vraic 0 #1 February 1, 2008 I'm getting a new canopy with Vectran lines and I have been told by the DZ rigger that if I soak the lines with Sillicon spray, ( as in bunch / loop them together in a plastic bag and spray it in to the bag, therby coating all the strings and then leaving it to soak for 10 min) it will extend the life of the line set, especially if performed every 100 jumps or thereabout. I'm just asking if anyone has heard of this method before, as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Would it make a difference? Thanks for your time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #2 February 1, 2008 *** I'm getting a new canopy with Vectran lines and I have been told by the DZ rigger that if I soak the lines with Sillicon spray, ( as in bunch / loop them together in a plastic bag and spray it in to the bag, therby coating all the strings and then leaving it to soak for 10 min) it will extend the life of the line set, especially if performed every 100 jumps or thereabout. Quote DO NOT Do That! For multiple reasons; 1.The can/will be wicked fast, depending on how much silicone is applied. 2. The silicone will attract dirt and wear the lines faster than normal. 3. Depending on the type/grade of the silicone, it may break down the polymer. Vectran is a Liquid Crystal Polymer (LCP). MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gene03 0 #3 February 1, 2008 Quote1.The can/will be wicked fast, depending on how much silicone is applied. ??????“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peek 21 #4 February 1, 2008 QuoteQuote1.The can/will be wicked fast, depending on how much silicone is applied. ?????? I think he just forgot the word "opening". The opening characteristics may well change, and to me that is a good enough reason not to lubricate lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites davelepka 4 #5 February 1, 2008 What about your canopy? A portion of your lines sit inside your canopy once it's packed. Do you want the silicone spray on your canopy? This is just a bad idea in general. Maybe take your clues on how to care for your new canopy from the manufacturer, and only the manufacturer. Also, I would seriously question any other advice you've gotten from this rigger. It doesn't take a genius to pass a riggers exam, and simply passing the test doesn't make you an expert. I'm not even sure how much coverge Vectran and HMA lines get on the riggers exam. If this person took their test any more than 4 or 5 years ago, I'd be willing to bet those line types didn't appear anywhere on the exam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #6 February 1, 2008 Aramid suspension lines were only added to the Canadian Rigger A exam last year, and CSPA updates its exams much more often than the FAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gene03 0 #7 February 1, 2008 Just for an historical perspective. These great, new ideas come around every 5-10 years, die a short death, or just make the rounds from one region to another, and then are resurrected by the next generation. Most old timers can confirmation that in the 70's and 80's it was putting beeswax on your lines to make them last longer.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #8 February 2, 2008 Quote Just for an historical perspective. These great, new ideas come around every 5-10 years... Re-inventing the wheel...gotta love it. Usually comes from those egos having no "historical perspective". My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites relyon 0 #9 February 2, 2008 Quote Re-inventing the wheel...gotta love it. Usually comes from those egos having no "historical perspective". While your point is well taken, particularly in the context given, consider cases said "historical perspective" was a detriment. The Wright brothers spent over a year trying to build on that perspective before figuring out that their predecessors were wrong. Even then, Lilientahl's death was the reason their first A/C had canards; the Flyer and others were highly unstable in pitch as a result. It took the Bleriot XI to change their minds. I digress ... That said, treating lines has never made any sense to me. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Gene03 0 #3 February 1, 2008 Quote1.The can/will be wicked fast, depending on how much silicone is applied. ??????“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #4 February 1, 2008 QuoteQuote1.The can/will be wicked fast, depending on how much silicone is applied. ?????? I think he just forgot the word "opening". The opening characteristics may well change, and to me that is a good enough reason not to lubricate lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #5 February 1, 2008 What about your canopy? A portion of your lines sit inside your canopy once it's packed. Do you want the silicone spray on your canopy? This is just a bad idea in general. Maybe take your clues on how to care for your new canopy from the manufacturer, and only the manufacturer. Also, I would seriously question any other advice you've gotten from this rigger. It doesn't take a genius to pass a riggers exam, and simply passing the test doesn't make you an expert. I'm not even sure how much coverge Vectran and HMA lines get on the riggers exam. If this person took their test any more than 4 or 5 years ago, I'd be willing to bet those line types didn't appear anywhere on the exam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 February 1, 2008 Aramid suspension lines were only added to the Canadian Rigger A exam last year, and CSPA updates its exams much more often than the FAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #7 February 1, 2008 Just for an historical perspective. These great, new ideas come around every 5-10 years, die a short death, or just make the rounds from one region to another, and then are resurrected by the next generation. Most old timers can confirmation that in the 70's and 80's it was putting beeswax on your lines to make them last longer.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 February 2, 2008 Quote Just for an historical perspective. These great, new ideas come around every 5-10 years... Re-inventing the wheel...gotta love it. Usually comes from those egos having no "historical perspective". My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
relyon 0 #9 February 2, 2008 Quote Re-inventing the wheel...gotta love it. Usually comes from those egos having no "historical perspective". While your point is well taken, particularly in the context given, consider cases said "historical perspective" was a detriment. The Wright brothers spent over a year trying to build on that perspective before figuring out that their predecessors were wrong. Even then, Lilientahl's death was the reason their first A/C had canards; the Flyer and others were highly unstable in pitch as a result. It took the Bleriot XI to change their minds. I digress ... That said, treating lines has never made any sense to me. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
