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Dumpster 0
A bunch of our execs have had IBM Thinkpads for years (IBM has a different name now, ) and they take a beating without a hitch. Some complain they are a little on the heavy side though.
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LisaM 0
I disagree on the Dell issue... i have a Latitude here at work... no troubles. I have an Inspiron at home... love it love it love it!!! Yes, my inspiron isn't all that light (about 8 lbs) but it is a tradeoff.. it's lighter than my previous desktop but outperforms it! I could've gotten a dinky easy-to-carry-around laptop but then I could not do all that i do.
~ Lisa
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I've had a Dell Latitude and Sony Vaio .. both for work. Both were fine for work.
If I were to buy my own laptop for personal use, it would be a powerbook.
If I were to buy my own laptop for personal use, it would be a powerbook.
squirrel 0
go mac....mine never, ever, crashes.
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skybytch 273
QuoteI disagree on the Dell issue
Me too. I had no problems at all with the Inspiron lappie I used to have. IIRC it crashed like once in the year I had it, and it put up with a lot of abuse. It was kinda heavy though.
I can't blame Dell for the fact that it didn't handle being immersed in floodwaters very well.
LisaM 0
And they are lo user friendly een my mother... no wait that is not right. She calls me daily askiny for help.... 
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Get the apple.
I have an apple, a toshiba and my mom and brother have a dell. The only one that has had no problems whatsoever has been the apple. On the toshiba, the board has failed twice, the fan has failed twice, the power supply has failed once and the video card failed once. I've owned it for a year and a half. On the dells, they seem to be in the shop as often as the toshiba.
I've had the ibook for about a year. I've never had a single problem with it, ever. It's incredibly well constructed and their tech support has been wonderful, even when I'm calling them just because I'm still a bit mac-stupid and can't figure out how to do some of the higher functions.
With the mac, you'll have the bonus of being able to use both windows and MacOSx, and it'll be running on apple hardware. Best of both worlds.
I have an apple, a toshiba and my mom and brother have a dell. The only one that has had no problems whatsoever has been the apple. On the toshiba, the board has failed twice, the fan has failed twice, the power supply has failed once and the video card failed once. I've owned it for a year and a half. On the dells, they seem to be in the shop as often as the toshiba.
I've had the ibook for about a year. I've never had a single problem with it, ever. It's incredibly well constructed and their tech support has been wonderful, even when I'm calling them just because I'm still a bit mac-stupid and can't figure out how to do some of the higher functions.
With the mac, you'll have the bonus of being able to use both windows and MacOSx, and it'll be running on apple hardware. Best of both worlds.
TEB6363 0
We just bought a Dell Inspiron.. the 15-inch screen is plenty for what we do.. The price was very good and from what I saved, I bought the 3-year replacement policy.. Hint - Don't pay the full price up front, as you get close to 30 days on your purchase, Dell will call and offer a great deal on the service/replacement package..
Once the plane takes off, you're gonna have to land - Might as well jump out!!

Once the plane takes off, you're gonna have to land - Might as well jump out!!
Company I work for is fairly small, total of about a dozen laptops, maybe two non-Dells's left.
Only problem I have with them is the end users who, management doesn't feel can be locked down, loading up a few spyware programs.
Seriously, we buy all refurbished Dell's, compare the price. Sometimes a refurbished Dell laptop comes in DOA, but not much of a problem, since they have a next business day warranty. Nice tech support, drivers available on there web site.
Not sure about Sony's, some in the past have had web sites dedicated to particular models and there problems. Had a Toshiba die a painful, protracted death.
Wouldn't buy a HP or Compaq non-business class, since the support for those is non-existent.
One suggestion I have is no matter what brand, when you have a new laptop (well, any PC not saving data to a network share), wipe the hard drive, partition into two drives, and reinstall OS. Then point My Documents and Outlook PST file to the second partition. If, err rather when you have to reload the OS, you don't have to worry about your data, except maybe your favorites from your browser.
Some manufactuers have there head so far up there but, that you can't choose to partition, so beware. Dell can be partitioned, HP can't (last time I had to deal with one.) Sony is a maybe, but they might choose the partition size for you.
YMMV,
Johnsisland
AKA, Jeff
Edited to clarify Dell/HP partitionablitly.
Only problem I have with them is the end users who, management doesn't feel can be locked down, loading up a few spyware programs.
Seriously, we buy all refurbished Dell's, compare the price. Sometimes a refurbished Dell laptop comes in DOA, but not much of a problem, since they have a next business day warranty. Nice tech support, drivers available on there web site.
Not sure about Sony's, some in the past have had web sites dedicated to particular models and there problems. Had a Toshiba die a painful, protracted death.
Wouldn't buy a HP or Compaq non-business class, since the support for those is non-existent.
One suggestion I have is no matter what brand, when you have a new laptop (well, any PC not saving data to a network share), wipe the hard drive, partition into two drives, and reinstall OS. Then point My Documents and Outlook PST file to the second partition. If, err rather when you have to reload the OS, you don't have to worry about your data, except maybe your favorites from your browser.
Some manufactuers have there head so far up there but, that you can't choose to partition, so beware. Dell can be partitioned, HP can't (last time I had to deal with one.) Sony is a maybe, but they might choose the partition size for you.
YMMV,
Johnsisland
AKA, Jeff
Edited to clarify Dell/HP partitionablitly.
Arch? I can arch just fine with my back to the ground.
It depends on what you are looking to do whit it. an apple or mac are great if you are going to be doing alot of video with it. IBM types are good if you are looking for compatibility with other mainsteam soft wear.. ie microsoft office.
The really nice thing about apple and mac is that you dont have to worry about viruses. they are immune to them.
Window will just keep taking your money for virus protection....
I'm stuck with a microsoft computer because of the soft ware requirements that we have where i work.![[:/] [:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png)
The world is full of willing people, some willing to work, the rest willing to let them.
The really nice thing about apple and mac is that you dont have to worry about viruses. they are immune to them.
Window will just keep taking your money for virus protection....

