sharimcm 0 #1 March 1, 2006 So my beautiful 1999 Chrysler Sebring Convertible was diagnosed with a terminal illness... Oil leak, fluid leaks, engine issues, strut propblems, etc. which can be "fixed" for $2100. So, should I spend the 2100 now and hope all the work done will help my car for another 110K miles , or spend the 21K to buy a brand new car that will last me another 7 years or 110K miles? I can't decide, and since skydivers are the most opinionated people... I thought I'd create a poll. "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #2 March 1, 2006 No way in hell you will get another 110K miles out of a 99 Chrysler Sebring without other major repairs poping up. I am a HUGE Mopar Fan and Love Classic Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge cars but the reality is for a while they were building pure shit cars. Their newer cars seem to be built a little better now.. (My next Car will be a Dodge.. A Challenger soon as it comes out) But ANYTHING buily by Chrysler in the 90`s is not going to last. If you want a car that will last, get a Honda or Toyota. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 March 1, 2006 QuoteNo way in hell you will get another 110K miles out of a 99 Chrysler Sebring without other major repairs poping up. I am a HUGE Mopar Fan and Love Classic Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge cars but the reality is for a while they were building pure shit cars. Their newer cars seem to be built a little better now.. (My next Car will be a Dodge.. A Challenger soon as it comes out) But ANYTHING buily by Chrysler in the 90`s is not going to last. If you want a car that will last, get a Honda or Toyota. Step away from the Chrysler!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #4 March 1, 2006 Does the car run? Unless the mechanic who gave you the estimate is a close friend, maybe look for a second opinion. It's their job to find things wrong with your car, and figure out the most expensive way of fixing it. Maybe call around to friends or family and see if someone has a guy they trust, or a friend who works as mechanic, and get them to look at it. Make sure these are working professional mechanics, not weekend warriors. You'll pay maybe $75 for another diagnosis, but it will help you make the right choice. You may be able to repair the car for alot less money. Then, you can take your time locating a new car, and you'll get more for your existing car if it's drivable. But yeah, be in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #5 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote Step away from the Chrysler! But, I've had good memories in that Chrysler. Looking at a Mazda 3 or Ford Focus ZX5. Same car, but different brands... Mazda is 21K, Ford is 17K... Edited to add - the Chrysler still works... right now. I got it dianosed by a dealer, and a mechanic, both gave different answers on what was really wrong with it. I paid $69 to get it done by the dealer, and paid nothing to the mechanic shop I have taken the car to for the last 7 years... Oh, and if I really wanted to fix it up, I'd have to add on a few hundred for the back window that doesn't go down... "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #6 March 1, 2006 The only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range all run on diesel check out a Jetta Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #7 March 1, 2006 Some times you just have to let go - I had to recently - I really liked that car - But it wasn't really my choice -I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #8 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range are run on diesel check out a Jetta I've seen late 70's to mid 80's toyota pickups and cars with 250-300k miles on them, and a late 80's honda civic that saw 350k before giving up the ghost. I just passed 100k on my toyota tundra and am not really expecting to see those kinds of numbers given it was only the second model year for the drivetrain, but so far the only things I've had to replace have been tires, brake pads, fluids, filters, and a couple light bulbs. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #9 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range are run on diesel check out a Jetta My '89 Honda Civic 1.5 liter has 225k, still runs great. I even had it seriously overheat twice when the radiator started leaking 3 years ago, I thought that I had toasted the engine for sure - but it still doesn't even burn oil visibly, and only consumes a very small amount. That kind of durability on the Honda gasoline engines is not unusual. A travelling salesman was given a new accord a few years back, after a special recognition ceremony for having put 500K on his old Accord. He had replaced a few clutches and the manual tranny (my auto tranny is still OK), but still had the original engine. My car was made right down the highway from here, in the USA, parts are therefore relatively cheap because of that.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #10 March 1, 2006 I will agree with you i forgot about my friends old piece of shit CRX that thing is held together with superglue and gum but has over 250k on it Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #11 March 1, 2006 Quotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #12 March 1, 2006 get a carscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #13 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? Are Chryslers American cars? Being owned by Daimler Benz makes them no more an American nameplate than cars made by Honda of America (in Ohio), I think. Some would argue that I'm wrong...People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #14 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? I thought he was just saying that if longevity is the goal, Honda or Toyota is the best way to go. I'd agree. