goose491 0 #26 February 16, 2006 Quotepeople, people...what ever happened to actually calling the issuing court and checking the make sure that your ticket was paid, and that there were no other charges against you. its your life, manage it like it matters. hell, try treating this stuff like you skydiving rig...keep it current and check it often. duh! Hey I wasn't bitchin'... sh*t happens right? As far as calling the issuing court? Are you kidding? It is made purposely difficult and annoying to deal with these offices over the phone. My check was cashed, that was good enough for me. ... besides, I was never made to pay the $15 balance. They had raised the amount early, incompetents that they are. I only noticed this because I was on hold or being transfered between equally uninformative people for 90% of the time I spent on the phone with the issuing office the next day and chose to go over the dates on the ticket. My cheque was cashed two days prior to the deadline. It's a good thing the officer allowed me to drive home that night, or I'd be in battle against the city to reimburse a hefty towing bill... such a battle would probably go right on into my retirement years with the way they work. lol My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #27 February 16, 2006 QuoteQuotepeople, people...what ever happened to actually calling the issuing court and checking the make sure that your ticket was paid, and that there were no other charges against you. its your life, manage it like it matters. hell, try treating this stuff like you skydiving rig...keep it current and check it often. duh! Hey I wasn't bitchin'... sh*t happens right? As far as calling the issuing court? Are you kidding? It is made purposely difficult and annoying to deal with these offices over the phone. My check was cashed, that was good enough for me. ... besides, I was never made to pay the $15 balance. They had raised the amount early, incompetents that they are. I only noticed this because I was on hold or being transfered between equally uninformative people for 90% of the time I spent on the phone with the issuing office the next day and chose to go over the dates on the ticket. My cheque was cashed two days prior to the deadline. It's a good thing the officer allowed me to drive home that night, or I'd be in battle against the city to reimburse a hefty towing bill... such a battle would probably go right on into my retirement years with the way they work. lol no worries, i wasnt slaming you. but, your right, most of the people that work at the court hate thier jobs, and are unhappy and constantly screw up things, ALL THE MORE REASON TO CHECK UP ON THIER ASS! kind of like me, i am a general contractor, and you bet that i watch my subs like a hawk. people constantly doing a half ass job, and who gets the crap, you and me. well, if your there to make it right the first time, its just that, right. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloStenRacing 0 #28 February 16, 2006 Quoteexpired tags...only gave me a warning Well he was WORKING. Last I checked expired tags didn't have holidays off so they are as illegal on December 25th as July 5th or April 1st. And last I checked on the "ticket" variations a warning didn't mean anything other than the officer was nice and let a criminal go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashtanga 0 #29 February 16, 2006 Not only did you bold it but you underlined it too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #30 February 16, 2006 I got pulled over on my way to the DZ speeding with expired tags and I didn't have my insurance card with me(the car was insured just didn't have a card). I had moved to RI from NY and just hadn’t had the chance to get any thing done. The cop was a nice guy he gave me a few tickets but let me go head and do my skydives. I took a day off work and got every thing taken care of right away. In my experience as long as you are respectful and not an idiot the cops treat you well.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #31 February 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteexpired tags...only gave me a warning Well he was WORKING. Last I checked expired tags didn't have holidays off so they are as illegal on December 25th as July 5th or April 1st. And last I checked on the "ticket" variations a warning didn't mean anything other than the officer was nice and let a criminal go. wow... sorry. Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #32 February 17, 2006 QuoteNever, ever consent to a search. You may still be searched, but it is far less likely to stand up in court. Also, you are under no obligation to give any information to a cop except your name and address. It is none of his/her business where you are coming from, or where you are going. Learn and know your rights. You're absolutely correct. Technically. On a practical level... If you refuse to consent to a search, and they want to search you, they will do it anyway. If they find contraband, they will testify in court - yes, under oath! - that you consented. It will be your word against the officer's, and the judge will always, always, always believe the officer. And thus it will stand up in court. That's just the way it is. (The only exception to this is if the squad car both videotapes and audio-records the events - then you just might get away with refusing