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Unless they can prove that he glued himself to the toilet seat, he's got a legitimate complaint.



I wonder if they have those paper ass-gaskets in the bathroom at Home Depot. If so, and he chose not to use one, then it's his own damn fault.

Still, I think that he was the one that glued himself to that seat. The odds of someone putting enough super glue on the seat in the 1.5 minute window before it dried and he sat down is pretty slim.

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CyA adhesives do NOT dry; they set by chemical reaction with moisture or other catalysts from the things they are gluing. If there's no moisture it won't set up for a long time. There is no "window" of fixed length, a slow set CyA could have been there for 30 minutes and still not set until it contacted the moisture in skin.

I find it remarkable that so many are willing to prejudge the issue in favor of Home Depot with precious little knowledge of the facts.
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I find it remarkable that so many are willing to prejudge the issue in favor of Home Depot with precious little knowledge of the facts.



I don't think home depot should even be the issue. It's not like they have the resources to check the toilet seats for super glue every 5 minutes at all of the stores they own.

It sucks that it happened to him, but given the huge amount of money he wants, it seems typical of many scams I've heard of before.

I kind of felt sorry for the guy, right up to the point where he wanted 3 million dollars.:|

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I find it remarkable that so many are willing to prejudge the issue in favor of Home Depot with precious little knowledge of the facts.



I don't think home depot should even be the issue. It's not like they have the resources to check the toilet seats for super glue every 5 minutes at all of the stores they own.

It sucks that it happened to him, but given the huge amount of money he wants, it seems typical of many scams I've heard of before.

I kind of felt sorry for the guy, right up to the point where he wanted 3 million dollars.:|



so what amount of money could he ask for that would have kept your sympathy? and if he didn't ask for monetary compensation, what then should he ask for? anything?

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CyA adhesives do NOT dry; they set by chemical reaction with moisture or other catalysts from the things they are gluing. If there's no moisture it won't set up for a long time.



Thanks Kallend. that's what I thought, but I didn't have the facts straight. There are a few things I remember from HS and University Physics, but I certainly don't know enough to do anything more than agree with you.
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Pre - Cise - Ly !

I would not be calling him a scum sucker if he wasn't out to get more then he is entitled to... scratch that, he is not "entitled" to anything... something bad happened to him, that does not "entitle" him to anyting.

tigra argues that Home Depot should pay because of the misunderstanding which had one of their employees fail to come to his aid. The store offered him $2000 and he called it an insult. tigra says she hardly thinks $2000 would cover his medical bills...

tigra, so then which is it? Are they responsible for what happened to him or should they just be punished for having him wait an extra 15 minutes? My vote is, they should send "some guys" to his house.



Legal mumbo-jumbo aside, when do we say enough is enough? I mean, as a people?

This guy is an Ass Hat! I type this wishing he was reading it.



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Technically they *might* be responsible for what happened because it happened at their store, in much the same way that if someone slips on your stairs, your homeowner's policy would have to pay out. I'm not a lawyer, so I can't say for sure.

In most retail stores, when a customer is injured, incident reports will be filled out and in order to avoid bad press or lengthy legal battles, more often than not at the very least, the store will offer to cover medical bills, and they'd also express regret (without admitting blame) that this happened in their store. And that's when they've actually done nothing wrong.

In this case, I don't know the "victim" or what his motives are. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt mainly because two store employees were obviously in the wrong. They were aware of the situation (whether they believed it or not) and they refused to help. If you ask me, that kind of behaviour is just asking for a lawsuit and yes, I believe Home Depot will and should pay for their employees' stupidity. This is not a case they can bring before a jury and win, and I doubt they'll even try.

And the reason I think $2,000.00 would not cover his medical bills if because a) they had to take him to the ER in an ambulance and b) with his medical history, I'm sure they ran a ton of tests.

As much as I hate frivolous lawsuits and how litigious our society has become, I think this is the WRONG case to start crying enough is enough over.

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if he were never able to remove the seat from his glutes and had to live with it the rest of his life.



Maybe he can market this as a solution for the chicks that can't check seat position before they sit.

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I heard this morning on the news that this is the SECOND time his ass has been glued to a store seat! he must have the worst luck in the world!
What a lousy scammer>:(



Sure as shit.... here's the news report :S this guy is just a little nuts !!!!

http://cbs4denver.com/local/local_story_312082931.html
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I heard this morning on the news that this is the SECOND time his ass has been glued to a store seat! he must have the worst luck in the world!
What a lousy scammer>:(



Now Home Depot should spend that $2000 they offered him on "some guys" to send over to his house.

Heck, I'd do it for free.

Ass-hat.


tigra, you're going to have to learn to sniff these ones out. You always route for the underdog and that in itself is praiseworthy to a degree... but I was having fun with you. ;)
I wasn't even sure he was a scammer... but I knew in my heart he did not deserve what he was asking for... and I knew in my heart, that Home Depot should not have been made to suffer in the slightest.

Hopefully, they will put this guy in the ground.



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Now see, if that's true, that's new information and puts this in a whole different light. IF that's true, he's even more stupid than the clerks who refused to help him. (Because once you go on TV with a story like this, people WILL look into your background!)

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Super glue dries in less than 3 minutes.

Depends on the conditions. When it's sitting on a non-porus surface like plastic (which I assume the toilet seat cover is made of), I've seen super glue still remain ready for 15 minutes if the volatiles in it evaporates so slowly (humidity). Some plastics don't like the super glue and keeps its very wet for a long time, since it can only easily evaporate into the air rather than soak into the surface. If plenty was squirted out.

