RkyMtnHigh 0 #1 March 28, 2006 Is anyone familiar with EMF (electromagnetic field) and BioPro QLink and it's claims: "Dr. Neil Cherry, a biophysicist and an elected official in New Zealand, said that studies indicate that non-ionizing radiation causes everything from cancer in lab rats to neurological changes in humans. Dr. Cherry stated that human beings are very good conductors of microwave transmitted signals. Living organisms are themselves electromagnetic instruments of great sensitivity that can support a variety of electrical vibrations; these can be interfered with by external radiation - both at microwave and very much lower (ELF) frequencies - in a number of ways, from which adverse health effects can follow. In fact, numerous studies from leading scientists have linked long-term EMF exposure to increased risks for heart disease, cancer, leukemia, brain tumor, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, depression and suicide, fatigue, asthma, and others. " Is this real? http://www.emf-health.com/biopro-qlink.htm _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #2 March 28, 2006 A fool and their money are soon parted.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #3 March 28, 2006 So, I take it that you're saying that it's a hoax? Someone at my dz swears by this product and has noticed amazing results in his stess level and when he takes the pendant off he gets headaches until he's wearing it again. I'm just curious how a piece of copper can be a field of protection for the entire body. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 March 28, 2006 QuoteIs anyone familiar with EMF (electromagnetic field) and BioPro QLink and it's claims: "Dr. Neil Cherry, a biophysicist and an elected official in New Zealand, said that studies indicate that non-ionizing radiation causes everything from cancer in lab rats to neurological changes in humans. Dr. Cherry stated that human beings are very good conductors of microwave transmitted signals. Living organisms are themselves electromagnetic instruments of great sensitivity that can support a variety of electrical vibrations; these can be interfered with by external radiation - both at microwave and very much lower (ELF) frequencies - in a number of ways, from which adverse health effects can follow. In fact, numerous studies from leading scientists have linked long-term EMF and "personal Buzzer" exposure to increased risks for heart disease, cancer, leukemia, brain tumor, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, depression and suicide, fatigue, asthma, and others. " Is this real? http://www.emf-health.com/biopro-qlink.htmI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #5 March 28, 2006 >Is this real? We've been living in a pretty massive magnetic field for about 5 billion years now. AC power has been around for about 100 years now; not too many people dying from sleeping next to an alarm clock. SAR testing has been around for quite a while too, and they have yet to find any specific maladies attributable to microwave radiation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 March 28, 2006 Quote>Is this real? We've been living in a pretty massive magnetic field for about 5 billion years now. AC power has been around for about 100 years now; not too many people dying from sleeping next to an alarm clock. SAR testing has been around for quite a while too, and they have yet to find any specific maladies attributable to microwave radiation. Would they do MRIs if they were bad for you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #7 March 28, 2006 QuoteSo, I take it that you're saying that it's a hoax? Someone at my dz swears by this product and has noticed amazing results in his stess level and when he takes the pendant off he gets headaches until he's wearing it again. I'm just curious how a piece of copper can be a field of protection for the entire body. Just another version of a placebo. Power of suggestion is very powerful. If it works for him, great. But if you gave him a piece of heavy copper electrical wire bent into the shape of a bracelet and told him it had the same "powers" it would cost him a lot less.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #8 March 28, 2006 That page is making two claims: That Electromagnetic Fields are intrinsically harmful to humans. That the BioPro QLink can do something about it. High-strength Electromagnetic Fields have been a cause of concern to some people for some years (power lines, etc.). I'm not current on the research being done in the field, so I'll refrain from comment, apart from to say that if you don't live directly under a high-tension powerline I doubt you've got much to worry about. The claim that the QLink can perform "EMF harmonization" is complete bollocks. What the hell is EMF harmonization supposed to be? Harmonizing with what? They even claim it'll improve my blood quality and my golf game?! For fucks sake. Just how gullible can you be... Or, as monkeycndo said, a fool and their money are soon parted. Note to hookit: note the "z"s. Just for you, baby . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 March 28, 2006 Quote Just another version of a placebo. Power of suggestion is very powerful. If it works for him, great. But if you gave him a piece of heavy copper electrical wire bent into the shape of a bracelet and told him it had the same "powers" it would cost him a lot less. So - my tinfoil hat - it's working?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #10 March 29, 2006 got me thinking. since we have a icon, shouldn't there be a bullshit icon too? Maybe a little brown turd with horns on it or something. [bullshit] It would come in real handy in That Other Forum. hey how come i got an unintended linky thing on that word? What if I write "iconoclast?" Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #11 March 29, 2006 My bosses both (a husband and wife) have a Q-Link pendant and wear it every single day. I'm not sure if they wear it when they sleep, but I wouldn't doubt it. They swear by it and just spent about $800 on pendants to give to their family members. I think if it's something you believe in, then it will work. Just as if you do not believe in it, it won't work. Just my 2 cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RkyMtnHigh 0 #12 March 29, 2006 So far, I'm getting the idea you all think it's hocus pocus. However as Jumpergirl says that her boss believes in it...perhaps its a psychological thing..if you believe it works, it will. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #13 March 29, 2006 QuoteSo far, I'm getting the idea you all think it's hocus pocus. However as Jumpergirl says that her boss believes in it...perhaps its a psychological thing..if you believe it works, it will. You've just defined the placebo effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #14 March 29, 2006 $800 for pendants? holy crap! if it weren't for my conscience I could make a bunch of $$$ selling stuff like this. Hmmmm..... Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RkyMtnHigh 0 #15 March 29, 2006 Last I saw was that the pendant was $295US...I think $800 is for a household..not sure though. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites squirrel 0 #16 March 29, 2006 well, my dad was a power lineman for 35 years. worked on the big stuff, 75,000 volts...used to tell me how the EMF would stand his hair up. he is now 81, father of 8, and still healthy and sharp as a 25 year old. hmmm, think i will go cozy up to my mirocwave. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #17 March 29, 2006 Quote$800 for pendants? holy crap! I guess I didn't clarify... I said "$800 on pendants to give to their family members." They got a "deal" on 10 pendants to give as gifts to their families. On a side note, if anyone is looking for a Q-Link, I have the information for the guy where my boss got hers. Super nice guy and very friendly. His prices were the most competitive. PM me if you'd like his website/name/number, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #18 March 29, 2006 I recommend reading QuackWatch for information about such scams, generally. Here's the search for EMF: http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=EMF which mentions a similar bracelet. And here's the article on power lines: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #19 March 29, 2006 And here's a little information about how BioPro works: http://www.addreps.net/biopro.htmlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #20 March 29, 2006 I guess even in the 21st century the quack scams continue. In the 1920's there was a "therapeutic" blanket being sold that had a layer of Uranium sewn into it between two layers of material. Supposedly the radiation from the Uranium would cure arthritis, improve the immune system, etc etc bla bla bla. same shit as this thing. But at least the BioPro thing won't increase your cancer risk by irradiating your body with gamma radiation! The quacks can continue to market their BS by stating that the medical industry doesn't want you to know about the miracle of their snake oil, because then they (medical industry) would lose $ when the snake oil cured all your diseases. Easy line to sell, & I don't see it going away anytime soon. And it effectively negates any info when independent scientists disprove their claims in controlled experiments. Obviously the scientists doing the study were paid to discredit the snake oil. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites squirrel 0 #21 March 29, 2006 Quoteirradiating your body with gamma radiation! "your starting to make me ....angry...you wont like me...when i am angry" (strange green glow from skin, erie music,...bulging muscles....grrrrr) ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jeiber 0 #22 March 29, 2006 Quoteboth at microwave and very much lower (ELF) frequencies - in a number of ways, from which adverse health effects can follow. I wouldn't worry about it. The earth has a natural electromagnetic field... somehow the human race continues to evolve despite it's presense. People live their entire lives underneath humming power lines, with no ill effect. Microwave towers are everywhere... not a big deal. Keep in mind, we're talking moderation here. If you stick your head in a microwave oven, it'll probably cause you some immediate and long term health problems. It does for cats, anyway. Anyway, you're time could probably be better spend worrying about invading space aliens and spontaneous human combustion. Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
RkyMtnHigh 0 #12 March 29, 2006 So far, I'm getting the idea you all think it's hocus pocus. However as Jumpergirl says that her boss believes in it...perhaps its a psychological thing..if you believe it works, it will. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 March 29, 2006 QuoteSo far, I'm getting the idea you all think it's hocus pocus. However as Jumpergirl says that her boss believes in it...perhaps its a psychological thing..if you believe it works, it will. You've just defined the placebo effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 March 29, 2006 $800 for pendants? holy crap! if it weren't for my conscience I could make a bunch of $$$ selling stuff like this. Hmmmm..... Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #15 March 29, 2006 Last I saw was that the pendant was $295US...I think $800 is for a household..not sure though. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #16 March 29, 2006 well, my dad was a power lineman for 35 years. worked on the big stuff, 75,000 volts...used to tell me how the EMF would stand his hair up. he is now 81, father of 8, and still healthy and sharp as a 25 year old. hmmm, think i will go cozy up to my mirocwave. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #17 March 29, 2006 Quote$800 for pendants? holy crap! I guess I didn't clarify... I said "$800 on pendants to give to their family members." They got a "deal" on 10 pendants to give as gifts to their families. On a side note, if anyone is looking for a Q-Link, I have the information for the guy where my boss got hers. Super nice guy and very friendly. His prices were the most competitive. PM me if you'd like his website/name/number, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #18 March 29, 2006 I recommend reading QuackWatch for information about such scams, generally. Here's the search for EMF: http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=EMF which mentions a similar bracelet. And here's the article on power lines: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/emf.html rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #19 March 29, 2006 And here's a little information about how BioPro works: http://www.addreps.net/biopro.htmlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #20 March 29, 2006 I guess even in the 21st century the quack scams continue. In the 1920's there was a "therapeutic" blanket being sold that had a layer of Uranium sewn into it between two layers of material. Supposedly the radiation from the Uranium would cure arthritis, improve the immune system, etc etc bla bla bla. same shit as this thing. But at least the BioPro thing won't increase your cancer risk by irradiating your body with gamma radiation! The quacks can continue to market their BS by stating that the medical industry doesn't want you to know about the miracle of their snake oil, because then they (medical industry) would lose $ when the snake oil cured all your diseases. Easy line to sell, & I don't see it going away anytime soon. And it effectively negates any info when independent scientists disprove their claims in controlled experiments. Obviously the scientists doing the study were paid to discredit the snake oil. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #21 March 29, 2006 Quoteirradiating your body with gamma radiation! "your starting to make me ....angry...you wont like me...when i am angry" (strange green glow from skin, erie music,...bulging muscles....grrrrr) ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #22 March 29, 2006 Quoteboth at microwave and very much lower (ELF) frequencies - in a number of ways, from which adverse health effects can follow. I wouldn't worry about it. The earth has a natural electromagnetic field... somehow the human race continues to evolve despite it's presense. People live their entire lives underneath humming power lines, with no ill effect. Microwave towers are everywhere... not a big deal. Keep in mind, we're talking moderation here. If you stick your head in a microwave oven, it'll probably cause you some immediate and long term health problems. It does for cats, anyway. Anyway, you're time could probably be better spend worrying about invading space aliens and spontaneous human combustion. Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites