love2flyhigh 0 #1 May 27, 2008 I know i have allready said that I had gotten it but now I am back from Iraq and I have pics. ENJOY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #2 May 27, 2008 Bought a stock rig, huh? Shoulda ordered something a little more customized. Nice rig... you'll never pick up the wrong one! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 May 27, 2008 QuoteI know i have allready said that I had gotten it but now I am back from Iraq and I have pics. ENJOY! IMO, the absolute BEST rig on the market today Congrats"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 May 27, 2008 Welcome home, thank you for your service, and congrats on the new rig!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,424 #5 May 27, 2008 SMOKIN!!!!!!!!!!! Me likey.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #6 May 27, 2008 LMAO at "Out of Order". -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2cmyzx 0 #7 May 27, 2008 Thats very, very nice! Thanks for your service and your safe return! PM me and I wiould like to be the first to paypal you a jump ticket on me! Once again thanks for the service! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #8 May 27, 2008 be careful to tuck the secondary risercovers fully in so they don't settle with a bulge or misplaced fold. V3's 2nd risercovers are sensitive to it during the first 50-ish jumps/2 months. Nice rig man, very nice! enjoy it =)"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripleflip18 0 #9 May 28, 2008 What a beautiful rig, congrats! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #10 May 29, 2008 Gorgeous rig if you like a sort of psychedelic approach. I have a Vector III M series and personally prefer a classy approach for the container. Congratulations, you have the most tested rig on the market. Looking at the pictures I can see you have probably magnet riser covers and we can see the 3D spacer confort back pad. I hope you have the SKYHOOK installed inside. As I said already, right now, no other manufacturers can top that.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #11 May 29, 2008 There is no tuck tab on this rig anymore, look at the riser cover configuration on this rig, it's different than before and this rig is likely equiped with magnet riser covers. On those new Vector III M and Micron, the risers are placed under the narrow flap located below the riser cover. Before with rigs with tuck tabs, as you said it was recommanded to wait 50 jumps to do so but with the new ones, it doesn't apply anymore.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 May 29, 2008 QuoteThere is no tuck tab on this rig anymore, look at the riser cover configuration on this rig, it's different than before and this rig is likely equiped with magnet riser covers. On those new Vector III M and Micron, the risers are placed under the narrow flap located below the riser cover. Before with rigs with tuck tabs, as you said it was recommanded to wait 50 jumps to do so but with the new ones, it doesn't apply anymore. Where does it say that on the UPT site, because I've not seen it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #13 May 29, 2008 I don't understand what you mean. I haven't seen a new Vector up close, but it looks like the secondary riser covers are the same. They were never "tuck tabs," they always just folded over the risers and were covered by the outer riser covers. If they aren't seated properly, they can get curved and bulge out... and take a set that way. I've had no problems with mine, but I have seen other Vector 3s that have secondary riser covers that always stick out, since they weren't taken care of early on. Is there really anything different about the new ones? Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #14 May 30, 2008 Take the first picture of the rig (view from the rear), look at the left side (on the picture) at the top and you can see the outside riser cover in blue get inside the slit under the yellow/red part of the yoke (from outside and not going around). The owner should have rare earth magnets installed in that outside riser cover. The edge of that cover just barely goes inside the slit of the yoke and is mainly held in place by the magnets. There is no tuck tab going around deep in the slit (which was on the inside side of the yoke before) anymore like the Vector III I had before (2003). Bill Booth explained that he came with that solution to get a more uniform force holding the riser covers (ie. the magnets, 2 in each cover and 2 matching in the narrow flap under it) The narrow flap looks like the one before on the Vector III but now you put the riser under it at the first jump and on and that narrow flap has magnets to match the magnets from the riser covers. I hope this explanation is OK. Don't hesitate to ask other question. NOTE: I had a Vector III with tuck tab on the riser covers from 2003 to 2007 and I made almost 400 jumps with it. I never had any real problem with that. Just sometimes the cover became undone when the rig was on the ground or being "dressed" on me at the gear up. When on your back with chest strap and leg straps done no more problem. Just put the tab deep in the slit with your fingers. Now I have the Vector III with the magnets like the one we discuss here. The riser covers even get closed after the canopy is deployed. As I said packers like it a lot. Easier and faster for them. The yoke however is quite different than before.