25 % increase fuel economy

[namgrunt 0]

if you want to increase your miles per gal. use the following

3 to 4 oz. per 10 gal gas

2 to 3 oz per gal . of diesel

I do it in my dodge ram hemi and now get 22.7 mpg
only got 16.5 mpg before

does not harm engine in any way

it works by making the fuel(liquid) into a gas (vapor)

just do a google search

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[Rebecca 0]

Um, sorry, use what exactly?

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[simplyputsi 0]

I think that new fuel additive that was posted a few days ago. You know the one with that guy filling up the plane with no pants.

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[stitch 0]

Thats what I was wondering?

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[J_Cook 0]

I think he's talking about acetone.

[CSpenceFLY 1]

Thats what I thought.


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[stitch 0]

What?!?Huffing it????

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[jumper03 0]

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I think he's talking about acetone.

if you mean acetone, you better be damn careful with it.

Acetone will eat plastics and rubber. say so long to any gaskets or plastic parts in the fuel system because you'll be replacing them soon.

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[simplyputsi 0]

My guess is water. They actually used to inject a mist of water into the cylinder back in the day. Water does not compress like gas and thus takes up more space in the chamber.

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Acetone will eat plastics and rubber. say so long to any gaskets or plastic parts in the fuel system because you'll be replacing them soon

Not quite.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

[simplyputsi 0]

Nice article.
But why is this not common knowledge? Who is this guy that wrote the article?
He even states in his article that acetone eats rubber and plastic. So why does it not harm any of the engine parts it comes in contact with?

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[J_Cook 0]

It eats common, low-grade rubbers and plastics. High quality plastics, which are in your car, aren't damaged by it. But I'm not a chemist, so I couldn't tell you the exact science behind it.

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Acetone will eat plastics and rubber. say so long to any gaskets or plastic parts in the fuel system because you'll be replacing them soon

Not quite.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

Haven't had a chance to look at the article but we would not use acetone in the lab because of this. I'd suggest a quick test - get a plastic part from the auto part store, drop come acetone on it and see....

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[namgrunt 0]

ACETONE is what you use..sorry brain fart

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[jumper03 0]

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High quality plastics, which are in your car, aren't damaged by it. But I'm not a chemist, so I couldn't tell you the exact science behind it.

I would think that is a big assumption now adays.

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[Thanatos340 1]

Acetone is a solvent (Just like Gasoline), In the concentration mentioned... 2 oz to 10 Gallons (less than 1/4 of 1%) I cant see how you would be worried about damage to parts designed to be in contact with Gasoline. (Although I can definitely see how it may help clean your fuel injectors).

I have used the Acetone Trick to get a car past emissions before.. Worked great. Not sure how well it will actually work for gas mileage.

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I cant see how you would be worried about damage to parts designed to be in contact with Gasoline.

I've seen acetone bore a hole in a plastic pippette tip in no time flat. granted it was pure acetone but still - I think a cheap test is better than betting it won't harm. Its not my truck so I digress....

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[CSpenceFLY 1]

Think of it this way.If you have 10 gals. of water and drop in 2 oz. of acetone do you think you could tell the acetone was in there?Do you think it would damage anything if you put it in the water?


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[simplyputsi 0]

Ok so, discussion in the office is if this really works so well how come it isn't known more. It apparently isn't a that new of an idea. Diving more into the article and links I found

CAUTION: Acetone degrades cheaper plastics. While we would expect that all components used in all automobiles would be of a more durable nature, this may not necessarily be the case. There could be serious problems if a cheap component gave out in the fuel system. Be sure your system is of high quality before trying acetone.

How do I know if my fuel system is cheaply made. It's honda, I would like to think they use good stuff.
However we are talking about 3 ounces to 10 gallons. I would think any "eating" ability of the acetone would be gone at that dilution.
It seems safe, and namgrunt has done it. I just don't want to try this on my car that is approaching 100,000 miles with not one engine problem (knocking on wood) and find out I ruined some part of the fuel system that is hidden deep in the bowels that takes 10 man hours to even reach.

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[yardhippie 0]

fuel pumps, filters, and injectors are the pricey parts.
Most of your MAIN fuel line will be metal if not all, but the return portion (injection, emissions, etc) can be rubber or plastic.
its not just the corrosive attributes of acetone, but also the natural lubrication that comes with the fuel.

In diesel engines especially, the fuel is also a lubricant for the pumps that pressurize them for injection. Remove too much and you have a failure. Same with gasoline. thats why back in the day when we'd run AV gas in our race cars we added a certain quantity of marval mysteryoil to the fuel so we didnt burn a valve.

As emission standers get more strict, and fuel systems more complicated, fuel quality becomes a major concern.

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[jumper03 0]

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Think of it this way.If you have 10 gals. of water and drop in 2 oz. of acetone do you think you could tell the acetone was in there?Do you think it would damage anything if you put it in the water?


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hey - your car/truck - go right ahead!

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I think he's talking about acetone.

Acetone. I tried it in my Ramcharger, and saw no appreciable differance.

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[kelpdiver 2]

> Acetone. I tried it in my Ramcharger, and saw no appreciable differance.

Hardly shocking. The Big3 automakers are selling as many tin cans as they can so they can sell big SUVs and still make their CAFE requirements. If a few ounces of acetone would jack up their mileage 25%, they'd be all over it.

"Questions asked of someone in the petroleum industry regarding ACETONE will often automatically trigger a string of negative reactions and perhaps false assertions. We may have heard them all. The mere mention of this additive represents such a threat to oil profits that you may get fabricated denials against the successful use of acetone in fuels."

Sounds like the old claims of Detroit and the oil industry hiding 100mpg cars. When these too good to be true stories start the conspiracy theory stuff, it is usually a sign.

[billvon 3,118]

>If you have 10 gals. of water and drop in 2 oz. of acetone
>do you think you could tell the acetone was in there?

Probably not. The concentration would be so low that the effects on plastics (and gas mileage) would be unobservable.

[billvon 3,118]

There is, however, a proven way to get a 40% increase in fuel economy:

Fill half your tank with gas, and half with E85, an ethanol based fuel. You'll use half the gasoline to go the same distance. Most cars will have no problem burning a 50/50 mixture; cars are already certified to burn a 10% mixture for pollution reduction.

The other nice thing? At least around here, E85 is 50 cents cheaper than gasoline.