I'm stuck with a microsoft computer because of the soft ware requirements that we have where i work.
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Peej 0
I have an HP model no: nx8220 that is around 10 months old now. Touch wood i can honestly say that i've never had a problem with it that i haven't caused. (I left my office window open once and it got rained on - resultng in rather expensive repairs
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Bt it hardly ever crashes and thus far has been really reliable. Go HP!
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Bt it hardly ever crashes and thus far has been really reliable. Go HP!
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I love my Macs...but they are not immune to virus infection...
http://www.macvirus.org/
The malicious code assholes tend to go for the Windows OS because they are much more prevalent and the asshole gets more bang-for-the-buck.
I also really love my desktop Dell Dimension 8259...bought it refurbished and have NEVER had a problem with it. I've had it 4-5 years now. Still going strong.
Have you seen the new Imacs? Really cool!
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=1570F73B&nclm=iMac
http://www.macvirus.org/
The malicious code assholes tend to go for the Windows OS because they are much more prevalent and the asshole gets more bang-for-the-buck.
I also really love my desktop Dell Dimension 8259...bought it refurbished and have NEVER had a problem with it. I've had it 4-5 years now. Still going strong.
Have you seen the new Imacs? Really cool!
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=1570F73B&nclm=iMac
My reality and yours are quite different.
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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Jumpah 0
Check out the Dell 630m...its a decent little machine, and they are selling them cheap now (as low as $699 if you look in small business). Seems they are clearing them out as the dual core processors are in.
My only issue with all manufacturers is the amount of bloatware in the default OS installation. The last Dell we bought we had to reinstall the OS to get it to run as well as we needed it to. Tons of free offers, trial software, and Dell popups.
Macs...I love them too, but you can get two windows-based systems for the price of one Mac. Keep a hot spare going for when the primary crashes
My only issue with all manufacturers is the amount of bloatware in the default OS installation. The last Dell we bought we had to reinstall the OS to get it to run as well as we needed it to. Tons of free offers, trial software, and Dell popups.
Macs...I love them too, but you can get two windows-based systems for the price of one Mac. Keep a hot spare going for when the primary crashes

Um... macs run Microsoft office just fine. I've found it runs much better on my mac than my pc.
kirrz 0
I'm a bit of a computer nerd and I've used both Apples and PCs extensively..
Had an iBook for a few years. It runs seamlessly and is ridiculously user-friendly and very multimedia-oriented.
I had to make the swap to Windows because I have to use certain software for which there is no Mac version (I have an HP pavilion.. it's decent).
When I had the iBook I did try to use the windows emulation software (Virtual PC) but it was totally useless cos it was insanely slow.
I would totally suggest you to go for the Apple that will run both systems! Even though it's true that you have to re-boot every time you want to swap operating systems, it's not really that big of a deal. Think of it as being able to have 2 computers - an Apple and a PC. The only catch is that you can't use both at the same time. So what if you have to reboot - at least you've got them both. And it's not like you're going to need to use them both simultaneously.
I reckon go for the Apple, use OSX as your primary system and just shift to windows when you need to do something the Mac can't do.
Had an iBook for a few years. It runs seamlessly and is ridiculously user-friendly and very multimedia-oriented.
I had to make the swap to Windows because I have to use certain software for which there is no Mac version (I have an HP pavilion.. it's decent).
When I had the iBook I did try to use the windows emulation software (Virtual PC) but it was totally useless cos it was insanely slow.
I would totally suggest you to go for the Apple that will run both systems! Even though it's true that you have to re-boot every time you want to swap operating systems, it's not really that big of a deal. Think of it as being able to have 2 computers - an Apple and a PC. The only catch is that you can't use both at the same time. So what if you have to reboot - at least you've got them both. And it's not like you're going to need to use them both simultaneously.
I reckon go for the Apple, use OSX as your primary system and just shift to windows when you need to do something the Mac can't do.
QuoteIt depends on what you are looking to do whit it. an apple or mac are great if you are going to be doing alot of video with it. IBM types are good if you are looking for compatibility with other mainsteam soft wear.. ie microsoft office.
The really nice thing about apple and mac is that you dont have to worry about viruses. they are immune to them.
Window will just keep taking your money for virus protection....![]()
I'm stuck with a microsoft computer because of the soft ware requirements that we have where i work.
MS Office started out on a Mac. Mac still has the later version, compared to the PC.
I would recommend a Mac, since it offers you the chance to try out OS X. If you don't like it, you can sell it on eBay for close to purchase price, and you can switch back to XP in the interim.
My guess is that if you give OS X an honest chance, you will prefer it over Windows.
If you really like computers, an IBM brand machine running the latest version of Slackware Linux would be a fun toy to play with.
Go to bestbuy.com or compusa.com one of those electronic stores sites and look at the customer reviews, it helps a lot.
Heather
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