Andy_Copland 0 #176 June 17, 2006 My God what is going on here. These challenges are so needless, panic tackles Also a two footed challenge catching a heel is bad, but cant be called 100% deliberate, that Italian threw a dangerous elbow that was 110% deliberate1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #177 June 17, 2006 QuoteMy God what is going on here. These challenges are so needless, panic tackles Also a two footed challenge catching a heel is bad, but cant be called 100% deliberate, that Italian threw a dangerous elbow that was 110% deliberate I'm completely disgusted. Italy played a beautiful game against Ghana, and now this. Even given a (questionable) 10 on 9, they couldn't do sh.t in the second half. Pirlo and Zambrotta were the only Italians awake during the second half. What a joke. They'll need a lot of luck against Czech Republic next week if they play the same way... I can imagine Americans that already dislike soccer who gave the game a chance today are even more turned off now...god, what an awful game. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RastaRicanAir 0 #178 June 17, 2006 QuoteThey'll need a lot of luck against Czech Republic next week if they play the same way... F*ck Luck! FORZA ITALIA!!!!! AND U S A !!!! U S A !!! (Take out the other two, and we go through.) Give me a slot in the Round of 16, and I can forget about the Italians' bullsh*t fouls and Opera dives. I mean, that's how they play, right? Holding down the Draw with 9 men? THAT'S American!OrFunV/LocoBoca Rodriguez/Sonic Grieco/Muff Brother #4411 -"and ladies....messin with Robbie is venturing into territory you cant even imagine!-cuz Robbie is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #179 June 17, 2006 QuoteI can imagine Americans that already dislike soccer who gave the game a chance today are even more turned off now Yeah, I found the officiating to be inconsistent and the players to be very good actors. Every time some one was touched they fell down and acted like they broke a femur. That will be the last soccer game I watch for a long time. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RastaRicanAir 0 #180 June 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI can imagine Americans that already dislike soccer who gave the game a chance today are even more turned off now Yeah, I found the officiating to be inconsistent and the players to be very good actors. Every time some one was touched they fell down and acted like they broke a femur. That will be the last soccer game I watch for a long time. I'll give you some time. Ready? GO! ...................O.K. Over it yet? Seriously. That's the way the Italians have played since uhhhhh....EVER. Take all the ME time you need. As long as you're done before NOON EST tomorrow. Australia/Brazil?! Holy sh*t! I'm setting out my chips and dip NOW!OrFunV/LocoBoca Rodriguez/Sonic Grieco/Muff Brother #4411 -"and ladies....messin with Robbie is venturing into territory you cant even imagine!-cuz Robbie is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #181 June 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteI can imagine Americans that already dislike soccer who gave the game a chance today are even more turned off now Yeah, I found the officiating to be inconsistent and the players to be very good actors. Every time some one was touched they fell down and acted like they broke a femur. That will be the last soccer game I watch for a long time. Okay. So McBride took a haymaker elvow to his face, was a bloody mess, and managed to get off the field under his own power to take three stitches at the sideline. Exhibit "A" of American ethos. No less than 4 Italian players were carted off the field on a stretcher. Exhibit "A" of footballer ethos. I watched the game from a bar in Seal Beach, CA. The bar was PACKED with people watching the game, which was nice to see. Most of the people made comments that indicated that they didn't really understand the sport, which was still okay,because they at least showed interest. The ref was a JOKE. The red card on the Italian was justified. I'd even say that the second yellow (and accompanying red card) on Pope was justified. But on Mastroeni? Come on. As half of the bar acted like they were carding a player after every slight contact, I noticed how much a ref giving a card resembles a "seig heil." And that seemed appropriate. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #182 June 18, 2006 I have been looking forward to the Brazil VS Australia game on pure reason of eye candy. Both teams have hottie players and excess of cute bums. Oh and I am glad that Brazil and Australia have started 2nd half w/ a lot more gusto. It's becoming a decent game to watch afterall! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #183 June 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI can imagine Americans that already dislike soccer who gave the game a chance today are even more turned off now Yeah, I found the officiating to be inconsistent and the players to be very good actors. Every time some one was touched they fell down and acted like they broke a femur. That will be the last soccer game I watch for a long time. I'll give you some time. Ready? GO! ...................O.K. Over it yet? Seriously. That's the way the Italians have played since uhhhhh....EVER. Take all the ME time you need. As long as you're done before NOON EST tomorrow. Australia/Brazil?! Holy sh*t! I'm setting out my chips and dip NOW! Italians play that way when they're uninspired, like yesterday. On good days, they play fairly, creatively, and they win -- like vs. Ghana. Unfortunately the 'dive' was invented in Serie A (Italian league), so Italians have the stigma of being divers -- so much so that when Totti was tackled from behind in the penalty box in 2002 vs. Korea and fell (not faking), the ref responded with a (bogus) red card. If you watched Italy in 1982, 1990, 1994, Euro 2000...you'd see that Italy does in fact play some of the