostracized' column~ choosing not to play with you. Sure it's 'only' the internet...but if your on line persona is any reflection of who you are in real life, you won't be jumping long... This sport tends to weed out the jerks pretty quickly and you definitely don't impress me as someone I would trust in the air, or anywhere else for that matter. Your posts to actual jump ratio speaks volumes as to what you are... all talk no action. I have many ties to the aviation community here where this crash occurred, I personally don't find any humor in the death of the two people we lost today, and I don't wish to associate with a person like you who does. Ya got the brain....all ya need now is a heart and some soul. C~YA! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #16 November 6, 2005 I agree with airtwardo here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #17 November 6, 2005 I agree. The Mods will hopfully take note .. I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #18 November 6, 2005 Couldnt agree more. Hope I never have the deligh of meeting this guy.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #19 November 6, 2005 It was a 500 series Citation. 500s were the origional Cessna jets. They began production in the early 70s. They hold about 5-6 + 2 crew. On an unrelatied side note - they are a pain in the ass to work on. Sad accident, will be interesting to see what comes of it. D'Bo P.S. Im an avionics tech on Citation Jets at the Orlando Citation service Center. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #20 November 6, 2005 although the 500s are old, at least compared to the the citation ultras, excels, citationjets, etc, what sort of safety record do they have? I've always heard that they --all citations in general-- have an outstanding safety record. lord knows cessna has sold a buttload of 'em! -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #21 November 6, 2005 QuoteIt was a 500 series Citation Was this the Citation I? I dont have any work experience on the citation but I do have to say the Citation X looks kick ass and from what I have read and heard it flies great. Hell at Mach .92 it better. Quotethey are a pain in the ass to work on. Why is this? Because of so many AD's? Age and what not or are they just tight to get around in?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #22 November 6, 2005 QuoteI've always heard that they --all citations in general-- have an outstanding safety record. lord knows cessna has sold a buttload of 'em! From what I know Citation like you said has great history. Sometimes the odds just catch up and after a while something will go wrong. Just wish Cessna can drop the price of the Citation V to around $30, 000 so I could pick one up.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #23 November 6, 2005 QuoteQuoteI've always heard that they --all citations in general-- have an outstanding safety record. lord knows cessna has sold a buttload of 'em! From what I know Citation like you said has great history. Sometimes the odds just catch up and after a while something will go wrong. Just wish Cessna can drop the price of the Citation V to around $30, 000 so I could pick one up. well hell, if you're going to dream, dream big, like the X, as you said... last time I was in the Albany NY airport, a Citation X barrelled down the runway, slowly lifted up, and stayed low, about 100 feet off the runway, then at the end of the runway, it pulled up rather sharply (for a bizjet anyway), not quite vertical, then rolled right, eventually righted itself and off it flew... it was simply beautiful. hijack over, vibes for the victims and their families -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #24 November 6, 2005 Safety record for all Cessnas is great - (as far as I know). They are safe planes. As for working on the 500 series - its just a matter of age. 30 odd years of work, rework, mods, aftermarket changes etc etc. It appears to me they were designed by engineers who never spent time under the hood of the Buick with there dads if you know what I mean. But I get paid by the hour so feel free to bring me your plane. On a side note - NBAA got relocated to Orlando (was in New Orleans), we are having a big display at our new maintence hanger. They are going to have the Mustang there (among a few other planes - but the 'stang is the one Im interested in). If I manage to sneak past the armed guards, laser defense beams and barbed wire then Ill try to snake a couple pics for you. D'Bo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #25 November 6, 2005 Quotei got a bunch of friends who gave me a bunch of opinions on why it crashed (in a bunch)..... they said it could be a whole bunch of reasons, but the bunch of people who really know, are bunching together and not saying anything. i need to get a bunch of information and slowly built a bunch of images in my head as to why this happened in the mean time, i'll be doing a bunch of jumps if i can *** You know what... Your comment about the loss of someones pet on here was not sarcastic as you claimed, it was cruel. And your attempt to satirise a tragedy such as this, with a loss of human life is beyond insensitive. It's truly sick. I've seen enough of you to understand that you're nothing but a clown not worthy my time, and I'll put you in my personal 'ostracized' column~ choosing not to play with you. Sure it's 'only' the internet...but if your on line persona is any reflection of who you are in real life, you won't be jumping long... This sport tends to weed out the jerks pretty quickly and you definitely don't impress me as someone I would trust in the air, or anywhere else for that matter. Your posts to actual jump ratio speaks volumes as to what you are... all talk no action. I have many ties to the aviation community here where this crash occurred, I personally don't find any humor in the death of the two people we lost today, and I don't wish to associate with a person like you who does. Ya got the brain....all ya need now is a heart and some soul. C~YA! i'm not satiring the crash, that wasn't even in my thoughts when i made that post..so stop getting your knickers in a twist. i was poking fun at the way Ameicans over use the word Bunch all the time, its always a bunch of something. i didn't make ANY comment about the loss of that girls pet, i made a joke about myself... are you one of these people who runs crying like a bitch to the mods to try and get somebody banned? As for the est of the clowns who jump in, you bore me________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