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 May 30, 2008 I think you're answering a question that wasn't asked - the other poster was talking about the SECONDARY riser covers, not tuck tabs or the magnetic riser covers. The V3 manual still states to not use the secondaries for 50 jumps or so until they settle in.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #16 May 30, 2008 Here is the link (OPTIONS) from UPT web site for what we are discussing. This is for a VECTOR III M-Series but they have the same option for the Micron. http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22 get down using the vertical bar and: Look at "Magnetic riser cover" and see there is a nice picture and explanation. At your service.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #17 May 30, 2008 QuoteHere is the link (OPTIONS) from UPT web site for what we are discussing. This is for a VECTOR III M-Series but they have the same option for the Micron. http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22 get down using the vertical bar and: Look at "Magnetic riser cover" and see there is a nice picture and explanation. At your service. I'm well aware of what the magnetic riser covers ARE, thank you - I plan to get them on my next Vector. Again, what lilchief was talking about was the SECONDARY riser covers and how UPT recommends (in the V3 manual) that they NOT be used for the first 50 or so jumps to let them settle in. lilchief was NOT talking about tuck tabs or the primary riser covers. You answered a question that wasn't asked.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #18 May 30, 2008 OK I see what you mean but there is still confusion. 1) we have long sideway outside riser cover closing toward the center of the rig 2) we have long inside riser cover being put toward the outside of the rig under the #1) cover 3) the #1) cover at the top had before tuck tab going around in a slit located on the inside part of the yoke but not anymore with the new VECTOR III 4) the small narrow tab or flap at the top located under the #1) cover was requiring to have the main riser passing over it for 50 jumps but not anymore with the new VECTOR III with magnets. You put the main riser always over that narrow tab or flap now. That narrow flap (I call it a flap) (2 inches wide and 4 inches long) has now magnets in it to match the magnets of the #1) cover on the top. A guy was concerned with the fact that at packing you have to make sure the long #2) riser cover is well placed under the #1) cover to make sure it will not get wrong crease. I do my best. Words are quite limited for explanation.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 May 30, 2008 QuoteOK I see what you mean but there is still confusion. 1) we have long sideway outside riser cover closing toward the center of the rig Correct - the 'outer' riser cover (black in the pictures of the riser cover on the UPT site) Quote2) we have long inside riser cover being put toward the outside of the rig under the #1) cover Correct - the 'inner' riser cover Quote3) the #1) cover at the top had before tuck tab going around in a slit located on the inside part of the yoke but not anymore with the new VECTOR III Correct - the magnet risers no longer have the tuck tab Quote4) the small narrow tab or flap at the top located under the #1) cover was requiring to have the main riser passing over it for 50 jumps but not anymore with the new VECTOR III with magnets. You put the main riser always over that narrow tab or flap now. You have a cite for that? It's not mentioned anywhere on the UPT site OR in the Vector manual. QuoteThat narrow flap (I call it a flap) (2 inches wide and 4 inches long) has now magnets in it to match the magnets of the #1) cover on the top. You're referring to the inboard portion of the outer cover that receives the outboard portion of the outer cover, I take it. (White in the pictures of the riser cover on the UPT site) QuoteA guy was concerned with the fact that at packing you have to make sure the long #2) riser cover is well placed under the #1) cover to make sure it will not get wrong crease. I do my best. Words are quite limited for explanation. That is correct and still valid per the information on the UPT site and the Vector manual.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #20 May 30, 2008 I checked my new Vector III owner's manual (now it's a DVD) and found out that the rig shown in it is still the type I had before with tuck tab. I wonder if this is the way they still do the rig when one doesn't take the magnets in option. I checked also my rig and with the magnets riser cover installed, the main riser has to be put under the narrow tab containing the magnets. On my former Vector III with tuck tab an inscription was written on the narrow tab asking you to put the main riser above that tab for 50 jumps. This is what your rig should have. But on mine, the inscription is not there anymore. mnealtx, it was a pleasure to exchange with you for the benefit of everybody concerned. Thanks.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 May 30, 2008 No problem - I just wanted to clarify, since I hadn't seen that information anywhere. Perhaps we can cajole Mr. Booth to contribute his thoughts.... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites