mailin 0 #76 January 24, 2006 QuoteI just downsized to a 190.......it would take me an hour to pack a large canopy...... Huh? I jump a 190... doesn't take me an hour to pack. It did in the begining, until I learned how to do it. Learning how to pack will give you a better understanding of how your gear works, which could help you understand a bit more about this line twist problem you are having. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porterhouse 0 #77 January 24, 2006 You are overlooking one very important and positive thing: At a very low number of jumps, you can be 100% certain of your ability to handle multiple types of malfunctions. Some people have 1,000 jumps and have never had to chop...they might be a very good jumper, but they can't say with 100% confidence that they will be able to perform correctly when it's all on the line. You can. Now, I have to appologize in advance for the remainder of this long winded response (and sorry to be a buzz kill by getting serious on what was a very funny post so far). I had a very similar experience/feeling when I started jumping (Line over/chop/line twists/hard openings/getting caught in a flat spin on my back without being able to recover, step throughs, etc....all before 50 jumps). I felt like everything that could go wrong did. The biggest thing that kept me going was making sure I learned from every single incident. Everytime something went wrong, I took a step back and made sure I learned what caused the problem. More importantly, I made sure I learned what I had to do to make sure it never happened again before I did another jump. Making mistakes is perfectly OK, as long as you learn from them and you don't make them twice. Ask questions. If you're experiencing the same problems over and over again, try slowing down a bit. Relax. The sky isn't going anywhere. Take a step back and breath. Remember, you can't jump when your injured. Find someone with experience who you trust. Figure out what keeps going wrong, and figure out what you have to do to fix it. After the jumping is done for the day, grab an instructor, offer them a beer, and tell them you need help. (It's amazing what beer will do!) I'm going to be a bit direct here, so please don't take offense: Learn to pack! "If I packed my own it would take an hour"....again, please don't take offense....but that's a cop out. I don't know anyone who liked packing and found packing easy at first. (Come to think of it, I don't know any experienced jumpers who like to pack either.) It takes almost everyone a long time to packat first, and it's frustrating. You just have to keep at it. Packing will get you familiar with the gear your jumping. And that will make your jumps safer. You can't learn how to skydive by reading a book...you learn by doing it. The same goes for packing. Start packing your own canopy. Again, slow down. Take your time. And find someone you trust to help you if you need it. Be humble. Asking for help will make you safer will earn you respect. It's better to learn from 3 safe jumps in a day with no problems, than to do 7 jumps in a day with 5 problems and no learning involved. As for whether or not you should keep jumping. That decision has to be 100% up to you. With what is at stake, you should only be up there if you really want to be. You can't be up there for someone else. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #79 January 24, 2006 Two words: Body position. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #80 January 25, 2006 Quote That was a compliment, silly. You don't appear to have any man-boobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #81 January 25, 2006 But I want to be in touch with my feminine side . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #82 January 25, 2006 QuoteBut I want to be in touch with my feminine side . Didn't that happen years agohttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenaswampjumper 0 #83 January 25, 2006 thanks for the long winded response......that was more of what i was looking for!!!!!!!!! till later have fun & love each other seeya mb65johnny gates.... In skydiving, the only thing that stops you is the ground.............. PMS# 472 Muff #3863 TPM#95 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenaswampjumper 0 #84 January 25, 2006 i have been watched on opening on a few jumps......everyone says that it doesn't appear to be body positon till later have fun & love each other seeya mb65johnny gates.... In skydiving, the only thing that stops you is the ground.............. PMS# 472 Muff #3863 TPM#95 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #85 January 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteOr the size of your BOOBIES! I've never met bob.dino, but in the photos I've seen, his boobies are nothing to write home about. [sigh] Don't feel bad, bob.dino, nobody ever gets excited about mine either, even though I think they look kind of ok. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #86 January 25, 2006 MY EYES OWWWWWSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #87 January 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOr the size of your BOOBIES! I've never met bob.dino, but in the photos I've seen, his boobies are nothing to write home about. [sigh] Don't feel bad, bob.dino, nobody ever gets excited about mine either, even though I think they look kind of ok. Walt _________________________________ Isn't that Mel Gibson in that picture?????????? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #88 January 25, 2006 Quotei have been watched on opening on a few jumps......everyone says that it doesn't appear to be body positon __________________________________ The reason I said that was, when I was first getting started, I was goin' nuts, because of line twists. Everyone told me the same thing... 'body position'. In my case, I worked and worked on 'body position' and the line-twist problem went away. I've found also, it is very difficult, for someone on the ground, to see exactly what someone is doing at opening altitude. Packing, could be a problem but, I haven't seen that to be the case, too often. I would suggest getting with instructors or coaches and make jumps with them. Pull high, so they can observe you. From what you've said, I think you have to really work at it. Good luck to you and I hope, it works in your favor. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenaswampjumper 0 #89 January 25, 2006 i have had some great openings......when certain people have packed for me like Kramer......and the people observing me are jumping with me and watching me deploy...not on the ground watching.......but thanks for the advice....I will try and do a couple of jumps with instructors to get their opinion till later have fun & love each other seeya mb65johnny gates.... In skydiving, the only thing that stops you is the ground.............. PMS# 472 Muff #3863 TPM#95 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #90 January 25, 2006 QuoteBut I want to be in touch with my feminine side . I thought it was *my* feminine side you wanted to be in touch with ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #91 January 25, 2006 QuoteThe reason I said that was, when I was first getting started, I was goin' nuts, because of line twists. Everyone told me the same thing... 'body position'. In my case, I worked and worked on 'body position' and the line-twist problem went away. I agree. That is almost always the cause. If someone wants to video the opening and slo-mo the video frame-by-frame, that is helpful. Going over it carefully about it on the ground may help identify the problem. 1. Becoming unstable when reaching. If you reach with your right hand, it could raise your right shoulder. This would cause your left shoulder to be lower and take the majority of the opening shock. 2. Having forward movement. If you are moving forward, then reaching, can cause a small turn sometimes. (With more jumps, it is not as great a problem.) A small turn with forward motion is a small spin. That turn while dumping will translate into line twists. (This is not your problem, but one that I have.) Because I am fall-rate enhanced, I sometimes jump with swoop cords. I try to remember to take them off before dumping. They can easily make me unstable when I reach. I jump an elliptical, so a little mistake gets magnified. (edited for grammar) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benforde 0 #92 January 25, 2006 ...soo, has she shown them yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #93 January 25, 2006 You make some very good points in what you said. The things you pointed-out, are things I noticed with myself when I was learning. Dipping a shoulder when reaching to pull! I realized I was doing that. It took me about 10-jumps but, I fixed my problem. Voila... no more line twists. It doesn't take very much, to induce line twists. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #94 January 25, 2006 Your feminine side is too far away for me to touch . I'll just have to go find myself a cheap floozy instead . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #95 February 4, 2006 For anyone reading this thread, there is an excellent article on this in Skydiving Mags Feb. issue. Page 14 - Body Language: Helping your canopy open better. Good pictures too. Interesting points: Head high position will translate the opening shock farther down. Head low moves it towards the shoulders. How looking will affect your shoulder position. My fav part. Once it opens, clear your airspace first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