When I was working in Electronics, I tried to glue two plastic battery holders together, and also to a board surface, and discovered these properties by accident...

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You're missing my point about that "award"... if the only reason they should pay anything, is because they didn't help him right away, why do you suppose what they offer him must be his entire medical expense?

Indemnifying him his medical expenses would imply that they take responsibility for his injuries.

You think they should pay something because they didn't believe him and he had to wait longer. $2000 for half an hour... hmmmmm... that's $4000/hour... I'm in the wrong profession.

lol

Anyway, I guess we see there's a reason they didn't believe him... he's not trustworthy.



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Super glue dries in less than 3 minutes.

Depends on the conditions. When it's sitting on a non-porus surface like plastic (which I assume the toilet seat cover is made of), I've seen super glue still remain ready for 15 minutes if the volatiles in it evaporates so slowly (humidity). Some plastics don't like the super glue and keeps its very wet for a long time, since it can only easily evaporate into the air rather than soak into the surface. If plenty was squirted out.

When I was working in Electronics, I tried to glue two plastic battery holders together, and also to a board surface, and discovered these properties by accident...



For the third time, it DOES NOT "dry" by evaporation. It sets up by catalytic reaction with a suitable surface.
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See, even if this guy is a scammer, I STILL think the Home Depot employees f'd up. They have to take any cry for help seriously. If he's got a history of gluing himself to toilet seats, Home Depot might have just dodged a bullet. Its not so much about rooting for the underdog as it is being disgusted by blatant incompetence!

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You're missing my point- the store employees had an obligation to act whether or not they believed him. By refusing to act, they turned a situation that couldn't really be blamed on the store into one that could.



I'm not missing your point. Just disagreeing with it.

If something bad happens to you and someone fails to help, it doesn't just become their fault!! It might make them inconsiderate, but it does not make them guilty of the unfortunate event! I can't be more simple then that.

NOW... True they (Home Depot) should have helped him right away. They felt bad about the fact that they didn't. This is evident because they offered him $2000 for his time and embarassment.

You seem to think they would owe him the lot of his medical expenses. This would mean they were responsible for the unfortunate event in the first place... not the case.



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See, even if this guy is a scammer, I STILL think the Home Depot employees f'd up. They have to take any cry for help seriously. If he's got a history of gluing himself to toilet seats, Home Depot might have just dodged a bullet. Its not so much about rooting for the underdog as it is being disgusted by blatant incompetence!



Perhaps the employees were just good judges of character?

Perhaps he was lying just as the manager suspected... and only actually glued himself after they refused to come in and help? That would make his 'case' stronger right?

In my experience with the slimey, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. There is no correct course of action because it's all pre-planned. You cannot do right until you've actually proven them to be... well, slimey.

edited to add: BTW, I am in insurance.



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The catalytic equation appears to include the presence of air. I know that I can keep a bottle of superglue for months before opening it; it doesn't seem to last nearly as long after I open it, even if I put the top back on. A sample size of about 5 bottles of the stuff I've had to discard is what I have to offer :D

Either they package it in an unsuitable container, or air is involved in the catalytic reaction, or it's magic. It might be inaccurate to say that it's evaporation, but if it stays in usable condition while inside a never-unsealed container, and deteriorates when spread on a surface, or when left inside a previously-unsealed container, it's not a surprising conclusion fo rmany people to come to.

That said, a guy who is unlucky enough to have his butt glued to a toilet seat twice should take money from others to buy lottery tickets. Eliminating known losers can help them then to buy intelligently :ph34r:

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See, even if this guy is a scammer, I STILL think the Home Depot employees f'd up. They have to take any cry for help seriously. If he's got a history of gluing himself to toilet seats, Home Depot might have just dodged a bullet. Its not so much about rooting for the underdog as it is being disgusted by blatant incompetence!



this seems to be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black dont ya think?

What it boils down to is criminals (yes criminals), have "outs". The fact that if you injure someone in your home who is threating you, your family, or your possesions, that individual can sue you(and win) for defending it.

and possibly thats what this man did. Given the new news, it may be that he with malicious intent, went in there to harm (financially) HD. Admittedly, the employees reacted poorly (or for Home Depot, with the service you usually get)

the man needs to take responsibility for his actions, those being not having the common sense to check the seat before sitting on it. He might as well sat down in someone elses urine and then blamed HD for contamination, and emotional issues.

just my .02. :)
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The employees need to err on the side of caution for a number of reasons. By not doing so, they exposed Home Depot to a lawsuit. And if Home Depot gets out of paying a large settlement, it will only be because the alleged "victim" is indeed a proven scam artist. Maybe that's not right, but that's the way it is in this country.

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The employees need to err on the side of caution for a number of reasons. By not doing so, they exposed Home Depot to a lawsuit.
yes, but much of the population of people holding these jobs, could care less. I draw this conclusion from the level of service I have recieved at many of these stores. So, in essesce, HD opened itself up to this lawsuit b/c they didnt train its emloyees how to deal with a man crying for help in a locked stall in the bathroom. Which, I am positive, will become another set of training the company will be forced to implement therefor rasing prices and costing you and i more each trip.

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And if Home Depot gets out of paying a large settlement, it will only be because the alleged "victim" is indeed a proven scam artist. Maybe that's not right,


No its not right.

*** but that's the way it is in this country.


yes, but is people like YOU and I, and our FAMILY and FRIENDS who sit on jurys(you are a registed voter right) and award this kind of "alleged idiot" large sums of cash. WE must be the ones to put a stop to this. Not just sit by and say "its the way of things"
WE are responsible for fixing this. :)
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