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Wow, reading all these anti drug responses is cool. I must admit part of me wanting to finally smoke weed is because i kinda feel pressured to. It seems that everyone does it and i don't quite fit in cause i don't do it. Nobody has ever said anything mean to me about it, but sitting around while everyone else is getting high makes me feel like an outcast. I guess peer pressure never completley goes away.

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[LouDiamond 1]

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Wow, reading all these anti drug responses is cool. I must admit part of me wanting to finally smoke weed is because i kinda feel pressured to. It seems that everyone does it and i don't quite fit in cause i don't do it. Nobody has ever said anything mean to me about it, but sitting around while everyone else is getting high makes me feel like an outcast. I guess peer pressure never completley goes away.

Think of it in these terms then. If everybody sat around and passed a knife around and stabbed themselves in the leg would youo do the same when the knife got to you? Sorry If I sound like a parent. I always used to get the jumping off a bridge one, looking back now..it's kind of funny considering

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[riddler 0]

XTC, or MDMA, was originally created in the 20s, believe it or not, by the company that eventually merged, changed names, etc into the Merck chemical company. It was created as a diet suppressant, but upon clinical trials they found it caused a lot of "erratic behaviour". It was then shelved until it started resurfacing in the 60s as a recreational drug. But due to a difficult manufacturing process, it didn't become popular until the 80s as a club drug. It's still one of the hardest popular drugs to manufacture. And probably the only reason it is still around is because it's manufactured, very legally, in other countries (mostly European ones), before being exported to the US and other countries.

And next, on the Riddler Learning Channel, we'll explore why he knows so much about a drug he's never used.

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[LouDiamond 1]

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XTC, or MDMA, was originally created in the 20s, believe it or not, by the company that eventually merged, changed names, etc into the Merck chemical company. It was created as a diet suppressant, but upon clinical trials they found it caused a lot of "erratic behaviour". It was then shelved until it started resurfacing in the 60s as a recreational drug. But due to a difficult manufacturing process, it didn't become popular until the 80s as a club drug. It's still one of the hardest popular drugs to manufacture. And probably the only reason it is still around is because it's manufactured, very legally, in other countries (mostly European ones), before being exported to the US and other countries.

And next, on the Riddler Learning Channel, we'll explore why he knows so much about a drug he's never used.

You forgot the most important part, MDMA was brought back into mainstream by therapists seeking to help their patients. Once word got out about the effects and it became abused on the street the DEA declared it a class one drug in the mid 80s.

Also, there is a substantial difference in the MDMA that is used in a clinical setting and that which is commonly used at raves, which 9 out of 10 times is made in a tub of some sort.

Actually TLC ran a special on E last night or the night before. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the effects of even occassional recreational use is detrimental.

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[yardhippie 0]

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Wow, reading all these anti drug responses is cool. I must admit part of me wanting to finally smoke weed is because i kinda feel pressured to. It seems that everyone does it and i don't quite fit in cause i don't do it.

Im not one to jump on the anti-drug bandwagon, but hey if you dont WANT to do it DO NOT. Its like many other events in your life, if you are pressured into doing something you really arent sure about, you could like it or hate it. Do some research, talk to some friends (non biased ones) and decide for yourself... if you feel like you dont fit in... i dont have any good advice but be yourself... the right people will love you for who you are. The wrong ones will try to change you to somthing that they like...

Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD
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Drugs?? DRUGS?? Skydivers use DRUGS?? OMG,I can't believe it --- Skydiver doing DRUGS?? Oh please, tell me it isn't so...

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Yeah, jump tix are expensive enough! Don't blow your money on something else.

[riddler 0]

I have serious doubts you could make X in a tub - if you've ever studied chem, take a look at the pathways sometime - it's a very complicated procedure. I've heard that a lot of X is cut with amphetamines, which would explain why it's so popular with kids that want to dance all night.

LOL - doesn't surprise me that it was brought by by mental health "experts" - I'm pretty sure a lot of those therapists prescribe themselves plenty of the good stuff. Some of their conclusions lead me to think they're pretty high.

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[jfields 0]

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LOL - doesn't surprise me that it was brought by by mental health "experts" - I'm pretty sure a lot of those therapists prescribe themselves plenty of the good stuff. Some of their conclusions lead me to think they're pretty high.

There is a long history of that. Look at Freud. Tons of documentation about various types of shrinks experimenting on both themselves and their patients.

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[Deuce 1]

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"I'm trying to seduce you. Do you mind?"

Misery loves company. Drugs undoubtedly provide escape, and most people need to escape from something. Drink a 6-pack and escape into alcohol intoxication, bongload, couple lines, a few crosstops, smoke a little heroin... It all provides escape.

When a group gets together and does the escape substance of their choice, they usually want company. In a psychological sense, "high" is a place. It is somewhere else from sober, and they want you to join them there. You're cool.

So, if you don't feel like going, don't go. Think of it as a Tractor Pull, or something. If the group that's pressuring you wanted you to go see something you KNEW was really, really stupid (and some people think souped-up tractors pulling sleds with weights on them throught mud pretty stupid) you'd probably have no problem saying 'no'.

