ltdiver 3 #1 August 4, 2006 For those of you who care: They are down to the last few hundred HOV stickers for Hybrid cars. Even now you -may- not get one. Better have another (good) reason for buying the car after that.... http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-carpool,0,5560856.story?coll=ktla-news-1 ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #2 August 4, 2006 I'll get right on that....as soon as I move to California. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #3 August 4, 2006 I thought you meant if you jumped a Silhouette, you could get a HOV sticker."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #4 August 4, 2006 QuoteI'll get right on that....as soon as I move to California. Nah, don't bother...you have your own brown earth and heat just the same as us.... You'll only be trading your hurricanes for our earthquakes. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #5 August 4, 2006 QuoteI thought you meant if you jumped a Silhouette, you could get a HOV sticker. I've got a Firebolt, does that count? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #6 August 4, 2006 Got two hybrids but no HOV stickers. I don't think it's a good idea to give such stickers to hybrid owners. HOV lanes are there to improve traffic flow, not to reward people who buy a certain sort of car (IMO.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #7 August 4, 2006 QuoteGot two hybrids but no HOV stickers. I don't think it's a good idea to give such stickers to hybrid owners. HOV lanes are there to improve traffic flow, not to reward people who buy a certain sort of car (IMO.) Hat's off to you Bill. You are a -true- energy/environmentally conscience human being. Most (of us) need a bit more incentive to get over that particular fence. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 August 4, 2006 QuoteGot two hybrids but no HOV stickers. I don't think it's a good idea to give such stickers to hybrid owners. HOV lanes are there to improve traffic flow, not to reward people who buy a certain sort of car (IMO.) then you should have gotten the stickers to keep two more hybrids out! As a motorcyclist that gets a similar benefit, I can't object to this 2 year experiment that only applies to hybrids getting 45mpg. Of course, my vehicle doesn't require a 20ft parking space. OTOH, the federal standard would allow the Escape at only 33mpg, and that's criminal imo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #9 August 4, 2006 >OTOH, the federal standard would allow the Escape at only 33mpg, >and that's criminal imo. Hence one of the problems. Roads are designed to carry people and freight, and we all pay for them. I think the idea behind HOV lanes is a good one; for every car you see in an HOV lane, at _least_ one car has been removed from the rest of the freeway. One HOV lane effectively gives you the capacity of two extra lanes. But that doesn't work with hybrids. If you can get a sticker to drive solo in those lanes, and a lot of people get them, you remove some of their utility. Traffic goes up in general. I think incentives for hybrids are a good idea, because they will reduce dependence on foreign oil and end up bringing the price of gas down in the long run (or at least slow its rise in price.) The tax deduction/credit they have now is a good way to accomplish this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sockpuppet 0 #10 August 5, 2006 What gets me is everyone thinks 45mpg is some fantastic figure! *WOW* My car get 51 - 53 mpg and its not even a hybrid, its based on 100 year old technology called diesel. Earth shattering I know. I know people that get upto 65mpg in smaller diesels. Maybe I should get a HOV sticker (not that I live in the US) ------ Two of the three voices in my head agree with you. It might actually be unanimous but voice three only speaks Welsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 August 5, 2006 Quote My car get 51 - 53 mpg and its not even a hybrid, its based on 100 year old technology called diesel. Earth shattering I know. I know people that get upto 65mpg in smaller diesels. But it won't meet the same emissions standards that the Prius and Civic hybrids do. HOV isn't just about traffic, but also pollution. The metro and one of the civics in the 90s got 40-50mpg with regular, but people didn't flock to buy them. I'd personally love to see diesels in California, but it doesn't appear possible yet. Maybe this new diesel standard will change this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