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #15 March 1, 2006 QuoteSo my beautiful 1999 Chrysler Sebring Convertible was diagnosed with a terminal illness... Oil leak, fluid leaks, engine issues, strut propblems, etc. which can be "fixed" for $2100. So, should I spend the 2100 now and hope all the work done will help my car for another 110K miles , or spend the 21K to buy a brand new car that will last me another 7 years or 110K miles? I can't decide, and since skydivers are the most opinionated people... I thought I'd create a poll. It's been a while since I've researched cars, so take this with a grain of salt. When I bought my 2000 Toyota Solara, I looked at a bunch of different brands. I checked out a bunch of consumer-oriented sites and focused on reliability numbers. The Solara was new enough that there really weren't any reliability figures available, so I looked at Toyota reliability in general and found it to be outstanding. I also looked at crash safety tests, mileage and whatever else I could find out there. For what I was looking for at the time, Toyota was a very clear choice. I really didn't want to buy a non-American car, but the choice was very clear. I've still got that car. It's got over 60,000 miles on it and I still love it! I haven't had anything done other than regular maintenance plus some brake work and tires. That's the only new car I have ever bought and it's been wonderful. Used cars simply require more maintenance and, as you are pointed out, that maintenance can get expensive. I'm thinking your best bet would be a new car. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Croc 0 #16 March 1, 2006 Get a Honda or Toyota, but check out Fords. I got 140,000 miles out of an Escort and the only thing I ever did to it besides regular maintenance was replace the ignition modual for $39. The new Focus is even better. I wouldn't put another penny in your Chrysler. The transmission is about to go out any minute."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Croc 0 #17 March 1, 2006 My boss has two Ford vans--both still driven every day. One has over 400,000 miles on it and the other has about 320,000. Neither has had either the engine or transmission rebuilt. Doors are falling off them, of course. My boss owns a plumbing company and the helpers drive these trucks."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #18 March 1, 2006 find something newer off the net...look at consumer reports....I found mine on ebay and luckily it was close by.... wound up with a wonderful vehicle for $6k, @70k miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hambone 0 #19 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range all run on diesel check out a Jetta I have to completely disagree (opinionated) My father drives a Lexus LS 400 Yes its a little pricey but he has 265000 miles on it and has had to do no more than change the oil. Its amazing. The place that he takes it to says that they have seen that car with almost 500000 miles on them before. THey are amazing, and i feel the best built cars on the road hands down.Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hambone 0 #20 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo my beautiful 1999 Chrysler Sebring Convertible was diagnosed with a terminal illness... Oil leak, fluid leaks, engine issues, strut propblems, etc. which can be "fixed" for $2100. So, should I spend the 2100 now and hope all the work done will help my car for another 110K miles , or spend the 21K to buy a brand new car that will last me another 7 years or 110K miles? I can't decide, and since skydivers are the most opinionated people... I thought I'd create a poll. It's been a while since I've researched cars, so take this with a grain of salt. When I bought my 2000 Toyota Solara, I looked at a bunch of different brands. I checked out a bunch of consumer-oriented sites and focused on reliability numbers. The Solara was new enough that there really weren't any reliability figures available, so I looked at Toyota reliability in general and found it to be outstanding. I also looked at crash safety tests, mileage and whatever else I could find out there. For what I was looking for at the time, Toyota was a very clear choice. I really didn't want to buy a non-American car, but the choice was very clear. I've still got that car. It's got over 60,000 miles on it and I still love it! I haven't had anything done other than regular maintenance plus some brake work and tires. That's the only new car I have ever bought and it's been wonderful. Used cars simply require more maintenance and, as you are pointed out, that maintenance can get expensive. I'm thinking your best bet would be a new car. Walt. Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ...Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #21 March 1, 2006 Quote Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ... I hadn't really considered the "lightly used" option, but that really does make a lot of sense if the model has a strong track record for reliability and it has a good history. you really do take a hit on the value of a new car. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hambone 0 #22 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ... I hadn't really considered the "lightly used" option, but that really does make a lot of sense if the model has a strong track record for reliability and it has a good history. you really do take a hit on the value of a new car. Walt Everyone may rest easy as walt and i now agree. But yueah thats how my dad has and does buy all of his cars. It seems to work pretty good for him.Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #23 March 2, 2006 The Camrys are made in California, right? The Solara is just the 2 door Camry, probably also made there. Honda imports very few cars into North America, and several years back was the biggest exporter of cars from the USA. Even the engines and trannies are made here now. A few low volume models are imported from Japan, and the CRV is imported from England and Japan. Toyota is similar with their car and truck production in North America, although Honda still does a lot more of the design/engineering development in America than Toyota. Compared to a lot of cars by American nameplates that often have a lot less domestic content and are much more likely to be made in Mexico, you shouldn't feel like you're buying a less than American car.