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I had a very determined admirer in HS. I miss him all the time ...He was strange & very unique but he never missed a chance to let me know how beautiful he thought that I was. I do have tiny ears... He always refered to me as his little Elfkin & constantly miss his goofiness. ;)

Just a thought MF42... The nice guys, are the ones we think about & appreciate. The assholes...Are very quickly forgotten. ;)




I'm not sure how to take that. You're either suggesting that I'm a nice guy and not an asshole, and that I should stay that way, or you're suggesting that I'm an asshole and would do better to be a nice guy.:S And of course the truth of the matter is I, like everyone, am both nice guy and asshole at once. The trick is knowing which one to act like at any given moment. That's the hard part.:|

Edit to add: We haven't met, have we?

Matt

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I'm not sure how to take that. You're either suggesting that I'm a nice guy and not an asshole, and that I should stay that way, or you're suggesting that I'm an asshole and would do better to be a nice guy.:S And of course the truth of the matter is I, like everyone, am both nice guy and asshole at once. The trick is knowing which one to act like at any given moment. That's the hard part.:|



I think the real trick is just to be who you are.

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You seem like an exceptional guy to me. Offence was never intended. You busted your ass along with me...You can admit this freely. We are on a similar level physically...We both have the desire for Activity = Exercise. Broken asses slow us down. I just notice our similarities... I just appreciate knowing that someone else can understand my pain. ;)

It was never my intention to imply either...Although, In actuality...Nice guys always finish first. ;)



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I think the real trick is just to be who you are.



The oft-repeated advice, "Just be yourself", has always puzzled me, since anything you do or want to do is inherently a thing that your self does or desires. Without delving too deeply into the pop psychology gobbledygook of identity, free will, and the possible illusory nature of either, let me just toss this question out there in an effort to relate back to the original point of the thread:

Once upon a time, I was deeply in love with a woman. This woman, for reasons known only to her, decided to make me angry. She knew me very well, knew exactly which buttons to push in order to get an angry reaction. She purposefully contrived a situation that pushed all of those buttons at once. In the moment immediately after the button-pushing, I learned a very surprising (to me) fact about myself: I can be tempted to hit a woman. Previous to the button-pushing I had believed that particular impulse was not in me.

But I didn't hit her; I yelled at her and hit a nearby inanimate object instead.

So, the question: Am I that most reprehensible, worthless excuse for a human being, a man who would beat a woman? Or am I a good, decent man who would never do such a thing, who talks through difficulties in a relationship with love, kindness, and wisdom?

If the first is true, then "just being myself" is an extremely bad idea. If the second, then "myself" is a very good person to be.

Perhaps more appropriate advice would be something along the lines of, "Know what is good, and be it."

Matt

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You are great person...Instead of inflicting bodily pain that she conflicted on you, emotionally...In selfishness. You were man enough to punch a wall instead of a very confused woman.

No disagreement here. Chicks...When they are young & stupid, do play mind games looking for a reaction. We do not intentionally do this hurt you...This is a crucial growing part of growing up, this is experience. Kids are stupid.

I feel like shit remembering my mistakes. Fortunately my guardian angel was very tolerant. He has always been there to pick me up when I have fallen, although it has been a very tough road. I hold him in the very highest respect & I will do absolutely anything for him.

We all mistakes...Please don't let a BS childhood mistake, stray you from women.
We are not all bad. Your Juliet is out there...waiting for your ass to heal. ;)

Personal trainer ex, possibly? Give it another shot...At the very least you might get a massage. ;)



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You guys usually get the goal in long run.
The assholes...Are very quickly forgotten...They usually their lives alone.



What if what the decent guys want is a young healthy woman that is neither emotionally scarred or already a parent? Seeing as one of the two is the most common result of too many assholes.

I for one really want to start my own family, as opposed to adopting someone else's. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

The "Nice guys are the ones we end up with" line can be translated to "be patient, we'll knock on your door when we've had our fun".

Edit: Not that I'm a nice guy, I'm really just an asshole:P

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Seriously, W.T.F. mate?

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The "Nice guys are the ones we end up with" line can be translated to "be patient, we'll knock on your door when we've had our fun".



I completely understand how you see it this way. I believe we are all emotionally scarred. If you truly want your own happiness...
I confirm- Be patient & keep your eyes open.

In my situation, I believe, his patience paid off. We have a great relationship. I owe him my life. I look forward to making him breakfast every morning & I kiss his heart every chance I get. My only goal is to see that he is as happy as he can possibly be for the rest of his life.
Without the faith he held in me, our communication & his undying love...I can only imagine where I might be. :P

Hang out...When you truly find it...It IS worth it. ;)



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The "Nice guys are the ones we end up with" line can be translated to "be patient, we'll knock on your door when we've had our fun".



I completely understand how you see it this way. I believe we are all emotionally scarred. If you truly want your own happiness...I will have to confirm... Be patient & keep your eyes open.

