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Andy_Copland

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Responsible for what?

... responsible for the emotional distress you'll probably cause her the next day when she realizes that you consider her so unworthy of respect that she's only fuckable when drunk and worth nothing else otherwise?

... responsible for the behavior of your jackass friends when they reinforce your own belief about the "bird"?

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"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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OK say your absolutely shit faced...i mean blitzed....lop sop doy...out your tree.... and you end up cheating or shagging a fat bird can you be held responsible?



Yes, of course. You voluntarily got yourself intoxicated and then proceeded to play big boy games with the "fat bird" (AKA Person), and therefore are held responsible as a big boy.

Richards
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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OK Sunday isnt a good day for a light hearted poll.

So why jump on my back for the poll? Have i expressed my opinon on the matter? I think some people need to take a step back and ask why they are so offended :|

And RL whats wrong with telling someone to chill? Im not being disrespectful just asking not to take me so seriously
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Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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So why jump on my back for the poll? Have i expressed my opinon on the matter?



Posting the poll made your opinion pretty clear, I'm afraid. Regardless of whether your answer is "responsible" or "not responsible" it's still clear that you put "shagging a fat bird" on the same regrettability scale as cheating.

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I think some people need to take a step back and ask why they are so offended



Normally I don't bother responding to shit like this. But I'm in a mood.

Want to know why I'm offended? Because I'm a former "fat bird" who allowed myself to be marginalized for years by men with that attitude (before I realized that it's much preferable to be ignored by men than used by them). I think your attitude and the attitude of guys who think like that sucks and that your poll sucks. Hell, even after massive weight loss there's lots of guys out there who would still consider me unworthy of anything but a drunken fuck, but y'know what? I've got enough balls not to bother with them anymore. And the funny thing is, nothing makes a guy like that feel worse than to be rejected by a woman he wouldn't admit to sleeping with the next day.

But don't worry, I'm sure that eventually your poll will turn into yet another Bonfire classic.

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... I realized that it's much preferable to be ignored by men than used by them..... I've got enough balls not to bother with them anymore.



Kudos to you. There's nothing more inspiring than seeing someone who always lets people step on them finally develop self esteem/confidence and start saying "Do not fuck with me".

Cheers,

Richards:)
My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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OK Sunday isnt a good day for a light hearted poll.

So why jump on my back for the poll? Have i expressed my opinon on the matter? I think some people need to take a step back and ask why they are so offended :|

And RL whats wrong with telling someone to chill? Im not being disrespectful just asking not to take me so seriously



In a way, I'm kind of enjoying watching the carnage because they are jumping on you instead of me.

I have no problem with the poll being in poor taste--there are a lot of posts here, including many from me, that are in very poor taste. The problem is that your poll is a very mean-spirited kind of humor. I'm not saying that you are a mean-spirited person, but the post is *definitely* mean-spirited toward women.

I don't know how it is the the UK, but here in the US, the overwhelming majority of women are *extremely* sensitive about their weight and think they are overweight. It doesn't matter whether they really are or not--they tend to think they are. Unfortunately, they think that being overweight makes them truly ugly and there is no shortage of people who will confirm that for them and that's what your poll does.

The reason you are getting nasty responses to the polls is that in the US, a great many women have spent years trying to *not* think of themselves as ugly and fat and those who have managed to get past that are well aware of the damage that can be done by "fat chick" jokes and the like.

Especially in regard to women, this is a youth and beauty-oriented culture and both are defined in rather narrow terms, leaving most feeling not very good about themselves. You would be really surprised at how many truly beautiful women don't think of themselves as being attractive at all. It's astounding, and in a really bad way.

There really isn't any equivalent thing for men that I can think of. If a woman has sex with you and then later tells you that she wanted to have sex with the ugliest guy she could find, you'll probably laugh and not give a fuck because you got laid! It's just not like that with women. They are brought up with an enormous pressure to *be* beautiful and are left feeling severely beaten down when they don't *feel* beautiful. Trust me on this--I'm not exaggerating at all.

You're in a no-win situation on this one, my friend, and I think your best course of action is to simply apologize, learn from the experience, and PM a moderator, asking them to delete this thread.

I might add that it is such a sensitive issue that I can almost guarantee you that I will be attacked for making this post, and IMO there is *nothing* demeaning toward women or overweight people in it. The topic is just that sensitive.

Walt

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IMO there is *nothing* demeaning toward women or overweight people in it. The topic is just that sensitive.

Walt



Your analysis is wrong. The rest of us learned in kindergarten that this sort of thing--poking fun at others--is cruel and hurtful. It has nothing to do with "years trying to not think of [ourselves] as ugly and fat."

Pseudo-sensitivity is just that. And this is a classic example.

In short, the poll is what it is. Mean. No detailed (albeit erroneous) analysis necessary.

rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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You would be really surprised at how many truly beautiful women don't think of themselves as being attractive at all. It's astounding, and in a really bad way.



You talking about me again, Walt? ;)
What do you call a beautiful, sunny day that comes after two cloudy, rainy
ones? -- Monday.

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Dude, you obviously don't appreciate big girls. I'm married to one who is absolutely great. And you've pissed off a few more here, who I'm also sure are absolutely great.

Don't go skipping through a minefield and then complain when you blow yourself up.

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You should absolutely not be held responsible for things that occured when you were drinking.

Tell your mom I said hi. :ph34r:



Maybe he was drinking when he created this thread. :|
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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Well if I was shit faced drunk and slept with your best friend and your brother and his best friend and then did not remember and did not feel the need to apologise to you, and by the way I got pregnant and I was not sure about who the dad was. But because you and I were dating (Seriously) at the time I think you should take responsability for the kid.
And I will maybe say sorry for saying that ACTUALLY your best friend was a better shag than you, BUT he was sort of drunk too and I am not sure where that would go if we had to give it a bash, so I might just stick with you 'cause you are a sure thing and you have a bit of cash and can spoil me for my birthday, which is coming up btw, so don't forget I want a ring.
(Yip, I can't have your baby without us being married)
Btw, why have you not called me today, I am waiting and waiting and waiting and you said you would.

So I am not sure about this thread, responsibility??
You tell me.

I think true friendship is under-rated

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