I need Jury Duty Help

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The alternative to a somewhat conscripted jury system is hired and paid jurors. Somehow that doesn't sound better. It's not always (OK, rarely) convenient. But neither is brushing my teeth.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Brushing my teeth takes 5 minutes and keeps my teeth healthy... attending jury duty takes a lot longer, pisses me off, and makes me skip at least a day of work.

Like I said, they can go fuck themselves. There are plenty of housewives and unemployment/welfare recipients out there... make them do it.

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Never been to Jury duty. Had a warrent out once, but it went away. It is not that I mean to forget about jury duty, but I always seem to lose my slip with the phone number on it.

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I have a job. I'm not going to miss a day of work to fulfill some "duty" I apparently have to work for the government...

You have the right to be sentenced by a jury of your peers. You don't think that right involves an obligation to step in on the other side of the table if needed? You don't think that right is worth some of your time?

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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No, it's not.

Stop trying to make it sound like the government is doing me a favor by giving me that "right" too, please. Most of the jurors who end up getting picked are people I wouldn't trust to fairly judge me anyway.

I'm going to tell you a few things about myself:

I hate lawyers.
I hate judges.
I will do anything I can to make their jobs more difficult if I am ever put into a position to do so.

Would you want me as a juror if you were on trial?

Didn't think so.

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Brushing my teeth takes 5 minutes and keeps my teeth healthy... attending jury duty takes a lot longer, pisses me off, and makes me skip at least a day of work.

Like I said, they can go fuck themselves. There are plenty of housewives and unemployment/welfare recipients out there... make them do it.

So, those are the peers you'd rather have judging you? Nothing against housewives and the unemployed, but frankly I'd prefer a nice cross-section at my trial.

Not that I plan on putting myself in that postion, of course!



I have jury duty tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to it. I don't have to be here at work, I can read my book, people watch, and participate in a legal process that keeps this joint running.

It's all good.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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To each his/her own.

I'll tell you all what though... as soon as I am given a fair amount of money to attend jury duty, and that money is deducted from the paychecks of the laywers and the judge, I'll attend with a smile.

If I am ever in a situation where I am left with no choice but to attend to avoid being arrested, I will be "sick" that day and take something to ensure I am able to vomit on a lawyer when the time comes.

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No, it's not.

OK. Guess you've got to prioritize in your busy schedule.

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Stop trying to make it sound like the government is doing me a favor by giving me that "right" too, please.

*sigh*

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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You have the right to be sentenced by a jury of your peers. You don't think that right involves an obligation to step in on the other side of the table if needed? You don't think that right is worth some of your time?

You mentioned this whole Jury of our peers thing. Is anyone ever tried by a jury of thier peers. I am sure if there was ever an EMT on trial and I was there for the selection process they would probibly dismiss me. I mean come on how many retired football players were on OJ Simpsons Jury. How do they define "Peer?"

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2 things...

1.) I just noticed that you're not even a US citizen. As soon as you can prove that you've lived in the US long enough to understand how fucked up our legal system is, you can continue to comment.

2.) You're a student... so the pathetic attempt at sarcastically implying that I don't have a busy schedule doesn't work.

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I don't vote either

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2.) You're a student... so the pathetic attempt at sarcastically implying that I don't have a busy schedule doesn't work.

I am a student. I am taking more than a full-time class load, maintaining an A- GPA, and working 30-35 hours a week. The demands on my time are high. When I got my last notice, I went, and I lost a job because of it. And even though my last two jobs were for insurance lawyers, I didn't manage to get out of being selected for a trial. Most people who think they know how fucked up the legal system is only base their knowledge on hearsay, urban legends, and Law & Order reruns.

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So you're saying that it's WAY worse than we think?

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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i'm glad to see someone else that wants to do jury duty. i've never been called for jury duty, but would love to do it. i am a stay at home dad, so its not like i'd be losing out on any money. i do however understand why people would want to get out of it though. at one time, my finances were so tight, (i didn't even skydive during that time) that if i had to take a day off work i wouldn't have been able to pay all of my bills that month. conversely, i've also been in situations that being called for jury duty for just one day would have disqualified me from jobs costing me thousands of dollars. either way it can be very invasive and detrimental to a person's finances. i don't know what can be done about it, except ask that the people who won't be adversly effected by it, such as myself, do everything in their power to show up for jury duty when called.