consent. Otherwise, forget it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloStenRacing 0 #33 February 17, 2006 My bad only expired tags was supposed to be bold and underlined. Didn't mean to come across as the whole thing being a shouting point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #34 February 17, 2006 QuoteYou do know .... he could have taken her to jial? Driving on a suspended license is not a moving violation. It's a misdemeanor. Yeah, well, whether that's so or not, the only reason she was driving on a suspended license is because a call to the fucking clerk of court informed her that her license was NOT FUCKING SUSPENDED. It was on the say-so of the clerk of court that she figured she was okay to just keep on as she was and eventually have her scheduled court date on that speeding ticket. What recourse does she have for getting fucked over by the incompetence or LIES of the clerk of court? Nothing. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #35 February 17, 2006 QuoteSo the cop is an asshole for your girlfriend forgetting to pay the first ticket. The cop could of also taken her to jail due to her driving on a suspended license. Yet, he's the asshole..MMM, weird how everything is always other peoples fault when THEY fuck up. And i am sure the cop that gave her a speeding ticker was ane asshole to! How about you pay attention? Her license got suspended because she hadn't sent in the ticket in time. She later called the clerk of court, which confirmed that they'd received her ticket (late) and that since she now had a court date, her license was NOT SUSPENDED. On that say-so, she continued driving. She explained that to the cop, who didn't give a shit. Cops let people go all the fucking time, and he couldn't do it in this case? With a fucking girl, driving a car with proper registration and insurance, etc. Like she's a fucking criminal? Like her story isn't credible? It's shit he can check. My real big gripe is with whatever fucktard told her it was all okay and that her license was not suspended. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #36 February 17, 2006 Quotei totally agree. pay your god damn tickets. if you speed, that is the game you play, and as they say, no pay, no play. That is such fuckin' bullshit. To argue that way is to admit you agree that the speed limits are exactly the maximum you should ever drive, and that exceeding them is always wrong, and that you should never bother trying to defend yourself in court -- which is exactly what court is for. I suppose that if you are ever arrested for a crime, you plan to just plead guilty and insist that the judge sentence you to the standard jail term, because hey, you played, now you pay. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #37 February 17, 2006 Quotei had an ounce of pot in the passenger side door ... i believe the amount is large enough to make it intent to sell ... in the trunk i keep a handgun and ammo... All in all, that's a really fuckin' stupid plan. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #38 February 17, 2006 Quotebut i didn't get off completely ... i got a ticket for no seat belt Okay, what's your excuse for not having the brains to wear a seat belt? It better be broken or cut off or something, 'cause nothing else is gonna suffice. It begins to sound like you were pretty much begging to get your ass pulled over, and searched...and arrested...and sent off to play with Bubba for a few years... - --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #39 February 17, 2006 QuoteWell Florida they mail you a warning of suspension two weeks before they suspend it. Then a few days before it's suspended, they send you a letter saying it will be suspended on so and so date, but then they still wait a few days to file the suspension so you have time to receive notice. In my case I changed my address and haven't updated it with the driver's license people, so I'm sure at my old address there's a notice that my license is suspended. If that's true, then I think my girlfriend should be able to easily get out of the suspended-license ticket that fuckwad gave her -- and possibly be due a refund for having to pay to get the license reinstated. Fuckin' bureaucratic bullshit. That's $70 she coulda spent on ME! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #40 February 17, 2006 I really think you need to chill out just a little. Your posts are aggressive and strewn with invective to a frankly worrying degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #41 February 17, 2006 QuoteI really think you need to chill out just a little. Your posts are aggressive and strewn with invective to a frankly worrying degree. You're worried? I'm not worried. What are you worried about? What's the worst that could happen? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #42 February 17, 2006 I had a similar experience yesterday, I think I am going to buy a lottery ticket! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #43 February 17, 2006 QuoteI had a similar experience yesterday, I think I am going to buy a lottery ticket! Why? You shot your wad on the getting-off-without-getting-arrested, right? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #44 February 17, 2006 Bought a car from a mate, taking it to garage to get MOT (certificate saying motor is road worthy), stopped, thinks "bollocks!", police man was unusually cool with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #45 February 17, 2006 QuoteBought a car from a mate, taking it to garage to get MOT (certificate saying motor is road worthy), stopped, thinks "bollocks!", police man was unusually cool with it. If your taking your vehicle to a pre-arranged MOT test centre then that is recognised lawful exemption. You still need insurance though. Alot of the time if everything adds up a little bit of common sense is all thats needed. Police officers have a power of discretion - which is what I refer to as the 'attitude test' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #46 February 17, 2006 Thats funny actually, your the second person to have said to me that I passed the attitude test! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 February 17, 2006 QuoteQuotebut i didn't get off completely ... i got a ticket for no seat belt Okay, what's your excuse for not having the brains to wear a seat belt? It better be broken or cut off or something, 'cause nothing else is gonna suffice. It begins to sound like you were pretty much begging to get your ass pulled over, and searched...and arrested...and sent off to play with Bubba for a few years... - - Playing devil's advocate, here.... What's the g/f's excuse for speeding?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #48 February 17, 2006 QuotePlaying devil's advocate, here.... What's the g/f's excuse for speeding? Excuse? I don't believe one needs an "excuse" for speeding. It is common knowledge that speed limits are what they are for revenue-creation purposes, and that they are significantly lower than the speeds at which modern vehicles can be safely driven. The road she was driving on has six lanes total, and the limit on it is thirty-five miles per hour. Her excuse? As far as I am concerned, "Thirty-five is radically too low to be reasonable," is completely valid. Even the cops who give out these tickets know, and sometimes acknowledge, that the limits are far too low. The system is ethically and morally bankrupt for handing out penalties for "infractions" of this nature. The indisputable fact that the vast, vast majority of drivers safely get where they're going is proof that the establishment KNOWS that the typical speed (OVER the posted legal limit) that most drivers operate at is perfectly safe except in a vanishingly small percentage of cases. Those whose speeds spike radically higher than the norm are the problem, not the person doing 46 in a 35, for example. (Actually, I don't know what my gf was ticketed for.) Ask yourself, the next time you're traveling 75 in a 60 along with HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of other drivers on a highway, what YOUR "excuse" for speeding is. Ask yourself how, if all the people around you are not horrible miscreants, they justify speeding right along with you. After all, are we to really believe that they all have guilty consciences for knowing that they're doing something heinously dangerous and risky to the public around them? Is every one of them some sort of flaming careening cannonball of death? Or is it more reasonable to conclude that maybe, perhaps, who knows, the speed they're driving, while above the legal limit, is fine? A better question would be, "What is the establishment's excuse for penalizing people who do so?" They obviously do not stop or deter people from speeding, and the number of offenders they penalize is far less than even one one-hundredth of a percent of the total drivers on the road. Anyone who points the finger at others as though they are "asking for it" for deciding to "speed" is a hypocrite, because anyone who claims they "never speed" is a goddamned liar. But believe it or not, I've witnessed people make that claim. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #49 February 17, 2006 So she WAS commiting the offence of excess speed then. Expect to get a ticket Play the game. You break the rules, expect the consequences. Dont moan or complain because it just makes it worse If everyone does something, doesnt mean its OK. Explaining to the officer why you feel your being picked on just proves that you have no respect for the rules and a simple talking to wont affect your behaviour. Unfortunately the best way to make people think twice is to hit them in their pocket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
udder 0 #50 February 17, 2006 Come to Australia. They have moveable camera's. Like half a dozen of the fuckers they move around all the time in a city of one million people. And the cops have radar guns and radar in their cars. I only have 2 points of twelve left to lose before my lic goes bye bye for three months. My beef is that those fuckers should be stopping aboriginals hanging their children in cemetaries before they slap me with a $50 fine for doing 5km over the limit. They raise tens of millions of dollars in revenue under the guise of road death prevention. Yet independant studies found the most beneficial action that could be taken to save lives is to create larger road verges on country roads without trees to wrap yourself around. Saving lives....Not really. Speeding fines for the most part are a fucking joke."In one way or the other, I'm a bad brother. Word to the motherf**ker." Eazy-E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