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #24 March 2, 2006 QuoteThe Camrys are made in California, right? The Solara is just the 2 door Camry, probably also made there. Honda imports very few cars into North America, and several years back was the biggest exporter of cars from the USA. Even the engines and trannies are made here now. A few low volume models are imported from Japan, and the CRV is imported from England and Japan. Toyota is similar with their car and truck production in North America, although Honda still does a lot more of the design/engineering development in America than Toyota. Compared to a lot of cars by American nameplates that often have a lot less domestic content and are much more likely to be made in Mexico, you shouldn't feel like you're buying a less than American car. You're exactly right. My attitude toward "American cars" vs. "Japanese cars" was a carryover from the old days. It's just too difficult to make the distinction these days because in this country there probably is no such thing as a purely American car and the "Japanese" cars are made right here in the gool ol' USA, and it's been that way for years now. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sharimcm 0 #25 March 2, 2006 I thought I'd make this post more interesting... Here is a pic of the back of the car (that's all I have) parked next to a 1994 Ford van with 219K miles, and has no engine work what-so-ever, and to make it skydiving related, I'm posting a picture of my best bud under canopy (since I have none of me). Edited to add - what makes the car pic so special is it doesn't snow in Austin... "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #6 March 1, 2006 The only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range all run on diesel check out a Jetta Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 March 1, 2006 Some times you just have to let go - I had to recently - I really liked that car - But it wasn't really my choice -I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #8 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range are run on diesel check out a Jetta I've seen late 70's to mid 80's toyota pickups and cars with 250-300k miles on them, and a late 80's honda civic that saw 350k before giving up the ghost. I just passed 100k on my toyota tundra and am not really expecting to see those kinds of numbers given it was only the second model year for the drivetrain, but so far the only things I've had to replace have been tires, brake pads, fluids, filters, and a couple light bulbs. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #9 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range are run on diesel check out a Jetta My '89 Honda Civic 1.5 liter has 225k, still runs great. I even had it seriously overheat twice when the radiator started leaking 3 years ago, I thought that I had toasted the engine for sure - but it still doesn't even burn oil visibly, and only consumes a very small amount. That kind of durability on the Honda gasoline engines is not unusual. A travelling salesman was given a new accord a few years back, after a special recognition ceremony for having put 500K on his old Accord. He had replaced a few clutches and the manual tranny (my auto tranny is still OK), but still had the original engine. My car was made right down the highway from here, in the USA, parts are therefore relatively cheap because of that.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #10 March 1, 2006 I will agree with you i forgot about my friends old piece of shit CRX that thing is held together with superglue and gum but has over 250k on it Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 March 1, 2006 Quotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #12 March 1, 2006 get a carscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #13 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? Are Chryslers American cars? Being owned by Daimler Benz makes them no more an American nameplate than cars made by Honda of America (in Ohio), I think. Some would argue that I'm wrong...People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuotebe in the market for a Honda or Toyota. They will both top 110k mi, and last much longer than 7 years. Do you mean that there aren't any American cars that will run longer than 7 years or 110,000 miles? I thought he was just saying that if longevity is the goal, Honda or Toyota is the best way to go. I'd agree. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #15 March 1, 2006 QuoteSo my beautiful 1999 Chrysler Sebring Convertible was diagnosed with a terminal illness... Oil leak, fluid leaks, engine issues, strut propblems, etc. which can be "fixed" for $2100. So, should I spend the 2100 now and hope all the work done will help my car for another 110K miles , or spend the 21K to buy a brand new car that will last me another 7 years or 110K miles? I can't decide, and since skydivers are the most opinionated people... I thought I'd create a poll. It's been a while since I've researched cars, so take this with a grain of salt. When I bought my 2000 Toyota Solara, I looked at a bunch of different brands. I checked out a bunch of consumer-oriented sites and focused on reliability numbers. The Solara was new enough that there really weren't any reliability figures available, so I looked at Toyota reliability in general and found it to be outstanding. I also looked at crash safety tests, mileage and whatever else I could find out there. For what I was looking for at the time, Toyota was a very clear choice. I really didn't want to buy a non-American car, but the choice was very clear. I've still got that car. It's got over 60,000 miles on it and I still love it! I haven't had anything done other than regular maintenance plus some brake work and tires. That's the only new car I have ever bought and it's been wonderful. Used cars simply require more maintenance and, as you are pointed out, that maintenance can get expensive. I'm thinking your best bet would be a new car. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #16 March 1, 2006 Get a Honda or Toyota, but check out Fords. I got 140,000 miles out of an Escort and the only thing I ever did to it besides regular maintenance was replace the ignition modual for $39. The new Focus is even better. I wouldn't put another penny in your Chrysler. The transmission is about to go out any minute."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #17 March 1, 2006 My boss has two Ford vans--both still driven every day. One has over 400,000 miles on it and the other has about 320,000. Neither has had either the engine or transmission rebuilt. Doors are falling off them, of course. My boss owns a plumbing company and the helpers drive these trucks."