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Good for you.

You like making sacrifices for a system which keeps lawyers rich, sets scumbags free, and prosecutes the innocent... and I don't.

Are you going to try to tell me that no scumbags are ever set free? Are you also going to try to tell me that the innocent are never found guilty? Are you going to tell me that lawyers are good people, and also underpaid? Are you going to tell me that there are no corrupt judges?

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Hey I would do it if I could just go down on one of my days off and be like hey can I be on a jury, but it dosen't work that way.

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That's just it - I have no excuse not to go. I'm salaried, non-essential personnel, and it's Friday, the least productive day of the week. Nothing will fall apart if I do this.

Losing a job or money or missing class are valid reasons not to go. Hating lawyers or being a whiney baby about it are not valid reasons to skip.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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if it worked that way, i think a lot of people would do that, but i think there would be problems with that.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
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Good for you.

You like making sacrifices for a system which keeps lawyers rich, sets scumbags free, and prosecutes the innocent... and I don't.

Are you going to try to tell me that no scumbags are ever set free? Are you also going to try to tell me that the innocent are never found guilty? Are you going to tell me that lawyers are good people, and also underpaid? Are you going to tell me that there are no corrupt judges?

And good for you too. Stand outside the process and bitch about it, but don't you dare compromise yourself by getting in there and participating.

It's like donating more money for the lawyers to spend on hookers and drugs.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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1.) I just noticed that you're not even a US citizen. As soon as you can prove that you've lived in the US long enough to understand how fucked up our legal system is, you can continue to comment.

How cute. Do I have to ask your permission to post in other threads?

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2.) You're a student... so the pathetic attempt at sarcastically implying that I don't have a busy schedule doesn't work.

You caught the sarcasm. Good for you. You misunderstood it, however. I was merely saying that perhaps this is one of those things you should make time for.

As for my student status, I get a decent salary on my three year contract with the university, so I am not complaining. What was your point in mentioning it?

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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Are you going to try to tell me that no scumbags are ever set free? Are you also going to try to tell me that the innocent are never found guilty? Are you going to tell me that lawyers are good people, and also underpaid? Are you going to tell me that there are no corrupt judges?

So you only don't participate because it's not perfect (nowhere close)?

Would it be better with the participation of unbiased folks?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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And good for you too. Stand outside the process and bitch about it, but don't you dare compromise yourself by getting in there and participating.

It's like donating more money for the lawyers to spend on hookers and drugs.

We have different views on this... and that's fine. You're not going to sit here and try to make me look like an asshole for it, though.

You stated in an earlier post that you were a non-essential employee. I don't have that luxury.

There's a reason why I never take sick days and have only taken somewhere around 9 vacation days in the past 3 years... and it's not because I'm never sick or don't have enough vacation days available.

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How can you be sure I'm sitting?

I'm not trying to make you look like anything.

I've just gotten the impression that you avoid jury duty not because you're essential (which is a valid reason to be excused), but because you refuse to be part of the process based on your feelings towards lawyers, judges, and scumbags getting off.

Your dissatisfaction with the system is not, IMHO, a good enough reason to ditch.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Your dissatisfaction with the system is not, IMHO, a good enough reason to ditch.

That's you opinion, and I disagree.

Even if that was my only reason, I would still be justified as far as I'm concerned. As I said before, I'm not going to go get paid $5 to become a part of a process which makes lawyers and judges wealthy. I'm also not going to go through that just to uphold some system that has never done and probably will never do a thing for me... besides awarding >$100k to a drunk driver who hurt herself when she t-boned my car doing 80mph.

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So you're saying that it's WAY worse than we think?

No, it was interesting. Not something I'd do every day for fun, but I'm glad I did it.

I have a feeling that people who can make broad statement like calling the the courts "a system which keeps lawyers rich, sets scumbags free, and prosecutes the innocent" with a straight face don't understand the legal system very well. Do some lawyers get rich? Sure. Most don't. As an entry-level IT guy at a law firm, working hourly, without a college degree, I was making more than some of the lawyers. Some scumbags are set free. It's an unfortunate side effect of juries and an overcrowded legal system. Innocent people do go to trial and some are even convicted, but thanks to juries, most go free.