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I have pretty must been ignoring the assholes around here since I got myself banned.But I must say I completely disagree with you about this person.When you act like that the only impression you are making is negative.And just because you say something funny every once in a blue moon does not excuse the rest of you behavior.I could be the funniest fucker in the world but if I went to a funeral to tell death jokes I would still be an asshole.


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But my experience with people like him (as he has shown himself here) is extensive, and I have seen how they manage to worm their way into the good graces of those who are not perceptive enough to realize that they will one day be just another victim.



So youre saying that one day I will be personally upset By them because I have let them worm theyre way into my "family"?
I think that they are a lot better than that.
Iwont spend time being a naval gazer worrying if I get hurt.
It would take a huge amount to get me upset.

I have been through many bad times in my life almost to the point of committing suicide, but hey I lift my head push my shoulders back and get the fuck on with it.



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I've had a very interesting life starting from the time I was quite small, and in the 47 years since, it hasn't gotten any less interesting. I know others who have had interesting lives as well. Having bad things happen to one is no excuse for cruelty. It just isn't. It's worse to know what pain is and inflict it, than to have no real understanding and inflict it unknowingly.



As I said Im not defending their hurtful posts at all.


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If you want to chastise people for making mistakes and not like them then thats your perogative not mine.



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I didn't say you couldn't like him. Feel free. Just don't say that I should.



Nobody tells me who I should like or not.
I make up my own mind about people.
First impressions do count I know as a external sales person.
If you offend you have to be prepared to defend yourself.


Life is way too short for moping and naval gazing.


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I should probably stay out of this, but near as I can tell, there is a pattern here. He trolls, he baits, he insults and finally gets what he wants- a lot of poeple pissed off at him. Then he whines that the bonfire is cliquish and no one understands his sense of humor and he's being punished for not "conforming"! Then someone steps up and defends him. Didn't all this just happen a few weeks ago too? Whatever! For the most part, I ignore his threads and I don't understand why other people don't follow suit. Its not worth getting upset about because as far as I can see, that's exactly what he wants.

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I should probably stay out of this, but near as I can tell, there is a pattern here. He trolls, he baits, he insults and finally gets what he wants- a lot of poeple pissed off at him. Then he whines that the bonfire is cliquish and no one understands his sense of humor and he's being punished for not "conforming"! Then someone steps up and defends him. Didn't all this just happen a few weeks ago too? Whatever! For the most part, I ignore his threads and I don't understand why other people don't follow suit. Its not worth getting upset about because as far as I can see, that's exactly what he wants.



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Tigra, I swear, I opened this thread and had to check the date; I thought this was the old incident. Almost exactly the same pattern, it would seem...with nearly identical results. Oh well. At least there's consistency, you know?

And as RL stated, you can lead a rough/interesting/challenging life, and that still is no excuse for meanness and belligerence. When one encounters difficulty, one can choose their response for the long term. Choose to grow from that experience, or choose to allow it to close you down. The choice made will affect the rest of your life, all the rest of your relationships, all the rest of your interactions with the world at large and on a personal level.

If bad experiences were a good enough excuse for being deliberately harmful, I'd be the meanest bitch on this planet. It's just not a good excuse...slanted perspectives being what they are, some allowances can be made for some experiences, but deliberate provocation and meanness has no excuse nor explanation valid enough for me.

But hey, we're all allowed our own opinion...

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Michele


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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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I dont think hes trying to be deliberatly harmful.
Just thought provoking.

Anyway I have said enough for this person for now.
Its just a shame that most people turned to hate him without even getting to know him at all.

I thought we were all a family?
Dont you have someone you dont like in your family , but try to get along with them as best as possible?


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Its just a shame that most people turned to hate him without even getting to know him at all.


Oh, I don't have hate for him...more like apathy. I care about several posters on this thread, however. Thus my opinion.

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Dont you have someone you dont like in your family , but try to get along with them as best as possible?


Actually, no, I don't have anyone in my family I don't like. Sorry. There are many people here who I don't care for at all, but most often it's not based on a web-only interaction, but rather face to face stuff, and actions taken by them which are hurtful and mean. But again, not in my family.

As for us here at DZ.com being a big family, I don't think so at all. I think this is a great place, but it most certainly doesn't come before my family. Will I go out of my way to make sure someone is all right who posts here? Yes, of course, and I have in the past many times (and will do so again and again, as long as I'm asked or see the need). But it really isn't a family...it's a group of very diverse people who post on a website who share a common activity and/or background and/or living, no more or less.

