lilchief 1 #1 January 12, 2008 ....a case! No to the serious part, any thoughts on how this happened? I'm solely to blame since this is a packing error on my behalf. I always stow my brakes right after landing to avoid twists on my control lines. I might have entagled the C-line while doing this, but I just can't belive that I could f**k it up like this! edit: Skyhook rocks! =)"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,481 #2 January 12, 2008 I couldn't see what was going on in the first picture so I brightened it up a bit for others...Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #3 January 12, 2008 Wow, if that is ok on your screen you seriously need to calibrate it Anyway it looks like a tension knot to me, and it definately looks like a problem to me ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2shay 0 #4 January 12, 2008 I stow mine as soon as I hit the ground for the same reason that you do. I do not let go of my toggles though I land, turn my camera off and then stow without letting them go so there is no chance of that happening.don't try your bullshit with me!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 January 13, 2008 Not an issue with stowing your brakes, but rather a packing issue more likely than not. Clear your brake lines before pulling the tail up.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 January 13, 2008 Quote Not an issue with stowing your brakes, but rather a packing issue more likely than not. Clear your brake lines before pulling the tail up. Not to mention you should untwist your brake lines. Besides obvious line life issues and performance issues with twisted brake lines, brake line's cascades tend to flatten out when they're twisted. That big flat cascade will grab the cascade for the nearest C/D lineset.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #7 January 14, 2008 Did you try clearing it by releasing and pumping the crap out of the brakes or pulling on any individual lines? (not saying you should have or anything, just wondering how the canopy reacted if you did) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #8 January 14, 2008 No, I couldn't see what was causing the spin when it happened. The canopy inflated normally but just before if was fully pressurized, it started to spin violently to the left. I pulled down my right rear riser without effect, pulled it one more time with both hands without effect and saw that I was already at 2000f and went silver. The funny thing was that I took the time to take off my swoopcords on my camerasuit before pulling the cutaway handle. "Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 January 14, 2008 Quote ...I always stow my brakes right after landing to avoid twists on my control lines. I might have entagled the C-line while doing this, but I just can't belive that I could f**k it up like this! OK...you got me worried. This is tension knots. It could have been caused by a severley twisted brake line as described by AggieDave. What worries me is that with your jump numbers you may seem to think this could have happened by improperly stowing your toggles. (Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement) There is no way a brake line could get entangled through suspension lines without removing the toggle and taking the brake line out of the guide ring. Should you inadvertently put your toggles through the suspension lines as you stow them, it will be completely obvious...the brake line passes through the lines AFTER passing through the guide ring. Even FJC students can recognize that. Even it you missed it there, a walk-up will knock you on the head and say, "Oooops, you screwed up!" For the record. I am firmly against setting brakes in the field. Simply stow the toggle in the field and set the brakes in the packing area as part of the packing process. 1. Not paying attention to others landing around you. 2. Distractions that will make you do it incorrectly 3. Distractions that will make you forget one or the other. 4. Complacency causing you to NOT check them during packing. 5. Coming undone during the walk-back. 6. Packers not double-checking them for correctness.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilchief 1 #10 January 14, 2008 Quote OK...you got me worried. Sorry.. I was mumbling out something that could have been the cause, cause I'm not sure how this happened. It just seems to odd to me... Quote This is tension knots. It could have been caused by a severley twisted brake line as described by AggieDave. /reply] Actually, I went over my brakelines before I packed my rig some days before this weekend and checked for any twists. And I found some and cleared them."Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return." - Da Vinci www.lilchief.no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hackish 8 #11 January 14, 2008 I had something like this happen when the brakes fired on opening. The knot entangled a lot more lines than yours but it was also a student canopy. Check the canopy for any burns which might indicate something else like a partial lineover may have happened during opening. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
hackish 8 #11 January 14, 2008 I had something like this happen when the brakes fired on opening. The knot entangled a lot more lines than yours but it was also a student canopy. Check the canopy for any burns which might indicate something else like a partial lineover may have happened during opening. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