In my own situation his patience paid off. We have great relationship. I owe him life. I look forward to making him breakfast every morning & I kiss his heart every chance I get. My goal is to see that he is as happy as he can possibly be, whatever it takes, for the rest of his life.
Without the faith he held in me, our communication & his undying love...I can only imagine where I might be. :P

Hang out...When you truly find it...It IS worth it. ;)



Ewwww, you can kiss his heart? He must be exceptionally scarred :D:P

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Seriously, W.T.F. mate?

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Dude, I worked in the Alameda County Jail for three years, Oakland, Berkeley, Fremont, Dublin.

At visiting, there were tons of gorgeious, clean women coming in to see these thugs. I asked a senior depurty what the deal was and he said:

"Outlaws and stray dogs are what the pretty girls like:

Struth.

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I think the real trick is just to be who you are.



Now that's a bunch of crap! :D

Just people watch in a bar one night. Who's getting the chicks? If you're not acting and dressing like them, the odds are stacked against you (not impossible).

So, you can either A) have no chance with a girl, or B) get her interest, then let her see who you really are after you've got her attention. If she accepts who you are, bingo! If not, then it's her loss, but you at least get laid out of the deal. :D

Think about it, it's evolutionary. Does a peacock always walk around with his fan displayed? Nope, but it gets the females' attention. Once he's found a mate, he relaxes. Most animals have courting rituals, why should we be different? I guarantee you, the male peacock is thinking, 'jeez, I gotta walk around like this, just to get her attention?!'.

Don't hate the player, hate the game! :D;)

Jeff
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A relationship being over is NOT reason to hate the opposite sex...no matter how hard you fall.
I think people need to be more mature with their feelings and keep them in perspective.
Sometimes things just don't work out...people grow apart...have different feelings, etc....
NEXT!
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A relationship being over is NOT reason to hate the opposite sex...



I'll second that. Not all women are bad. Besides, bad relationships make you that much wiser. Look at it as a character building experience! :D

Hey, it happens to all of us. Guy and girl alike. [:/]

Jeff
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A relationship being over is NOT reason to hate the opposite sex...



I'll second that. Not all women are bad. Besides, bad relationships make you that much wiser. Look at it as a character building experience! :D

Hey, it happens to all of us. Guy and girl alike. [:/]

Jeff



I must have ALOT of character.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Just people watch in a bar one night. Who's getting the chicks? If you're not acting and dressing like them, the odds are stacked against you (not impossible).

So, you can either A) have no chance with a girl, or B) get her interest, then let her see who you really are after you've got her attention. If she accepts who you are, bingo! If not, then it's her loss, but you at least get laid out of the deal. [laugh



How about C) Meet people somewhere other than a bar/other pickup scene? My dating success stories have evolved outside of that type of an environment ... I'm much more able to "be myself" ... and it works out much better in the short run and the long run.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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Now that's a bunch of crap!

Just people watch in a bar one night

Do you want to hook up with women who go to bars to hook up?

If you take part in activities that interest you (preferably ones that also involve women), and act in a way that's comfortable to you, then you might get feedback from the women about what they like and don't like as friends. In addition, you'll still be doing something that you enjoy.

And in the long run, you'll decide what you want to change, what you don't, and you'll be comfortable with yourself. And then the women you attract will be ones who like the person you already are, and not the one you might be changeable into.

But you have to hang out where it's fun, and you're not just hunting women.

BTW -- the same thing works for women who are looking for "quality men" and can't seem to find them.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Just people watch in a bar one night. Who's getting the chicks? If you're not acting and dressing like them, the odds are stacked against you (not impossible).



So for you to get the chicks interested, you have to be in drag? You may be going to the wrong bar. :|

I know what you meant, but it's funnier this way. :P
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

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and it works out much better in the short run and the long run.



I haven't been able to distinguish a relationship difference between girls I meet in bars vs. 'other places'. A bar isn't necessarily a pickup scene; not the ones I frequent, anyway.

Girls are girls. No matter where I meet them. I dated a girl that went to church every Sunday, and she was more psycho than 90% of the 'bar girls' I dated. On the contrary, I was in a 5 1/2 year relationship with a girl I met at a bar (almost married her).

Believe it or not, there are 'good' people that enjoy socializing with their friends in a bar. There are 'not good' people that are in church every Sunday, and don't go to bars.

Either way, dating is a competition (game?) among all the single people on the planet... maybe societies with arranged marriages are the way to go?! Unless you draw the short straw... :D

J
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I am willing to concede that; you can meet compatible people everywhere ... my comment was more directed towards the set of expectations about how people are "supposed" to behave in a bar/pickup scene setting. Maybe you're more successful in it ... I've never been very good at it! "Being myself" doesn't seem to appeal to the primary demographic there.:D
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

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