skinnyshrek 0 #26 July 7, 2006 since when do u know about coporate shit your lucky if you know how to fill your car up with gashttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #27 July 7, 2006 Read Joel on Software on writing specification documents that are actually read. While I don't think his approach is perfect, it definitely does make things easier. As to why developers ignore specs? They're often wrong/out of date/unreadable. Besides, it's much more fun to make it up as you go . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #28 July 7, 2006 QuoteRead Joel on Software on writing specification documents that are actually read. While I don't think his approach is perfect, it definitely does make things easier. Oh, if only I were allowed to exercise any creativity. Alas, my client has been BigBlued and they believe... they have drunk the Kool-Aid... we are following RUP. Hell, for that matter, so is my employer. (reading about the topic would also imply I had any interest in it... but alas, I don't. This... my calling ... not so much the same thing. QuoteAs to why developers ignore specs? They're often wrong/out of date/unreadable. Besides, it's much more fun to make it up as you go . Yes, I know, they think being creative is more fun. Doesn't help that we have a language/cultural barrier working, too. I really must quit my job. Although after a few with my skydiving buddies it doesn't seem so awful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #29 July 7, 2006 QuoteBesides, it's much more fun to make it up as you go Indeed. Real programmers don't read specs or manuals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #30 July 7, 2006 Sorry, skinny...you missed that one...20+ yrs in corporate America....yeah, yeah, I know...I'm sorry to hear that, too. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #31 July 7, 2006 Quick. Someone whip out the bunny with the pancake on its head. Someone always does that when I am frustrated and venting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #32 July 7, 2006 QuoteQuick. Someone whip out the bunny with the pancake on its head. Someone always does that when I am frustrated and venting. how's this?This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #33 July 7, 2006 At least someone is taking the time to write the stuff down I know your pain, at the last place - the glamous role of Lead S/E was to get yelled at by the customer (be it Nissan, DCX or GM), do scheduling, and write the S/W reqs - the last part being the most painful - but in the end it helped alot, even if the S/Es didn't always follow them - at least we had an idea of what the product was supposed to do You should see the games industry - ever try to documenting the requirements for 'fun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