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Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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anyone who believes a post, thread or discussion on the internet to be an example of "the worst" or "the best" in people REALLY needs to get out and experience life a lot more....
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I have been a member on this site for over 3 yrs now and I dont know of any other member having such an impact on the bonfire



obviously not, if this is your first experience with a common type of attention seeking, or you think he had ANY REAL effect at all... on the Bonfire, DZ.com or anything more than a few hundred, mostly pointless posts.....

he isnt the first, wont be the last, and isnt even the best or most amusing troll on this forum, much less the internet...

so wtf are you getting excited about?? :S
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Im not getting excited.

I dont belive hes trying to gain attention in here either.

There are plenty of other posters out there that crave it a whole lot more. Go look in the womens only forum for attention seekers.

Im just completelty amazed at the reaction that one person could generate.

Its starting to feel like BUSH V Saddam.

"Hes an evil man. Lets do away with him. Come on world follow us. Lets get him"

BTW that is not a Bush comment. :P


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There are plenty of other posters out there that crave it a whole lot more. Go look in the womens only forum for attention seekers.


Erm, well, I think your comment about the women's only forum might be a tad off, but hey, whatever.

Your point is that there are some who attention seek...and sure, I'll give you that. It's not as meanspirited and vicious as some others, and perhaps that is what is being discussed? And perhaps that is why it's tolerated from some and not others - it's the manner in which the attention is being sought which is different.

Irrespective of all that, I hope you have a pleasant evening...and not let this get to you too badly.

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Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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Erm, well, I think your comment about the women's only forum might be a tad off, but hey, whatever.


Why?
I try to include everyone in my discussions about attention seeking.

Am I seeking it by replying to your posts?
Are you seeking it even more by replying to my replies?

Do you want the last word?


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Your point is that there are some who attention seek...and sure, I'll give you that. It's not as meanspirited and vicious as some others, and perhaps that is what is being discussed? And perhaps that is why it's tolerated from some and not others - it's the manner in which the attention is being sought which is different.



I am discussing the fact that many people seemed to jump straight onto this person and scold him in a public forum.
Yeah he said something that I didnt agree with, but you dont see me jumping all over all the people that offend or upset me.

I may be homophobic and hate the gay thread, but you wouldnt see me jumping all over the thread starter.


I though pm's were for that purpose.


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Irrespective of all that, I hope you have a pleasant evening...and not let this get to you too badly.



What a load of old tosh. If you think defending someone would get to me, then youre wrong.

There aint a lot of people out there that will say what they mean. Those that do have my respect


Ill sleep better in my bed tonight than most.


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Ill sleep better in my bed tonight than most.



who with and are you bringing them to Picton, does she have a friend:)

Matt this is getting all to silly mate. REMEMBER it's only the internet:D:D:D:D:D
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
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What a load of old tosh. If you think defending someone would get to me, then youre wrong.

There aint a lot of people out there that will say what they mean. Those that do have my respect


I think it's time I go make dinner....have a great evening (or day, seeing as you're in NZ). Sleep well....

Ciels-
Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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Hey dude.
I have experienced more in my last 5 yrs than most people experienced in their whole lives so dont be coming with that experience life bullshit to me.



How old are you?

There's more to come. Get ready.

rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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What if some people are more sociable than others and choose to have a laugh with people?



Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything wrong with the non-skydiving related forums, they are there to used. What I am saying is there are different types of people on this board, 2 of the primary ones are 1) Those that come here to learn/discuss/read/ask questions about skydiving in the skydiving related forums. There are also 2) alot of people that are here primarily for the social aspect, to read and post about all things Frenchy, and among other things, post whore back and forth with other "Type 2" posters (not saying there is anything wrong with doing that if its within the rules of the forum, just observing that type of poster does exist).

Anyways, my point was and still is, that its the Type 2 poster, that typically seems to be embroiled in intense debate about this or that, takes things personally, retaliates with PAs and ends up getting threads locked, banned, etc.

Does it happen in other forums? Sure, I'm just saying there is alot more of it in the non-skydiving related forums and its typically that Type 2 poster involved.

Ultimately, as long as we abide by the rules, I guess it doesnt really matter why we are here, where we post, or how many posts we make.

My whole post here in this thread was simply to say to the original poster (as I said in my 1st line, 1st post): Who cares?

This is the internet, its not real, go outside, talk to a girl, get away from the pc from time to time......lol

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