turtlespeed 226 #1 August 8, 2006 . . . tears were coming to my eyes as I watched the destruction of all these majestic trees. Again I find myself changing on the inside concerning the views I had about the environment and environmental issues. And again, a new found respect for what others here have posted before that I had taken for granted and passed over. All five pictures are taken from Glacier Nat'l Park. And to think that the animals below will be homeless. And then I think Maybe Nature is doing what is needed - I just know that it is sad to watch the Earth lose so much of the green stuff. Edit - 90% of the white stuff in #5 is smoke - not clouds.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 August 8, 2006 QuoteAnd then I think Maybe Nature is doing what is needed - I just know that it is sad to watch the Earth lose so much of the green stuff. That's likely exactly what it's doing. Next time you're up in Seattle, I'll have to take you down to Mount St. Helen's so you can see the amazing power of nature to rebuild and regenerate. Just over 25 years later, it's a whole new mountain. It's amazing the power of places like Montana to inspire. I remember having a newfound respect for nature and the environment and our wide open spaces the first time I went to Alaska in 1995. I moved to Seattle in 1997 and I am in awe, every day, at what I can see out my bedroom window (a view of Mt. Rainier), and what I can see when I drive just an hour from my home. People ask me how I can stand the rain up here; I figure it's the price I pay for all the green and majesty. And it's worth every gray day to me."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #3 August 8, 2006 Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soberamprat 0 #4 August 8, 2006 And it seems they are loosing the white stuff from the top of the mountains as well. It makes me sad such a beautiful place is changing right before our eyes. http://www.swoopstudios.com/videos/videos-rex.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #5 August 8, 2006 Can I live with you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #6 August 8, 2006 QuoteCan I live with you? Sure, why not? I've got an extra room. And just think ... a few weeks ago they were all trying to convince me to move to Atlanta. By the way, here's a set of photos of views from my bedroom in various lights and seasons. Not bad, eh? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 August 8, 2006 QuoteAnd it seems they are loosing the white stuff from the top of the mountains as well. It makes me sad such a beautiful place is changing right before our eyes. I assume you did not mean that they were letting it all fall from the mountain . . . rather that the climate is changing . . . yes - it is - I now have more research to do to see if it's a normal flux in the repeating cycles of the earth. Which is what I found when i was looking for that to be the answer. But it will still be just as beautiful as it ever was, just in it's own different way.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 August 8, 2006 there is actually a very good write up on Forest Fires at wikipedia especially the opening section on Prevention: For many decades the policy of the United States Forest Service was to suppress all fires, and this policy was epitomized by the mascot Smokey Bear and was also the basis of parts of the movie Bambi. The policy began to be questioned in the 1960s, when it was realized that no new sequoias had been grown in the redwood forests of California, because fire is an essential part of their life cycle. This produced the policy of controlled burns to reduce underbrush. This clears much of the undergrowth through forest and woodland areas, making travel and hunting much easier while reducing the risk of dangerous high-intensity fires caused by many years of fuel buildup. The previous policy of absolute fire suppression in the United States has resulted in the buildup of fuel in some ecosystems such as dry ponderosa pine forests. However, this concept has been misapplied in a "one-size-fits-all" application to other ecosystems such as California chaparral. Fire suppression in southern California has had very little impact over the past century. The amount of land burned in 6 southern California counties has been relatively unchanged. In fact, fire frequency has been increasing dramatically over the past century in lock step with population growth. Urbanization can also result in fuel buildup and devastating fires, such as those in Los Alamos, New Mexico, East Bay Hills, within the California cities of Oakland and Berkeley between October 19 and 22, 1991, all over Colorado in 2002, and throughout southern California in October 2003. Homes designed without considering the fire prone environment in which they are built have been the primary reason for the catastrophic losses experienced in wildfires.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #9 August 8, 2006 Not bad at all. Winter looks especially nice. Of course anything that's not 90+ looks nice to me right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 August 8, 2006 Add me to your list of Roomie applicants. I don't eat much and I make my own bed.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 August 8, 2006 QuoteAdd me to your list of Roomie applicants. I don't eat much and I make my own bed. I make my bed exactly 1/2 of the time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #12 August 8, 2006 QuoteNot bad at all. Winter looks especially nice. Of course anything that's not 90+ looks nice to me right now. Dont be fooled. Those are the only 8 pictures of Seatle known to men when its not raining. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 August 8, 2006 QuoteAdd me to your list of Roomie applicants. I don't eat much and I make my own bed. FYI, the open bedroom is *not* the one with that view. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #14 August 8, 2006 It looks like a crown fire. Crown fires are GOOD things for the forest. They renew the life in the forest by recycling the trees while leaving the nutrients in the soil. This is part of the natural cycle of the forest. Within a few years the landscape will be dominated by saplings, 15 years down the line, the trees will be maturing and looking like a smaller versioin of what was there before. In 25 years, you won't be able to tell there was a fire there. It can get really bad when these crown fires don't happen. This is usually due to the fact that we humans stop the fires before they run their natural course. Of course we stop them, we can't have them burning down our mountain homes now can we? As the forest goes longer and longer without a fire, the underbrush thickens. More and more fuel is generated that should have burned on a regular cycle. Until one year there is a drought. Now the whole forest is bone dry. And there is lots of fuel to burn. When a fire starts, there is almost nothing we can do to stop it. There is too much fuel. It burns much hotter then a normal crown fire. It consumes everything. Nothing is left...not even the nutrients in the soil. We have had several of these fires in Colorado in recent years. Walking in the burn areas is like walking on the moon. The forest floor has been baked into a crust. Nothing will grow here. Then it rains...everything gets washed away...entire towns included. This forest won't be back to normal for many decades. It may not recover in any of our life times. This is what is sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 August 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteAdd me to your list of Roomie applicants. I don't eat much and I make my own bed. FYI, the open bedroom is *not* the one with that view. He knows. . . The little Slut.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #16 August 8, 2006 Oh good God! Pass me a damn hanky. I'm gonna go hug a tree.BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #17 August 8, 2006 Yep, the northwest and Alaska are absolutely breathtaking in many different ways. I generally let people hang on to their miconceptions about the rain. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #18 August 8, 2006 Next time you're up in Seattle, I'll have to take you down to Mount St. Helen's so you can see the amazing power of nature to rebuild and regenerate. Just over 25 years later, it's a whole new mountain. funny you should mention that, this picture was taken just a couple hours ago. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #19 August 9, 2006 Quote... The little Slut. That's MR. Slut to you, sir! The view I was thinking of is keyhole shaped.... My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #20 August 9, 2006 Quote The view I was thinking of is keyhole shaped.... You're such a dirty old man, Andy!"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
