Girlfalldown 0 #1 February 18, 2006 We're leaving for the airport in about 30 minutes and we'll be in Vegas by 9! If anyone's there for the weekend give me a call. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #2 February 18, 2006 Geese! Everybody is getting married these days!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #3 February 18, 2006 QuoteGeese! Everybody is getting married these days! Geese can't get married, silly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #4 February 18, 2006 You deserve it girl Have the time of your life as I know you will! _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 February 19, 2006 Ok so you were Bound in Vegas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #6 February 21, 2006 We did NOT get married in Vegas! DORKS! All of ya. We thought about it but we were too busy gambling and ...uh....stuff. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #7 February 21, 2006 QuoteWe did NOT get married in Vegas! DORKS! All of ya. We thought about it but we were too busy gambling and ...uh....stuff. Did you seen any geese get married?"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #9 February 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteWe did NOT get married in Vegas! DORKS! All of ya. We thought about it but we were too busy gambling and ...uh....stuff. Did you seen any geese get married? -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #10 February 21, 2006 I just want to let everyone know in case this happens to you. When they say 98% payout, they lie. Also, NEVER gamble your last day in Vegas. (can anyone spare some ramen?) -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squink 0 #11 February 21, 2006 My trip was supposed to be Vegas, now it's going to be LA. Hopefully that'll be even better... How's the weather down there? ...the door was open SKYDIVERGIRLS.COM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #12 February 21, 2006 QuoteI just want to let everyone know in case this happens to you. When they say 98% payout, they lie. Also, NEVER gamble your last day in Vegas. (can anyone spare some ramen?) No they don't. You're just reading it wrong. It can also be read "2% payback". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #13 February 21, 2006 QuoteWhen they say 98% payout, they lie. That's why you shouldn't play the slots. Craps is where the money's at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #14 February 22, 2006 Slots suck, they have a huge house edge and usually a very bad standard deviation, meaning the results will vary quite a bit. Also you can't really tell from the outside of the machine what the payout will be. Craps is a good bet if you don't want to have to think too much plus it's a lot of fun. The best bet is actually the don't pass/don't come line, but then you piss everyone off by betting against most people. Typically you'll see 3x-4x-5x odds, so if you lay full odds on the don't pass you'll get a low house edge of 0.273%. The hard thing about that is that you have to risk much more than you win. Video poker is a pretty good bet if you get the right machine and play it optimally, which isn't always too easy. On an increasingly difficult to find 9/6 Jacks or Better machine, you'll get a low house edge of 0.46% My favorite is Blackjack, but this game takes a lifetime to master. Make sure you at least know the basic strategy for the table you're playing at, I usually look for a 6 deck, double after splitting allowed, double on any 2 cards, blackjack pays 2:1. If they have late surrender or resplitting of aces that's nice too. I think a good player can win if they count cards as well. You may be better off on a double or single deck game, but I don't like them because the shuffle happens too often, and I like to get a nice long run of good cards. http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/4deck.html Have fun, remember that your bets will get more wild and your strategy worse the more you drink . And congrats on the wedding GFD. Edit: I just got back from a wedding on the top of the tallest Vegas structure a few months ago. I really wanted to jump off of it, but I thought that might ruin my best man speech after the wedding if I got busted. The pastor even made a joke to the groom that now he didn't have to jump off of the tower.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #15 February 22, 2006 I played a ton of BlackJack and I kept coming out even. I spent like 5 hours at the table. Sat down with $100 bucks, had about 10 shots and 10 rum and cokes, tipped everybody and walked away with the same $100 I started with. DId the same thing the next day. Then I had a crap dealer and lost a bit. Moved to another casino and played Pai Gow for a while and lost a bit, then we played this really weird game where they flip a card and you choose if you think the next card is higher or lower. If you get three right you double your money. Then they do another 4 and if you get them right you quadruple your original bet. IF you lose the second part you still get the doubled money. You'd think it would be easy but I sucked at it. Bob on the other hand did quite well at EVERYTHING! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #16 February 22, 2006 QuoteI played a ton of BlackJack and I kept coming out even. I spent like 5 hours at the table. Sat down with $100 bucks, had about 10 shots and 10 rum and cokes, tipped everybody and walked away with the same $100 I started with. DId the same thing the next day. That's my idea of fun gambling. I try to hold myself to house rules unless it's something too stupid (i.e. I rarely double down, split, or stay on less than 17). This pisses the other players off, but I ain't there for them. I usually end up about even, and I get to drink for free and be a general pain in the ass the entire time. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #17 February 22, 2006 Good job, I always say "A push is a win". Especially if you're getting free drinks, tipping, and collecting players card points for comps. I don't know how many times I've stayed at a table all night just trying to get even. It's quite a relief if you can pull it off. Seems like my best wins have been when I was hammered and just threw money on the table recklessly and got lucky in a hurry. Of course it also works out the other way sometimes. Pai Gow Poker is fun and laid back. A lot of hands are a push. The odds seem almost even (actually a 2.73% house edge), besides the 5% collection and copies lose. As with most games, avoid the side bets unless you really know what you're doing.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #18 February 22, 2006 Sounds like you're describing the "Mimic the Dealer" strategy, which is pretty bad, around a 5.48% house edge depending on the table. Remember you have to go first, and if you bust before the dealer does you still lose. One of the worst things you could do is hit a 16 against a 6, since the dealer is likely to bust. Doubling and spliting is where the fun really begins and one of the player's better opportunities to make some money. You'd do much better (0.4066% house edge) if you actually played the optimal basic strategy I linked above. I try not to get upset about what other players are doing, since it really doesn't matter, it hurts you as often as it helps. Of course it's hard not to think about it when someone does something really stupid. I usually piss some people off when I do something right that everyone else thinks is wrong, like hit a soft 18 against a 10. But then they get really impressed when I pull a 21 against the dealers 20 every once in a while.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #19 February 22, 2006 QuoteSounds like you're describing the "Mimic the Dealer" strategy, which is pretty bad, around a 5.48% house edge depending on the table. Remember you have to go first, and if you bust before the dealer does you still lose. One of the worst things you could do is hit a 16 against a 6, since the dealer is likely to bust. Yes, but when I hit a blackjack, he pays 1.5x. When he hits a blackjack, I only pay 1x. That helps me doesn't it? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #20 February 22, 2006 QuoteCraps is a good bet if you don't want to have to think too much plus it's a lot of fun. Yeah, once you've got the odds figured out it's doesn't take much brain power. I usually do pass line with odds, then place the 6 and 8. If I'm doing well I'll drop a 2 way hard 6 or 8 if it's the point; take care of the dealers and they treat ya real good. I like craps cuz pretty much everybody on the table is betting the same way - ie on the come out roll everyone wants to see 7 or 11. It's way more social than the other games since you're not betting against each other. Dammit, now I really want to take a trip to Reno... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #21 February 23, 2006 There's a little more to it than that. That'll help you less than 5% of the time when you actually get a blackjack. Then there's the possibility of the dealer having blackjack as well. That leads to the whole insurance issue as well, which most people think depends on your hand, when it really is a totally seperate bet. The player acting before the dealer and losing on a bust is a much bigger factor in the house edge than a blackjack, and applies on almost every hand. They give the player bonuses like blackjack, splitting, doubling down, insurance if used correctly, and sometimes others to lower the house edge to something more reasonable to entice the players. There's a reason they can afford those big casinos . Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #22 February 23, 2006 Fyi, pass line with full 3-4-5x odds: 0.374% house edge. hard 6 or 8: house edge of 9.09% (regardless of the point). place bet on 6 or 8: house edge of 1.52%. The rare times I play craps I mix it up and play the pass and don't pass sometimes, usually taking full odds. It doesn't make me many friends at the table though . If you've got a lucky shooter the money will roll in pretty quick, but I usually lose it all before too long. I'm itching for some gambling too, I usually try to find a blackjack table where people are having fun, and not smoking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billo 0 #23 February 28, 2006 jeez, i can't believe i missed you out in vegas by a couple weeks...d'oh! no SDR poker for me this thursday, as i'll be down in vegas at the tables! so on that note, anyone going to be around vegas this weekend for some blackjack and free drinks??? bump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
