Andy_Copland 0 #1 December 25, 2008 In the UK its 18 jumps assuming you pass all 8 levels, no packing required. US is 25 assuming. Packing inculuded. Im curious as to what AFF is exactly in other parts of the world.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #2 December 25, 2008 AFF in the US varies, depending on which program the DZ adheres to and how they run it and assuming each level is passed with one jump. An A license is 25 jumps, but one is passed from AFF (usually) before one receives their A license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #3 December 25, 2008 Sorry DSE, i should have been clearer (fucking beer) Minimum for an A and the requirements1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #4 December 25, 2008 QuoteSorry DSE, i should have been clearer (fucking beer) Minimum for an A and the requirements See FAI web site for CoP for each license level. eg the minimums. Any country may require more for each license. In general, you may find these requirements on each country's NAC web site. Google is your friend. .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #5 December 25, 2008 In Canada, after you have made your 7-8 AFF levels successfully + an evaluation jump with cameraman and you have reach about 9-12 jumps at all minimum, you get a SOLO certificate (formerly "self supervised" endorsement) after passing an oral exam comprising of about 40-50 questions and getting a review of Emergency Procedures. As a SOLO certificate holder you still are under an instructor supervision and then you start working on your A license requirements. A SOLO certificate doesn't make you a licensed skydiver and you cannot sign up somebody else jump but you can go by yourself, spot and jump after refering with an instructor on the ground.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #6 December 28, 2008 Australian AFF is 9 stages. Main guidelines for the A license, 10 unassisted landings within 25m of target + packing your main chute. Most students at my DZ I've seen stay on radio till at least jump 7 so that's ~17 jumps to A license if you ace everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 December 28, 2008 QuoteIn Canada, after you have made your 7-8 AFF levels successfully + an evaluation jump with cameraman and you have reach about 9-12 jumps at all minimum, you get a SOLO certificate (formerly "self supervised" endorsement) after passing an oral exam comprising of about 40-50 questions and getting a review of Emergency Procedures. As a SOLO certificate holder you still are under an instructor supervision and then you start working on your A license requirements. A SOLO certificate doesn't make you a licensed skydiver and you cannot sign up somebody else jump but you can go by yourself, spot and jump after refering with an instructor on the ground. While the system you describe is interesting and certainly within CSPA guidelines it is peculiar to your dZ only, I think. The CSPA system has a few paths like the USPA system with the most common one in use (by DZ) being one or two IADs followed by a 5 or 6 level PFF program. This is followed by a few supervised solo jumps to complete tasks like spotting, accuracy canopy tasks etc. At the larger DZs (and so the more common in terms of actual students) Tandem to PFF is used. There is no requirement for a video jump. First jump PFF is allowed, but not in common use. A standard progression "RAPS" style system is also common. The SOLO certificate is after 10 jumps and follows an oral exam of 10 questions. It is a true Certificate of Proficiency and the novice is not under an instructor. The novice is restricted to solo jumps and 2 ways with a coach. Higher minimum opening and lower maximum wind limits are in effect. AADs are mandatory for solo certificate jumpers An A CoP has a minimum of 25 jumps and includes a minimum of 5 two-ways with a coach-2 including docking, levels and tracking tasks. Further canopy and accuracy skill demonstrations are also required as well as a written multiple choice exam of 80 questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #8 December 28, 2008 Thanks Andrew for the precision. My DZ doesn't offer the PFF/AFF now. We are using the IAD system after one tandem jump. In my post I was explaining the basics of what is the AFF in Canada. You gave a more detailed explanation and you showed how the AAF program can be modified. You said 10 questions for the Solo, I just asked more than 40 two and half months ago to a Solo candidate. Our DZ wants to make sure that few things are known and understood by the Solo certificate holder. As a solo certificate holder, an instructor doesn't have to supervise you in the airplane but you still have to refer to an instructor or coach on the ground in order to have a follow up. Just like taking a pilot course. Being solo allows you to fly an airplane alone but first an instructor has to sign you on. As you explained, a solo doesn't have the green light to do whatever he wants unlike a licensed jumper (within the list of privileges given by his license).Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #9 December 29, 2008 Quote In general, you may find these requirements on each country's NAC web site. Surely it'll be nice for people have it one place then rather that trawl all the websites. Quote Google is your friend Not useful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #10 January 5, 2009 and outside the US, the UK and canada, there might be a couple more languages to know too.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonija 0 #11 January 5, 2009 If DZs organise course for foreigners then they also advertise in foreign (usually English) language.I understand the need for conformity. Without a concise set of rules to follow we would probably all have to resort to common sense. -David Thorne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #12 January 5, 2009 mine doesnt! and also the organisation has its website in the countries national languages only.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #13 January 6, 2009 QuoteIn the UK its 18 jumps assuming you pass all 8 levels, no packing required. Plus CH1 - you have a specific canopy handling requirement to obtain before you get your A now - theory exam and practical requirement. Packing's not required for the A but a seperate qualification is required to pack a main for another to jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
