rushmc 23 #26 August 24, 2007 Quote Quote I have over a 150 pack job. Just the packing part takes me about 3 to 4 hours. Inspection to close nears 6 hours for me Damn... I thought I was slow! Here's how it goes for me 15 minutes moving furniture out of the way and vaccuming carpet. 20 minutes reviewing instructions and looking for service bulletins. 1 hour or so of inspection (if I don't find anything wrong) 1-2 hours of packing (1 for Javelins, 2 for pretty much anything else). 30 minutes of doing paperwork, sealing the reserve, hooking up the main canopy, lubing cutaway cables, flexing 3 rings, replacing main closing loop, counting tools, moving furniture back, etc... Be nice to your rigger, we do a little more than just a straight reserve I&R. I am not fast and heck, i did not count in moving the furniture, it takes me even longer than I realized"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 August 24, 2007 Quote Quote I have over a 150 pack job. Just the packing part takes me about 3 to 4 hours. Inspection to close nears 6 hours for me Damn... I thought I was slow! Here's how it goes for me 15 minutes moving furniture out of the way and vaccuming carpet. 20 minutes reviewing instructions and looking for service bulletins. 1 hour or so of inspection (if I don't find anything wrong) 1-2 hours of packing (1 for Javelins, 2 for pretty much anything else). 30 minutes of doing paperwork, sealing the reserve, hooking up the main canopy, lubing cutaway cables, flexing 3 rings, replacing main closing loop, counting tools, moving furniture back, etc... Be nice to your rigger, we do a little more than just a straight reserve I&R. By the way, I built a shadow board for the tools. It they are all not there in place at the end, I start looking and hope I do not have to open it up. (which I have not done yet) Here is a story for you on that topic. I had completed a rig a couple of weeks before I started on anther. As always, I verified all my tools and weights were there when finished. I started on the next one and I could not find a 7 lbs packing wieght. I knew I had counted it in but I was not finding it. I was just about to call the owner of the last rig when I decieded to ask my wife if she had seen it. Yes, she said, I have it on top of the cupboard holding that hanger. Well, lets just say she has not touched any of my rigging tools since. I don't know what I may have done had I called the owner of that other rig and told him I had to open his rig up looking for a wieght"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #28 August 25, 2007 Quote Quote This was the same guy who stopped counting his reserve rides at 39, just like Jack Benny. And I'm not kidding. Wow! Just 11 more and under the old rules, he could have got his reserve B-License. 39 reserve rides... was this guy a jumper, like, since the beginning of time, or just a really shitty packer? He was a 60's and 70's jumper. Only made a few in the 80's. IIRC didn't have a whole lot of jumps, 1000 or less. But he used to pack his PC in 5 minutes. He was a really shitty packer. And a rigger so he didn't care. He packed my reserve, at the time one of the prototype SST's, before I knew better. And knew enough not to jump that rig!I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #29 August 28, 2007 I like to not being forced into a situation. Plus I do air out the canopy/ lines etc... for over 24 hours just to be on the safe side... just my own real policy.... So if a jumper comes to me and wants a rush job..gotta have it tommorrow.. I dont pack it.,. that is my chose..... If they did not find the time to get it to me in time I will not place my name on a rush job for no one......... normal turn is 2 days... allows for airing, inspection and repack... Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #30 August 29, 2007 Quote I like to not being forced into a situation. Plus I do air out the canopy/ lines etc... for over 24 hours just to be on the safe side... just my own real policy.... So if a jumper comes to me and wants a rush job..gotta have it tommorrow.. I dont pack it.,. that is my chose..... If they did not find the time to get it to me in time I will not place my name on a rush job for no one......... normal turn is 2 days... allows for airing, inspection and repack... Does this policy hold after use as well? I would look for a new rigger if I had a mal and used my reserve on a Friday and the rigger refused to pack it because he wanted to air it. Edited for grammar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #31 August 29, 2007 Quote 2 weeks for me. But I also send my rig to mike a Chutingstarring loft. I know its a long time but at least I know its done right. Mike? 2 weeks? He's right here and will be in on Thursday. I'll go over and kick his ass for you. I know Mike is one busy boy because he does quality work and it's quite rare for him to take 2 weeks unless there's something else going on with the rig.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 August 29, 2007 Quote Quote I like to not being forced into a situation. Plus I do air out the canopy/ lines etc... for over 24 hours just to be on the safe side... just my own real policy.... So if a jumper comes to me and wants a rush job..gotta have it tommorrow.. I dont pack it.,. that is my chose..... If they did not find the time to get it to me in time I will not place my name on a rush job for no one......... normal turn is 2 days... allows for airing, inspection and repack... Does this policy hold after use as well? I would look for a new rigger if I had a mal and used my reserve on a Friday and the rigger refused to pack it because he wanted to air it. Edited for grammar. Happy hunting then. I don't pack for the money, I pack because I wanted to learn how things worked and, help out friends who jump. At the time I started there were not many around and the ones that were were very busy. Your post is short sighted in my book but I for one would not be insulted if you did not want to wait. But I also believe in many cases you may not get the rig back until after the weekend unless you are around a big DZ."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micduran 0 #33 August 29, 2007 I give my rigger as much notice as I can. If I know I won't be jumping for a week or two or three, I'll let him know that, too. Enough people rush and want quick service. I'm glad to be flexible with time when I can be.Be patient with the faults of others; they have to be patient with yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #34 August 29, 2007 If my rig didn't get packed because the rigger didn't have time, that's one thing; if it didn't get packed because he wanted to hang it up for two days, that's another altogether. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 August 29, 2007 QuoteIf my rig didn't get packed because the rigger didn't have time, that's one thing; if it didn't get packed because he wanted to hang it up for two days, that's another altogether. My point exactly. If that is his/her process then that it was it is. If you don't like it, well, as I said, happy hunting"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #36 August 30, 2007 Quote Quote I like to not being forced into a situation. Plus I do air out the canopy/ lines etc... for over 24 hours just to be on the safe side... just my own real policy.... So if a jumper comes to me and wants a rush job..gotta have it tommorrow.. I dont pack it.,. that is my chose..... If they did not find the time to get it to me in time I will not place my name on a rush job for no one......... normal turn is 2 days... allows for airing, inspection and repack... Does this policy hold after use as well? I would look for a new rigger if I had a mal and used my reserve on a Friday and the rigger refused to pack it because he wanted to air it. Edited for grammar. Yeah... Food for another thread... How many riggers use their reserve and have it packed for the next load?(next load meaning: I didn't have my 2nd rig with me and I was on a load in an hour ....)"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 107 #37 August 30, 2007 Does the turn-around time include the time it takes for a customer to pick up his rig? For example, if a customer says on a Friday evening, "Can I have this tomorrow?" and it's ready the next morning but isn't picked up for a year, would that be 1-day or 1-year turnaround? Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #38 August 30, 2007 i was actually referening to riggs being packed up some 120 or so... sure if you used it its been some time to air out.,... but also knoiwing its been used would give me more attention to the finer parts of an inspection... possible holes tree or other nasty landings, being wet ... wet grass...etcc,,,,,Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #39 August 31, 2007 QuoteDoes the turn-around time include the time it takes for a customer to pick up his rig? For example, if a customer says on a Friday evening, "Can I have this tomorrow?" and it's ready the next morning but isn't picked up for a year, would that be 1-day or 1-year turnaround? MarkThat happened to me, the one year deal. On a couple of occasions at a loft I worked at, the loft attempted to contact the rig owners numerous ways for a long time, then sold the gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g2gjump 0 #40 September 1, 2007 I forgot to mention that I live in montana and most of the time is taken up by shipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