best football there is; they have not played like that since "ever," as you said. Regarding getting carried off on the stretcher -- yeah it looks a bit pansy but they're taken off on them for the sake of not potentially aggravating an injury by walking on it; it's a precautionary measure. In the instances yesterday when Italian players were carried off they got nailed hard, and I know at least two of them were collisions with their own teammates, so it's not like they were faking anything for the sake of drawing cards. As far as yesterday's 'theatrics' -- USA was tackling from behind *tons* until Eddie Pope got his second yellow, then the USA cleaned up their act. Given, many times Italy was "falling easy" from those tackles but I didn't really see one "opera dive." Nonetheless, Italy still played for shite. Hopefully they'll get it together against Czech Republic -- they'll have to. One good outcome of yesterday's game at least is that all kinds of American fans will be rooting for Italia in their next game edited to add: Way to to Korea!! What their team lacks in skill they make up for in heart...nice outcome, without any help from the referees great game! Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misaltas 0 #184 June 18, 2006 Soccer newb here... I've got a question about "stoppage" time. Who determines how much time is added at the end of the halves, and how do they do it? I mean, I get that some of it is to cover for injuries, but does it also cover other stoppages too like fouls, out of bounds, etc.? Just from watching the games, it seems fairly arbitrary how much is added and then when exactly the ref actually ends the half/game.Ohne Liebe sind wir nichts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #185 June 19, 2006 QuoteI've got a question about "stoppage" time. Who determines how much time is added at the end of the halves, and how do they do it? I mean, I get that some of it is to cover for injuries, but does it also cover other stoppages too like fouls, out of bounds, etc.? Just from watching the games, it seems fairly arbitrary how much is added and then when exactly the ref actually ends the half/game. Yep, you've pretty much got it. I don't watch much footy so I'm not clear on who decides the amount of stoppage time, but it is pretty arbitrary when the game actually stops. Personally I think the new system used in Rugby is much better - whenever play stops for an injury or for the ref to have long chats with, uh, 'over zealous' players the clock is stopped. That way when the clock reaches 40/80 minutes, next time the ball goes out of play it's all over - no messing about, no wondering when the f**k the whistles going to go.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #186 June 19, 2006 QuoteI've got a question about "stoppage" time. The ref on the field determines all stoppage time.....his watch is the official game clock. He adds time as he deems necessary; for injuries mostly, but other reasons can add time too. I have a question also.......is there no longer an indirect free kick ? I played soccer in high school and college, but that was 20 years ago....I don't think I've heard an indirect free kick referenced in years. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #187 June 19, 2006 Yeah, there still is. There were a few indirects in the Brazil Australia game this morning. The Italy score against USA yesterday was from an indirectI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #188 June 19, 2006 France is soon driving home... Last time they sang "On est dans l'avion...." this time will be "On est dans l'camion..." scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #189 June 19, 2006 QuoteFrance is soon driving home... Last time they sang "On est dans l'avion...." this time will be "On est dans l'camion..." Hey... Watch out for the ban, gruyere boy! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #190 June 19, 2006 French Canadian is not the same as French... Switz is beating Togo... for the moment...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #191 June 19, 2006 0-2 for the moment... 2 minutes To-go... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #192 June 19, 2006 Wanna see the French passport, Monsieur Raclette? And yes, I know your team is winning... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #193 June 19, 2006 QuoteWanna see the French passport, Monsieur Raclette? should I consider this like a menace or a personnal attack ?? Nevertheless 0-2 Le coq peut numéroter ses abattisscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #194 June 19, 2006 What? You dont like raclette? I love it personally! Good game. Now I will be really rooting for Suisse to beat Korea next game. Or Korea to beat Suisse. I dont care, as long as one looses! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #195 June 19, 2006 now I'm for TOGO Go TOGO scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #196 June 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteAllez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! for sale, cheap... the worse ebay sale ever.... clickyscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #197 June 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAllez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! for sale, cheap... the worse ebay sale ever.... clicky what r they selling?7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #198 June 19, 2006 I am soooooooooo going to enjoy Friday! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #199 June 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAllez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! Allez les Bleus! for sale, cheap... the worse ebay sale ever.... clicky what r they selling? The French national team, plus the coach for free. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #200 June 19, 2006 QuoteI am soooooooooo going to enjoy Friday!France-Togo 0-0 Suisse Coree : 1-0scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