When they ask you to join them at the tractor pull, say what you think, and ask what they're doing when they get back.

[AggieDave 6]

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I guess peer pressure never completley goes away

Fuck'em, hang with me in Eloy girl, all I'll do is drink a lot of beer and have a great time, no "drugs" for me!

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[AggieDave 6]

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and some people think souped-up tractors pulling sleds with weights on them throught mud pretty stupid

Not from where I'm from, though...actually tractor pulls are pretty damn cool if you ask me.

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[JJohnson 0]

And what did you do for a living??
JJ

JJ

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[OmriMon 0]

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Having personally walked through many a jungle taking coca labs down I can tell you that if you saw how that shit is made you wouldn't want to stick it up your nose as quick. The same can be said for most of the E being made in Europe and elsewhere. I guess if your into ingesting house hold cleaners and industrial chemicals then it might be appealing to you. Spend your money on skydiving and leave the drugs to the people afraid to skydive.

i'm not talkin from personal experiece but i've seen it happen to a good friend of mine, and i wouldn't wanna c it happen to anybody else

[LouDiamond 1]

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I have serious doubts you could make X in a tub - if you've ever studied chem, take a look at the pathways sometime - it's a very complicated procedure. I've heard that a lot of X is cut with amphetamines, which would explain why it's so popular with kids that want to dance all night.

I didn't mean to imply that the whole process of making E was completed in a tub( I assumed most could figure that out), but a good portion of the chemical process finds itself in make shift mixing containers, of which a common tub or like object is used. They are far from clean or maintained and contribute to a good deal of contamination.

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
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[LouDiamond 1]

I actually get paid for jumping out of aircraft, so the thought of jumping off a bridge doesn't seem so ludacris now.

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
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[JJohnson 0]

No, I meant what did you do that you werew walking through the jungle taking out labs? You one of those "good luck mofos"?

JJ

JJ

"Call me Darth Balls"

[phatcat 0]

Smoked pot once. Didn't do much except close my throat almost completely shut like I was breathing through a straw for about 8 hours. Needless to say I haven't done it since, nor do I have any intention of it. As for the harder stuff, umm, no thanks.

[LouDiamond 1]

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No, I meant what did you do that you werew walking through the jungle taking out labs? You one of those "good luck mofos"?

JJ

I am in the Military. Not sure what you mean by "Good luck Mofos" but I have often been called an advisor if you know what I mean.

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
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[bobsled92 0]

WHIPPETTS!!!??
where the helll...oh yea, that's not illegal.
I was always too afraid of the constant testing done at the Olympic T.C. to really try anything and dishonor my family and my sport.
Just spinn on a chair till you puck then you've cut thru the case from wondering, straight to" Oh GOD I'm sick".

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[Mindcake 0]

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Fuck'em, hang with me in Eloy girl, all I'll do is drink a lot of beer and have a great time, no "drugs" for me!

Not to start anything but Beer is a drug, so is nicotine (if you dont belive me go inhale a cigar).
If the definition of a drug is:

1. something that causes a change in attitude/judgement
2. something that causes a physical change
3. something that causes a people to want to do it again. I.E. it's addictive

then caffine is a drug, sugar is a drug (dont give your kids any for a few hours and see how most act), in fact I think an argument could be made that most skydivers are under the influence, when you jump your own body releases it's own drug cocktail. I am NOT telling people to use illegal drugs, I just want everyone to keep things in perspective.
That being:
1. obviously heroin/cocaine can kill, but so can asprin and caffine, hell nicotine is much more powerful than THC. If you were to injest the same amount of nicotine as the average pot smoker does THC it would kill youin a couple puffs!

2. most drugs have some value and therefor they should not be written off as bad/good by government but rather by people, people making the choice to use/not to use a drug.

P.S. I have not had a drink in 3 years and it has been more than 10 years since my partying days at college (where I did various substances)

Jim

Don´t belive the hype

[riddler 0]

For informational purposes only, here is a home synthesis of MDMA starting from MDA (which itself is hard to make).

http://peyote.com/jonstef/mdma.htm

This is a couple of days worth of work, typically, and requires constant attention. My guess is that most people find it easier to just purchase it overseas (from pharmaceutical companies) and smuggle it in than actually make it.

I've done quantitative labs in college, but I would never attempt something this difficult.

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[shunkka 0]

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I always wondered why 420 was slang for marijuana. Anyone have the inside story on that?

in my country 77 was slang for it
but who cares
if in my bhong is white widow

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[nightjumps 1]

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Wow, reading all these anti drug responses is cool. I must admit part of me wanting to finally smoke weed is because i kinda feel pressured to. It seems that everyone does it and i don't quite fit in cause i don't do it. Nobody has ever said anything mean to me about it, but sitting around while everyone else is getting high makes me feel like an outcast. I guess peer pressure never completley goes away.

Never compromise "Who you are" for "what they do." "They" usually don't know shit from a good grade of peanut butter.