freebirdtif 0 #1 February 21, 2008 Is it ok to double wrap a rubber band for the line stows if it is pretty loose in the rubber band? I know its a simple question but I never learned to pack well and I am learning now after having to be out of the sport a while. I am back now and I want to be the best packer for my rig and know all about my rig. I read in Parachutist that you should not double wrap a stow that are not rubberbands a.......... tube stow I believe........... but it did not elaborate on weather or not if it is OK to double rubberbands............if they are really loose of course tHANK YOU- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 February 21, 2008 It depends. It depends on the band and the line. Get your local rigger to look at it and give you an answer for your situation. You should already be using the proper sized band for the type of lines that you have.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #3 February 21, 2008 if you watch this video by PD on packing they have some specific recommnedations on double stowing lines. http://www.90percent.it/news/PDPacking.wmv"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustChuteMeNow 0 #4 February 21, 2008 Quote Is it ok to double wrap a rubber band for the line stows if it is pretty loose in the rubber band? Yes it is OK to double stow your rubber bands and this is normal for people who use large rubber bands. In answer to your question about looseness you should be able to lift up your D-bag by the lines and the stows should not be released. You are trying to have tension of around 8-12 pounds on your line stows. If you are not sure ask your friendly neighborhood rigger.The PD video is a great video for people learning how to pack.Think of how stupid the average person is and realize that statistically half of them are stupider than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halfpastniner 0 #5 February 21, 2008 If ya cant double rap the bands withouth making your fingers bleed, they probably dont need to be double stowedLike the others said the line thinckness and band size makes a difference. Dont double band tube stows. Actually just dont use tube stows BASE 1384 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 February 21, 2008 It is okay to doulble-warp Tube Stows, just don't double-wrap them around your lines. Instead, double wrap (2 X lark's head knot) them around the nylon strap sewn on your d-bag. See the Tube Stow instruction sheet for details. Tube Stows work great as long as they are the correct size for your lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #7 February 21, 2008 Thats exactly what i done with my tube stows. I saw 3 different ways of attatching them to the Dbag itself to give the amount of tension you need.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #8 February 21, 2008 In answer to your question about looseness you should be able to lift up your D-bag by the lines and the stows should not be released. You are trying to have tension of around 8-12 pounds on your line stows. Quote That "fact" has been debated here many times. If it were true then bandless bags wouldn't work. The locking stows obviously must be tight, all the others just have to keep the lines orderly. OTOH having 8-12 lbs. tension on the stows won't hurt anything either.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kingbunky 3 #9 February 21, 2008 my locking stows will hold the bag closed when i pick it up by the lines, but once the lines are below the cascades, they slip out when i try. i use small bands and the tube-stow double larks head trick to tighten them up. no dice. i think (in my vast experience ) that as long as the locking stows hold and the rest of them hold the lines well enough to ensure an orderly release, it should be good. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kingbunky 3 #9 February 21, 2008 my locking stows will hold the bag closed when i pick it up by the lines, but once the lines are below the cascades, they slip out when i try. i use small bands and the tube-stow double larks head trick to tighten them up. no dice. i think (in my vast experience ) that as long as the locking stows hold and the rest of them hold the lines well enough to ensure an orderly release, it should be good. "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
