SkydiveStMarys 0 #26 January 7, 2006 "Reading the "I'm outta here" if it gets too bad comments are a cavalier attitude that bolsters the ego somewhat by taking for granted that we actually HAVE that option. " For me...if I couldn't do it myself...I have "set-up", much like you friend has asked you, loved ones that know my wants and desires and are willing and able to help me in that aspect. Actually I would have people pushing and shoving to get to the plug first. Bobbi BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #27 January 7, 2006 QuoteI really don't know at this point, but I have a suspicion I may know the answer to that...and the cavalier mantra, in reality is nothing more than just that...words. My closest friend in the world took his own life in June 2004. He was only in his early 50s, but he had incapacitating health problems that were not going to improve. For quite a few years before that it was one of the recurrent themes of the many philosophical discussions we had (about a year before he died, in particular, there was one three month period when we spent five and more hours a day on the phone every single day, and it came up quite a bit). My only issue with suicide is not making a mess for someone else to clean up or creating a situation where hapless bystander will be scarred for life. I don't think I would ask a friend to help me off myself. If it came down to that, I guess I'd just play the hand I was dealt, because I don't think you offer that kind of moral quandary to anyone. My daughter used to say (when she was in her early teens), "Don't worry, Mom, I'll just shoot ya." She now understands that it wouldn't be a good idea, although at the time, it was a loving gesture (given the context of the discussions in which it came up). But asking someone to pull the plug (act in accordance with the standard precepts of a living will) is a different matter. So if I can't do it myself in a non-scarring, non-messy way, everyone knows I want an immediate DNR. But as I said, barring the unforeseen catastrophe, after which I will not be able to act for myself, I have little doubt of my ability to do the job. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #28 January 7, 2006 "But asking someone to pull the plug (act in accordance with the standard precepts of a living will) is a different matter. " EXACTLY!! Mantra, mantra, mantra.... BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites