ExAFO 0 #1 November 12, 2005 A question on employment ethics: I just got offered a job thru a staffing agency doing credit analysis and data entry at a Mortgage company inDowners Grove, about 25 minutes from home. it's hourly, ~$15/hr, no bennies. Starts on Tuesday. The guy who was my POC at the staffing agency is the brother of a buddy from elementary & high school, and a friend of mine also. Now the Chicago Mercantile Exchange called me twice on a resume I sent them--once to flesh out details of my work experience, and a second time to schedule an interview for a Margin Analyst. The interview appt is Monday. Here's my conundrum(sp?): If the Merc offers me a job, it'll be better pay, full benefits. I'm going to start at the mortgage company on Tuesday, but if I am offered the job at the "Merc," it would mean quitting the job my buddy at the staffing agency hooked me up with. Would it be ethical to quit after a week to go to the better position? I've wanted to get into Securities/Commodities, as I am law school-bound, and this'd be a great place to intern in after my 1L year, and to work as a Lawyer at afterwards. Also, I haven't mentioned my intended departure to law school (August 2006) to any potential employer, as there's no guarantee I'm going to get accepted, and I don't want potential employers to refuse me based on something that may not materialize (law school acceptance). Is it ethical to abruptly quit the low paying no bennie job for the better one, one I wouldn't mind staying in if LS doesn't admit me? Thanx.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuFantasma 0 #2 November 12, 2005 Where is the ethical question here? Take the job and quit after a week if you get a better offer .... Tell your buddy what you have at hand! Do you think this is the first time your buddy have seen this happen? Congrats on your new job !Y yo, pa' vivir con miedo, prefiero morir sonriendo, con el recuerdo vivo". - Ruben Blades, "Adan Garcia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 November 12, 2005 Is it ethical to abruptly quit the low paying no bennie job for the better one, one I wouldn't mind staying in if LS doesn't admit me? *** You Bet! Let your buddy know how bad you feel AFTER the move...he'll understand if he's really a buddy. You'll have burned that bridge, but it's YOUR future you need to look out for! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #4 November 12, 2005 QuoteHere's my conundrum A lucky man. She's hooooooottttttttttttt... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #5 November 12, 2005 There's no question there. Being that you are asking this question...........Are you SURE you want to become a lawyer? Doesn't seem like you have what it takes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #6 November 12, 2005 QuoteThere's no question there. Being that you are asking this question...........Are you SURE you want to become a lawyer? Doesn't seem like you have what it takes. *** OUCH! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #7 November 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteThere's no question there. Being that you are asking this question...........Are you SURE you want to become a lawyer? Doesn't seem like you have what it takes. *** OUCH! Heh...yeah...sharks don't eat atty's out of professional courtesy... Anyone--still need advice on this... [/subtle thread BUMP!]Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuFantasma 0 #8 November 12, 2005 Quote Heh...yeah...sharks don't eat atty's out of professional courtesy... Anyone--still need advice on this... [/subtle thread BUMP!] Are you concerned about your buddy suing you ?Y yo, pa' vivir con miedo, prefiero morir sonriendo, con el recuerdo vivo". - Ruben Blades, "Adan Garcia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #9 November 12, 2005 QuoteQuote Heh...yeah...sharks don't eat atty's out of professional courtesy... Anyone--still need advice on this... [/subtle thread BUMP!] Are you concerned about your buddy suing you ? No, more concerned about pissing off a friend. But it is an entry-level job, so... I dunno.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #10 November 12, 2005 QuoteNo, more concerned about pissing off a friend. If he is truly a "friend" he will understand that the other job is MUCH better for you than what he could offer. He SHOULD be happy for you. Not pissed off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuFantasma 0 #11 November 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteNo, more concerned about pissing off a friend. If he is truly a "friend" he will understand that the other job is MUCH better for you than what he could offer. He SHOULD be happy for you. Not pissed off. Clay is coming back from Iraq soon. From what I've heard, the defense team for Saddam is a couple of lawyers short... give up the Merc and apply for the job?Y yo, pa' vivir con miedo, prefiero morir sonriendo, con el recuerdo vivo". - Ruben Blades, "Adan Garcia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #12 November 12, 2005 I've recommended people for jobs and had them quit a week later. It made me look bad for a little while, but in the end I was happy that my friend was moving up in the world. Take the good job, if you're friend is a real friend, he'll understand. Of course, he'll probably never recommend anyone else for a job again (i didn't), but he'll understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #13 November 12, 2005 QuoteFrom what I've heard, the defense team for Saddam is a couple of lawyers short.. Definitely an opportunity there. Wonder how much cash they have for a PSD team? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #14 November 12, 2005 I don't see the issue. They can get any schmoe to do the data entry which sounds like a temp job anyway. Yes, your friend did you a favor by letting you be the "schmoe" but I'm sure the agency has other people to send there. People temp for a number of reasons, one of which is to keep some money coming in while they look for a "real" job with better pay and benefits. Besides which, these days the hiring process for a decent position can be time consuming- more than one interview, background checks, that kind of thing. I doubt they'll make a firm offer right away even if they are very interested, so you can do the data entry until they do, then give the agency whatever you feel is reasonable notice- no more than 2 weeks, probably less due to the nature of the job. Definitely NOT unethical and if you handle yourself professionally, you won't be burning and bridges either. (never too soon to think about that........) And good call about law school. There is simply no reason to mention it at this stage. Its not a sure thing, and its several months away. A lot can happen between now and then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #15 November 12, 2005 The first 90 days of most jobs are a trial period where you get to look at them and they get to look at you. Firings and quits during that time are generally perceived on both sides as being a failure of "fit," which is why there is a trial period to begin with. I understand that with a friend involved it isn't so easy, but he sees this all the time, and if he's a professional, he knows it's better for you to take the job that suits you, rather than staying in a job where you're going to be unhappy. He will find someone else to fill the position--it's what he does, after all--and all will be well. In the days of corporate loyalty, things were a little different, but the companies themselves changed the ethics, so it's not for you to follow an old standard that holds no meaning in today's world. My answer to you is that nothing you're doing is wrong. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmittar 0 #16 November 12, 2005 No ethical concerns at all. Just let your friend know that this is much better for you. |>.<| Seriously, W.T.F. mate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #17 November 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote Heh...yeah...sharks don't eat atty's out of professional courtesy... Anyone--still need advice on this... [/subtle thread BUMP!] Are you concerned about your buddy suing you ? No, more concerned about pissing off a friend. But it is an entry-level job, so... I dunno. What if it were the other way around. Would a company have any hesitation in firing you if your help was no longer in its best interest? I doubt it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
