billvon 3,119 #26 May 24, 2006 >the gas motor is worked less hard because of the >electrical subsystem is taking up some slack of work . . . On the HSD (Toyota's hybrid drive, also used by Ford) you get these benefits in terms of longevity: -Less wear on the engine; it often doesn't run -Less thermal stress; the engine is pre-warmed before it is started -Less brake pad wear - about half the braking is regenerative -No transmission to wear out/need fluid changes/need adjustment -More emphasis placed on SW. Not a plus or a minus from a wear point of view, but it does mean that a 'repair' takes a technician with a scan tool 90 seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #27 May 24, 2006 QuoteHave you seen the video? And to think he converted a car that would run on water and drove 100 miles while only using 4 oz. Not to mention, the off gas is vapor (Water). No one else wants to jump over this preposterous result? Sorry man - there's not a chance he generated a net energy result in 4 ounces (1/32nd of a gallon) equilivent to 3-4 gallons of gasoline. Or more bluntly, no chance he generated a net energy result at all. Fusion power might someday do that with water, but so far we've not been able to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #28 May 24, 2006 The commercial application has always been splitting sea water. Unfortunately, the electricity to drive the process has been the hold up. That was the promise of fusion. Cheap electricity as the initial step in this process. The down stream effect was cheap vehicle fuel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #29 May 24, 2006 QuoteYou can't make a string longer by cutting one end off and tying it on the other end. In fact, it just gets shorter. That's the "fixed point" problem. If you cut off one end, you can measure from the remaining one. Cut off both ends and you have a piece of string that has no ends. In other words, an infinitely long string. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #30 May 24, 2006 QuoteNo one else wants to jump over this preposterous result? Wow. 4oz of water in and energy out? Damn! It makes me wonder how much water vapor came out the tailpipe. Maybe more then 4oz! This will solve not just the world's energy problem but also the world's water shortage. Hell, since conservation of mass & energy doesn't seem to apply any more, we could reverse the expansion of the universe. Probably violate speed of light, too. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #31 May 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteNo one else wants to jump over this preposterous result? Wow. 4oz of water in and energy out? Damn! It makes me wonder how much water vapor came out the tailpipe. Maybe more then 4oz! This will solve not just the world's energy problem but also the world's water shortage. Hell, since conservation of mass & energy doesn't seem to apply any more, we could reverse the expansion of the universe. Probably violate speed of light, too. Once we get rid of that pesky ol first law of thermodynamics we'll really be cookin! __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
