AlexCrowley 0 #51 December 19, 2005 I see that you've met Icon. Please see my previous post where I prove that aliens exist using the same 'evidence'. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #52 December 19, 2005 i can barely figure out how to resize the darn pics to get them uploaded like i said, a neurologic dog cant torque its body into any position not otherwise possible (they dont bend their joints backwards or anything) but if you refuse to believe science, then i guess you will continue to believe in your 'faith' of choice Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #53 December 19, 2005 No, I agreed with you. If the dog has psychological problems then it may very well be able to look up. Even though many would argue the definition of 'looking up' in this particular case. There's no faith involved in the discussion. A normal healthy dog, based on the available scientific (and not 'photoshopic') evidence, is unable to look up - without the need to modify its body position or elevate its forepaws. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #54 December 19, 2005 CNS (central nervous system) NOT psycological the position is physically possible ie they are able to for a neurologic dog the stimulus is neurologic for a non-neurologic dog the stimulus would be food, person, bird, horse about to trample its head in, etc ,etc. you are pretty bored again today huh? dont you have a car to work on or something??Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #55 December 19, 2005 QuoteCNS (central nervous system) NOT psycological Sure, split hairs if you must. Humans have an appendix, physically we're supposed to be able to absorb poisons in our system - however, as you know we have evolved beyond the need to use it and if we ingested a bottle of rat poison would discover quickly that it is no longer effective. Do you see my point? The car fell through and wouldnt fit in my office anyway. This week I'm learning Japanese and 3d game development while trying to understand the details of canine physiology. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #56 December 19, 2005 Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #57 December 19, 2005 well if you want to learn about canine physiology I suggest vet school Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #58 December 19, 2005 wow, I realize that you may not agree with NtheSeaOrSky but calling them an idiot is a little freaking harsh. dont you think? TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #59 December 19, 2005 Ive been called worse Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #60 December 19, 2005 I dont think thats going to fit in my office either. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #61 December 19, 2005 As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Meat is the anagram of team... I don't know what he was talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #62 December 19, 2005 Can dogs look up? Just ask my dachshund, EVERYTHING is up to him... lol Yes, they can (and do) look upThe only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #63 December 19, 2005 I'm sorry, as we've proved pretty much conclusively here, unless the dog has a CNS disorder it is unable to look up - it just isnt natural for them. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #64 December 19, 2005 http://www.spiceweasel.net/gallery/cp4200/DSCN0166 It's a photoshop, obviously.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 #65 December 19, 2005 Two words Bird Dog duh --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #66 December 19, 2005 alw, dogs have an excellent sense of hearing and smell. At no point do they look upwards. It's all done using their other senses. C'mon. I know this is complex but its perfectly logical if you give it more than a cursory thought. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #67 December 19, 2005 of course TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #69 December 19, 2005 Aren't the birds usually a) dead, and b) on the ground before the bird dogs pick them up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #70 December 20, 2005 That looks like Rubber Johnny. www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #71 December 20, 2005 I'll keep that in mind the next time my dachshund walks thru the living room and looks UP at the window sill to see if the cat is sleeping on it....The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #72 December 20, 2005 The obvious problem here is that people are interpreting "look up" to mean "tilt their head back so that their eyes are cast in an upward direction." But that activity is not so much "looking up" as it is "tilting head back." In order to truly "look up" one must be able to cast their eyes in an upward direction, while keeping their head stationary. An act that everyone knows dogs are utterly incapable of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #73 December 20, 2005 I knew I couldnt be the only one who knew this fact. Thanks Lindercles. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 #74 December 20, 2005 QuoteAren't the birds usually a) dead, and b) on the ground before the bird dogs pick them up? Anyone that has spent a cold winter morning in a duck blind with a VGDX knows the answer. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #75 December 20, 2005 I think the better question is Alex, can you lick your own balls? If not, does that make the dog a superior species???Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