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #18 March 1, 2006 find something newer off the net...look at consumer reports....I found mine on ebay and luckily it was close by.... wound up with a wonderful vehicle for $6k, @70k miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hambone 0 #19 March 1, 2006 QuoteThe only cars ive seen make it into the 250k 300k range all run on diesel check out a Jetta I have to completely disagree (opinionated) My father drives a Lexus LS 400 Yes its a little pricey but he has 265000 miles on it and has had to do no more than change the oil. Its amazing. The place that he takes it to says that they have seen that car with almost 500000 miles on them before. THey are amazing, and i feel the best built cars on the road hands down.Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hambone 0 #20 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo my beautiful 1999 Chrysler Sebring Convertible was diagnosed with a terminal illness... Oil leak, fluid leaks, engine issues, strut propblems, etc. which can be "fixed" for $2100. So, should I spend the 2100 now and hope all the work done will help my car for another 110K miles , or spend the 21K to buy a brand new car that will last me another 7 years or 110K miles? I can't decide, and since skydivers are the most opinionated people... I thought I'd create a poll. It's been a while since I've researched cars, so take this with a grain of salt. When I bought my 2000 Toyota Solara, I looked at a bunch of different brands. I checked out a bunch of consumer-oriented sites and focused on reliability numbers. The Solara was new enough that there really weren't any reliability figures available, so I looked at Toyota reliability in general and found it to be outstanding. I also looked at crash safety tests, mileage and whatever else I could find out there. For what I was looking for at the time, Toyota was a very clear choice. I really didn't want to buy a non-American car, but the choice was very clear. I've still got that car. It's got over 60,000 miles on it and I still love it! I haven't had anything done other than regular maintenance plus some brake work and tires. That's the only new car I have ever bought and it's been wonderful. Used cars simply require more maintenance and, as you are pointed out, that maintenance can get expensive. I'm thinking your best bet would be a new car. Walt. Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ...Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #21 March 1, 2006 Quote Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ... I hadn't really considered the "lightly used" option, but that really does make a lot of sense if the model has a strong track record for reliability and it has a good history. you really do take a hit on the value of a new car. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hambone 0 #22 March 1, 2006 QuoteQuote Here Walt and i Disagree, when you buy a new car you take a large hit by driving off the lot, if you can find a used car with a clear title and a good carfax, as well as good info then you won't have to worry about the hit and will be able to get more car for your money. The Lexus that i talked about in a previous post was bought used, granted i am talking lightly used, so less than 30k miles is the cut off for that. At 30k miles most cars are just getting cooking. Any who let us know what you end up doing/getting. And of course PICTURES ... I hadn't really considered the "lightly used" option, but that really does make a lot of sense if the model has a strong track record for reliability and it has a good history. you really do take a hit on the value of a new car. Walt Everyone may rest easy as walt and i now agree. But yueah thats how my dad has and does buy all of his cars. It seems to work pretty good for him.Yeah...You need to grow up. -Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #23 March 2, 2006 The Camrys are made in California, right? The Solara is just the 2 door Camry, probably also made there. Honda imports very few cars into North America, and several years back was the biggest exporter of cars from the USA. Even the engines and trannies are made here now. A few low volume models are imported from Japan, and the CRV is imported from England and Japan. Toyota is similar with their car and truck production in North America, although Honda still does a lot more of the design/engineering development in America than Toyota. Compared to a lot of cars by American nameplates that often have a lot less domestic content and are much more likely to be made in Mexico, you shouldn't feel like you're buying a less than American car.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #24 March 2, 2006 QuoteThe Camrys are made in California, right? The Solara is just the 2 door Camry, probably also made there. Honda imports very few cars into North America, and several years back was the biggest exporter of cars from the USA. Even the engines and trannies are made here now. A few low volume models are imported from Japan, and the CRV is imported from England and Japan. Toyota is similar with their car and truck production in North America, although Honda still does a lot more of the design/engineering development in America than Toyota. Compared to a lot of cars by American nameplates that often have a lot less domestic content and are much more likely to be made in Mexico, you shouldn't feel like you're buying a less than American car. You're exactly right. My attitude toward "American cars" vs. "Japanese cars" was a carryover from the old days. It's just too difficult to make the distinction these days because in this country there probably is no such thing as a purely American car and the "Japanese" cars are made right here in the gool ol' USA, and it's been that way for years now. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharimcm 0 #25 March 2, 2006 I thought I'd make this post more interesting... Here is a pic of the back of the car (that's all I have) parked next to a 1994 Ford van with 219K miles, and has no engine work what-so-ever, and to make it skydiving related, I'm posting a picture of my best bud under canopy (since I have none of me). Edited to add - what makes the car pic so special is it doesn't snow in Austin... "I had a dude tip his black cowboy hat to me after I provided him with a condom outside my hotel room at 3-something in the morning." -myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
